I had to overcome my hatred of the mother and the awful and varied love rivals so that I could enjoy the leads…
Since the authors of this show clearly read Lighter & Princess or whatever the original story is, I'll try to offer context based on the L&P drama which you also watched: (I don't think I have the stomach to read the novel.)
"the instigator of the leak...he should be in jail not running a wedding business" In L&P the head villain eventually gets arrested for financial crimes without the leads being involved in it. Here the relationships were moved around (this character has a girlfriend instead of L&P's Gao Jian Hong having a wife) so that he gets a reconcilliation with his partner instead of being sent to jail. And because this is the gentle all-ages version, neither of them experiences any serious health issues either.
"I hated that they did a completely pointless long distance thing right at the end. There was no need. It added nothing, it just made me dislike FL." I think this replaces the time the ML is in jail (3 years in the drama, maybe even like 8 years in the novel?) where the FL throws herself into work 'like a spinning top, never stopping' and becomes a famous young executive closer to ML in workplace skills. So basically it's a growth period for her in the original story, and the classic 'proof to the mean mother that they still want to be together/marry after years of separation'. I usually hate when one of the leads is randomly sent away for 1-3 years near the end of a show,
"Why the hell would you pick those two assholes to be your best man and bridesmaid?" Think this is some 'bridesmaids in China are not supposed to be married/divorced or pregnant' thing, and ditto for best men? Maybe the producers wanted those non-lovebirds to not only have a some redemption & forgiveness thing but to get them back together, and then decided against it. I needed to pause the wedding scene and look carefully to even find Qin Yue in it (he's behind the wedding planners). He doesn't perform any best man actions.
It was shaping up to be great, but imo they totally tanked the ending. Last maybe 5 episodes or so seemed off…
"Or the weird roommate with the glasses, who seems like she's building up to a great big resentment-filled cathartic monologue, but at some point in the last third of the drama, they just drop her and we never see or hear about her again."
She eventually starts to respect and help the FL: She helps her with the schoolboy who makes her life difficult and afterwards had a scene each with the FL and Shi Ying where she was no longer a hater. Since it's a Disneyfied bootleg L&P adaptation, everybody gets their redemption arc.
Is it useful to first re-watch Hidden Love, then watch First Frost, or to first watch First Frost and then re-watch Hidden Love, or just watch this on its own as a drama completely unconnected to Hidden Love? (Watched HL one year ago.)
You didn't even get to the Final Boss™ there, whose contradictory motivations and allegiances defy all reason and aren't illuminated for more than three lines of dialogue.
Or how else Young Master..., uh, tries to master his only objective.
Who are the actors? Maybe I could help you figure out if they are a major part of the story or one or two episode…
Dai Gao Zheng has a tiny cameo-ish part (in the first episode or so). Wouldn't take too much time to watch that.
Liu Rui Lin has a quite big part, but I neither liked his acting nor the role much. Definitely overstayed his welcome.
If you like over the top villains and their sometimes comedic antics, you might have a much more positive opinion than I did, and especially enjoy the way he greets his father each time.
Do you remember if you preferred the first or second half of the show?
The things the drama writers added to the novel to make the ML "prove himself" and be less of a second fiddle to the FL just aren't good/interesting, and in the latter part they don't have much time for the titular arc(s).
It's unfortunate that WoL does not have sufficient interesting plot content for its extremely long runtime, and ultimately goes in circles for a decent chunk of the second half. On the plus side, at least the final episode has enough time to wrap everything up in a bow.
The leads are neat enough, but the villains and supporting characters are almost all worse versions of something you've seen in other shows. Later on, repetitive villains take up too much screen time with their boring schemes, to the detriment of the leads' synergistic planning (one of the elements that made the earlier episodes entertaining).
So much of the show is green screen (or rather blue screen) that it really hurts scenes coming over as 'genuine'. The backgrounds of some horse riding close-ups are like car interior scenes with rear projection as seen in ancient movies. There is a lot of CGI as well, and much of it of laughable quality: anything to do with "Wonderland", or any projectiles in combat – whether arrows or catapult-launched rocks – sticks out like an amateurish thumb. I dare you to look up close at a top-down view of the 3D animation of the leads' horses roaming the Leyou Plains without at least a giggle.
Compared to some other drama OSTs handled by the often-amazing Chen Xue Ran, this one is more 'just okay', but definitely not among his best works. Even the song with frequent collaborator Liu Yu Ning is nothing special whatsoever.
I do not appreciate how the fate of Miss Gu turned out. She was not a bad character but she was just misused by…
Prime Minister Gu likely was the most evil character in the show. For all we know he talked Sun Jing into his uprising, leading to the death of most of the ML's family and nation-wide war.*
The proper and just punishment for this, as the show reminds us a few times, is "extermination of the whole clan". Anything less is getting off easy.
