Lovely

the slow burn <3
ep15 and the romance just started omg
I LOVE IT

applause to us. we were so brave to stick with it

I don't think the wife is necessarily wrong (except for hurting all the maidservants and marrying them off to random men, though they also did that to her maidservant), because she is a victim of the patriarchy too. She was in love with a man she thought was the love of her life, and yet forced to marry some other dude who had just broken off an engagement for political reasons. She's not wrong for wanting to escape that marriage with financial security. I wouldn't even blame her for cheating because she never sworn any loyalty. For all the bad things she's done till now, I'd think her circumstances have shaped her to become such a cruel person – it's not an excuse, but a reason.
However, I also don't think that the ML is wrong for wanting to get rid of her (divorce). He too was forced, though more willing to make it work in the beginning. I don't know if he treats servants better than cattle, yet – we'll have to see.

Haha I was about to say that with this pace you'd think this has 50eps and it turns out it has 47. Close enough.

I just watched ep2 and I swear if something bad happens to her adoptive parents, I'll riot.

I'm shocked I'm thinking this because who am I to reject mpreg ?
But turns out the feminist in me only ever enjoys pregnancy if the person wants to become pregnant. And it seems like Phatsa doesn't want to and is being pressure by multiple people and it's kind of expected of him and he didn't even know a few months ago that pregnancy was even a possibility for him. With better lightning and music this would be a horror movie: (K)Not A Birthing Machine

So, so true.
Also, is there anything the dad could do at this point? He was already bitten, you had like 20 years to prepare and educate your pure omega son so he would not easily fall victim to an alpha and now that it's too late you suddenly step in??? Whether Nakhun is a good guy or not, did the dad not tell the tragic story of Phatsa's mother who had to go back to her abusive alpha because she could physically not stay away and was always suffering?

I think they should compensate us for pilot catfishing and overall disappointment.
The recipe for omegaverse is too easy to make it this boring.

haha thanks I watched it in double speed.

I'm now watching double speed and I don't understand why Phata's dad is arguing again. Is there something they could even do? Either Nakhun takes care of him or Phata essentially suffers forever until he dies, isn't that it? How to protect your omega son, that you left unprotected and uneducated, against the alpha he needs to live now?
At 22:27 laughing because the way he's dressed it seems like Nakhun has such loooong arms
The sons realizing that their mother hates their father, who they hate as well, haha
Wow not one scene with Ongsa and Nakhin. I was robbed.

omg I thought today was the final episode but it's only second to last.
I'm not sure if I can suffer through ep 11 and still watch ep 12 next week.
maybe I should just drop it. but then again I came such a long way.

Well then, Flora has difficulties asking Luke for help (bc he is her boss), but whenever she feels bad Luke has been the first person she seeks out. But she asked him to help with her dog, asked to stay with him for a few days when she had no place, she even asked for little help concerning work if it's like a representation or something.
Still she was the first to want to go public, even though she has much more to lose.
She has problems saying what she thinks, especially when Luke is being mean again, but she still stood her ground this time and calmly asked him what his problem was and argued with him.
When he asked if she could come back to Beijing, she gave a reflected answer that served both him as a bf and as her boss.

I'm not saying Luke didn't show growth in some way, I'm just saying that Flora is not also showing growth in their relationship, especially considering their power imbalance.

We don't know if Luke is struggling with being "emotionally compartmentalized". We've only seen him be jealous of Yan Zhu, because she was walking her dog with him (what she had done plenty of times with Luke too) or because they were hugging while crying. But we do know that Flora would have integrated him more into her life if they weren't a secret, because she was the first one to offer to go public, even get married. How would she not share her day to day with her public bf or with her public husband? And in Tibet we hear her think that it finally feels like a real relationship because they were together in daylight in public and she was happy about it, it's clear that it is something she wants.

Your first comment said that "now [you] hate Tao even more for not introducing Luke to anyone", that strongly implies that you blame for Flora for being close with Yuan Zhu. And that she did not consider her behaviour with him, when she didn't even know there was something to consider. Luke wouldn't have been less insecure even if Yuan Zhu had no feelings.

If Luke is jealous of emotional closeness, and being emotionally compartmentalized, and not being part of her day to day, than he should be just as jealous of Yumi whom Flora spends time with, or Sun Yu who she also lives with, or her landlord whom she lives with and spends time with occasionally.

Compartmentalized because they agreed to be in a secret relationship.
Jealousy is normal, but tantrums are irrational when Luke knew from the beginning who Yuan Zhu was and that he was living with her, and you cannot blame her for emotional closeness with a friend, where nothing romantic ever even happened.
It's clear that Flora is just as tired to be a secret, and if Luke agreed to go public like Flora offered in year four, then she would have integrated him more into her life by now. It's clear in their time in Tibet, where they probably went on daylight dates for the first time.

What growth has Luke shown?

We as the audience knew that Yuan Zhu liked Flora from the moment they moved in with each other. We also know that he never said anything, he knew that she was in a relationship, Flora never felt anything, and that their friendship never crossed any boundaries. Why would you now view their dynamic differently?
It makes no sense, unless you just look for reasons to blame and hate Flora.

That's why "potentially"
Yuan Zhu was a very soft and supportive person. And if he hadn't suffered from his depression or less, he would've likely made a move. Though, Flora would've rejected him because she's just locked in with Luke. But in a world were Luke is just her boss and nothing more, I guess Flora could've been very happy with someone that is her friend and her bf, is nice and supportive towards her ambitions. I view Flora as someone that yearns for emotional comfort the most, that's why she never asks Luke for help but likes it when he says sweet things.

I find it crazy to use Flora's relationship with Yuan Zhu as an excuse for Luke's insecurity/jealousy and behaviour. That was like the purest form of friendship possible. He even knew Flora was in a relationship, there was nothing triggering. (there was much complaining about her walking her dog with Yuan Zhu – like? Is that a boundary some people have? Can you not walk your dog with a friend of the opposite gender?)
Also, what is there to trigger? "Trigger" implies that there was some kind of trauma.

I admit I'm one of those who had only talked about Luke and Flora, but I too was heartbroken. I don't know when a drama had me crying the last time. It was so sad.
And I agree about Yuan Zhu potentially being a better choice.

As hot as he is, may this love never find me.