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Replying to Imran Oct 3, 2023
Is the Korean version better?
Yes, but the 2021 special continues the story (some new & some old content), and the 2021 movie does too afterwards.
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Replying to Jose Benny Oct 3, 2023
Any changes from the original? Like romance or something?
JP has:
- downscaled romance between SML and girl who gets murdered ("movie tickets")
- downscaled romance between SML and FL
- downscaled potential interest in ML by his female high school friend

- traces of romance between ML and someone in the movie
- a disturbing lack of romance between SML and FL in special & movie
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Replying to superpasta Oct 3, 2023
i watched the korean version just a few months after it aired. BUT I BARELY remember what was happening. what…
In case you end up remembering the original's plot, you can (IMO) start watching at the 2021 special and go on to the 2021 movie.
I found the movie's ending annoying and unsatisfying too :D

The 2018 show has pretty much the same ending, with the aforementioned two continuations (3.5 hours total).
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On Signal Oct 3, 2023
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IMO it would be enough to watch the KR series, then the 2021 JP special, and finally the 2021 JP movie (and skip this 2018 JP show). The 2021 special starts with a summary that might be enough to understand who the actors are.
I didn't watch the Thai / China ones, so I can't say anything about those.

The Lee Jae-han / Oyama Takeshi actor is perhaps a bit better in the JP show (but notably worse in the 2021 special), and the JP Ahn Chi-soo / Iwata Kazuo has his moments. There's a lot more omu-rice in the JP show – actually even too much. Otherwise I found it a lot less captivating than the Korean original. It's a bit like a word by word remake with cheap production values and a condensed story.
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I found this a lot less captivating than the Korean original.
It's a bit like a word by word remake with cheap production values and a condensed story.
IMO it would be enough to watch the KR series, then the 2021 JP special, and finally the 2021 JP movie (and skip this 2018 JP show).

The Lee Jae-han / Oyama Takeshi actor is perhaps a bit better in the JP show (but notably worse in the 2021 special). The JP Ahn Chi-soo / Iwata Kazuo has his moments. And there's more omu-rice in the JP show – actually even too much.
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On Signal Oct 2, 2023
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"Blu-ray version has 5 extended scenes, in other words, 5 scenes which are longer compared to the original version broadcasted on TV. In episode 4 there's a scene which is 16 seconds longer, in episode 7 there's a scene which is 12 seconds longer, in episode 8 there's a scene which is 41 seconds longer, in episode 11 there's a scene which is 36 seconds longer, and in episode 14 there's a scene which is 40 seconds longer."
English subtitles for this extra footage don't really seem to exist.
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Replying to Ashlesha Oct 1, 2023
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Episode 15 and it just struck me that this feels like a time loop. If the calls first start just before the death…
That there is a loop element to it you know from the first episodes, you can conclude it from the very first call, and you know it for sure when SML announces that "the calls will start again" in 1989.
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Replying to pcp Oct 1, 2023
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does this have a proper ending or is it ambiguous??
I'd call it a season 2 cliffhanger.
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Replying to luckz Sep 30, 2023
What happens in that scene?
Not only is it an issue for viewers that there is an unseen phantom queen, but more so that for example in the Netflix translation a million different chicks are titled Queen Something.

For example, the mother of ML / Sado's spouse is often called 'Queen Hong'.
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On The Swordsman Sep 28, 2023
Can't agree with the acting being good here, especially ML.
Only the fight sequences were good.
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Replying to witheringmoonlight Sep 27, 2023
Title The Red Sleeve Spoiler
Tbh the deleted scenes from episode 16/17 should’ve been included in the drama, it would’ve made ppl understand…
What happens in that scene?
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Replying to lovindrama Sep 27, 2023
cuz basically the whole significance of the drama was already mentioned from the start where duk im wants to be…
I don't see how going to the market once a month (and on all other days having very strictly assigned tasks at the penalty of death) means "having your freedom".
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Replying to Sageuk Lover Sep 27, 2023
King taking Deok Im as concubine, Deok Im being a court lady prior to being a concubine, Deok Im and all her children…
I thought the supposed queen was only mentioned a single time, in EP16 or 17?
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Replying to Ms Jackson Sep 27, 2023
Stop at episode 16. Got it 👍
Depends on whether you want a Wikipedia article with some (emotional) bonuses or not.
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Replying to iateapanda Sep 27, 2023
Title The Red Sleeve Spoiler
Really like the start, but it got draggy in the middle. Although I knew FL's reasoning, it still annoyed me how…
What confused you precisely?
The EP17 ending is ML deciding not to "come back to life" and instead stay with FL "in that moment".
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Replying to The Red Sleeve Sep 27, 2023
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King the Land is modern-day "Jun-ho lording over hundreds of maids", thus pretty similar really.

Both have the ML focusing on work & making sweeping changes for the better largely off-screen.

And both shows have his bad drunk acting, in King the Land it just looks worse side by side to better drunk acting.
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Replying to scientiae Sep 24, 2023
One of my biggest problems with K-dramas is how they offer ahistorical portrayals of the Chinese to suit the geopolitical…
Surely you don't expect a client state to portray its controlling/occupying state nicely later on?
Historical K content seems to paint Japan in a much worse light, anyway.
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Replying to 9306151 Sep 24, 2023
Title The Crowned Clown Spoiler
I do think they could've done the last 20 minutes much better, the additional conflict and death seem so unnecessary…
The stupid fight ("dying for my king") is taken from the movie, where it's not as absurd but perhaps still bothersome.
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Replying to Bi_Myself Sep 24, 2023
I think that the Queen Dowager's search for revenge is very justifiable. I don't know why they keep disregarding…
At the very outset of the show it is.
This quickly changes.
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Replying to 9999775 Sep 24, 2023
Title The Crowned Clown Spoiler
I'm not going to lie, this drama started off really great. But it got sooo draggy and had to skip all the romantic…
How the villains could not decide if they want to kill the Mad King or the Clown King made them extremely unconvincing. You can either be angry about the baby-killing, or about a lowborn ruling, but not both.

Killing Lee Guy / Yi Kyu is the silly "if a good character has committed a grave sin, they must die by the end" K-drama law.

The concubine being killed as well as the king/bodyguard being 'killed' is the also-overdone "the good guys might be super smart, but nonetheless they won't take precautions against assassination" that was already in full force with the FL's father.
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