So yes, Miss Gu, who plotted her way into the palace and plotted to kill the FL (and was delighted when this murder supposedly succeeded) got off scot-free, other than her last episode insanity.
Of course the writer could have just paired her with Turtle, I mean ML's sidekick General Pei Yuan, to have a simple third couple. Or with the detestable Liu Cheng Feng, to have an evil psycho couple.
P.S.: Even the wife of PM Gu threatened to »sell Qiucui's entire family as slaves« to enforce drugging the ML over her daughter's head. That was only against Gu Wanniang's will because she knew it would backfire, not because she was morally opposed to it.
*: His supposed motivations are a total mess as well, but that is an entirely different topic.
It's quite lazy that over 5-6 years it never changes though.
The first episode of this is really bad, it gets to a more palatable level from the second on or so.
(I don't think I have the stomach to read the novel.)
"the instigator of the leak...he should be in jail not running a wedding business"
In L&P the head villain eventually gets arrested for financial crimes without the leads being involved in it.
Here the relationships were moved around (this character has a girlfriend instead of L&P's Gao Jian Hong having a wife) so that he gets a reconcilliation with his partner instead of being sent to jail. And because this is the gentle all-ages version, neither of them experiences any serious health issues either.
"I hated that they did a completely pointless long distance thing right at the end. There was no need. It added nothing, it just made me dislike FL."
I think this replaces the time the ML is in jail (3 years in the drama, maybe even like 8 years in the novel?) where the FL throws herself into work 'like a spinning top, never stopping' and becomes a famous young executive closer to ML in workplace skills. So basically it's a growth period for her in the original story, and the classic 'proof to the mean mother that they still want to be together/marry after years of separation'.
I usually hate when one of the leads is randomly sent away for 1-3 years near the end of a show,
"Why the hell would you pick those two assholes to be your best man and bridesmaid?"
Think this is some 'bridesmaids in China are not supposed to be married/divorced or pregnant' thing, and ditto for best men? Maybe the producers wanted those non-lovebirds to not only have a some redemption & forgiveness thing but to get them back together, and then decided against it. I needed to pause the wedding scene and look carefully to even find Qin Yue in it (he's behind the wedding planners). He doesn't perform any best man actions.
She eventually starts to respect and help the FL: She helps her with the schoolboy who makes her life difficult and afterwards had a scene each with the FL and Shi Ying where she was no longer a hater.
Since it's a Disneyfied bootleg L&P adaptation, everybody gets their redemption arc.
Seems you dropped both though? :c
(Watched HL one year ago.)
Or how else Young Master..., uh, tries to master his only objective.
Liu Rui Lin has a quite big part, but I neither liked his acting nor the role much. Definitely overstayed his welcome.
If you like over the top villains and their sometimes comedic antics, you might have a much more positive opinion than I did, and especially enjoy the way he greets his father each time.
The leads are neat enough, but the villains and supporting characters are almost all worse versions of something you've seen in other shows. Later on, repetitive villains take up too much screen time with their boring schemes, to the detriment of the leads' synergistic planning (one of the elements that made the earlier episodes entertaining).
So much of the show is green screen (or rather blue screen) that it really hurts scenes coming over as 'genuine'. The backgrounds of some horse riding close-ups are like car interior scenes with rear projection as seen in ancient movies.
There is a lot of CGI as well, and much of it of laughable quality: anything to do with "Wonderland", or any projectiles in combat – whether arrows or catapult-launched rocks – sticks out like an amateurish thumb. I dare you to look up close at a top-down view of the 3D animation of the leads' horses roaming the Leyou Plains without at least a giggle.
Compared to some other drama OSTs handled by the often-amazing Chen Xue Ran, this one is more 'just okay', but definitely not among his best works. Even the song with frequent collaborator Liu Yu Ning is nothing special whatsoever.
Not (much) about misunderstandings, more differences in opinion.
The proper and just punishment for this, as the show reminds us a few times, is "extermination of the whole clan". Anything less is getting off easy.
So yes, Miss Gu, who plotted her way into the palace and plotted to kill the FL (and was delighted when this murder supposedly succeeded) got off scot-free, other than her last episode insanity.
Of course the writer could have just paired her with Turtle, I mean ML's sidekick General Pei Yuan, to have a simple third couple. Or with the detestable Liu Cheng Feng, to have an evil psycho couple.
P.S.: Even the wife of PM Gu threatened to »sell Qiucui's entire family as slaves« to enforce drugging the ML over her daughter's head. That was only against Gu Wanniang's will because she knew it would backfire, not because she was morally opposed to it.
*: His supposed motivations are a total mess as well, but that is an entirely different topic.