Why would you be disappointed with that though ? Of course, the problem of toxic fandom and toxic money-greedy…
"But yeah, it'd seem a bit off if they've pledged to stand together to face the parents and then just crumble at the first time of hardship at work. "
I disagree. The workplace can be very toxic and difficult to live....Some people feel depressed and stressed because of hard work conditions ( harassment, burn-out, etc.)....I don't think it is just "crumbling". I think you're downplaying this aspect a little...So it will be an important hardship for any couple...
Also the cursed ep.11 break-up will be work-related It is not something you often find in Thai BL...and as I say, why should we feel bother by that ? It is like saying : cursed ep 1 is always setting the scene. It makes no sense for me since a series has to follow some kind of progression. Of course at the beginning you'll have the setting leading then toward the crisis and the conflict at the end. For a couple and a love story, the crisis is of course often a break-up...
Why would you be disappointed with that though ? Of course, the problem of toxic fandom and toxic money-greedy…
But if it happens in episode 11 so what ? Their relationship faces hardship and they grow even more stronger after the conflict...The series shows that...so you have some kind of coherent progression ? Of course you'll find more conflict and tension towards the end as the plot needs to lead to something like a crisis with the resolution as a conclusion (whether the resolution is good or bad). What makes this plot different is that you have many crisis in between : - Gene discovering Nubsib was lying to him - Gene getting into a relationship and the question of coming out - and now the next crisis will be work-related and fandom-related. It is VERY coherent. It follows the growth of Gene (AND Nubsib) as characters : their feelings for each other but also their personal dream. Gene is getting more confident in himself. He has the courage to face his parents. He will need to be strong in order to achieve his dream as a writer and as a lover.
This series gets more disappointing as it proceeds. I still think that episode 1 is miles better than the proceeding…
Of course episode 9 which portrays a vivid and realistic coming out scene, and the drunk scene in episode 4 where Nubsib basically shows why consent is important...All of those are VERY disappointing.... Of course lol
I swear if they break up next episode I will be so disappointed, so far I feel like it hasn't been too formulaic…
Why would you be disappointed with that though ? Of course, the problem of toxic fandom and toxic money-greedy industry etc. will bring some consequences to their love life...otherwise what's the point of this story ?
Well, don't watch it anymore ? But I don't really understand the purpose of your comment.
"The amount of positive reviews baffled me". Why should you be baffled ? Because it is not the worst show ever...I've seen way worse...Sure it has flaws (nothing is perfect) but still very enjoyable to watch (despite the annoying product placements you usually find in Thai series lol). The cinematography is quite beautiful, the acting very decent (sometimes Kao's acting or Tum's acting seem a little awkward but this is still quite watchable), the plot is quite ok (for a BL lol) and some scenes are very emotional and beautifully shot, the chemistry feels very natural and lovely, you have a good message and some social awareness...
Personally speaking, the qualities of the show still outshine its flaws for me...Let's hope it'll be still the case for the two last episodes.
The problem is not liking the show, the problem is being fair with the criticism. And some people here are not fair with this series...and sometimes completely wrong...
Well, don't watch it anymore ? But I don't really understand the purpose of your comment.
But why the need to ask people if you still have to watch the show or not ? I mean...it's only you who can decide ? Sorry but I still don't understand this comment. It makes no sense for me. Also this comment section is not full with positive comments (and since the beginning)...sure they are more positive ones nowadays but you have a good amount of negative and nitpicking ones too...So that's why I'm wondering what you're really trying to achieve there (along with some other reviewers). Maybe you are honest but I'm doubtful...
Can we talk about how the scenes are really beautifully and cleverly shot ? The scene in the staircase, in darkness, foreshadowing what's going to happen during the dinner scene, the framing in the last scenes of episode 9 isolating both Gene and Nubsib : felt like loneliness and pain, with a home/room almost like a jail...and have you seen the hourglass on the shelf at the forefront in Nubsib's room in those last scenes ? Give them time Gene and Nubsib ! This series really pays attention to details...
i was so uncomfortable during the confrontation scene. i felt so.......weird and nervous as if it was happening…
I think it is more complicated for the mothers. It is not only a parallel with BL fangirls. They have sons but also husbands. They are caught between them : if they openly support the sons, they are against their husbands. If they openly support their husbands, they are against their sons. That's why they stay silent. Frankly speaking I feel sad for (almost) everyone. Gene's mother is also a victim. I don't think Gene's father has ever really loved his wife...just see how he refuses her touch at the end...But maybe I'm wrong. So I think the series doesn't really blame anyone, but just show how people are caught up in social conventions. No one is bad or good. But a lot of lives are wasted and destroyed because of this social conformity.
And that's another reason which explains why Gene cannot stand people lying (and that's why he was not overreacting when Nubsib lied to him too before...). If you've seen ep. 9, you'll understand him a lot more. Basically Gene's father has lied to his wife and his family for a long time, for social conformity. This series is GREAT since the beginning for many reasons, despite the flaws ! Because it has a heart and a soul. It has many layers since the beginning, it was clever and ironic since the beginning, it was convincing since the beginning...If you don't see it, that's your problem, not the series' problem...
I loved the drama but there is one thought that made me upset about it The two main characters are killers both…
Yes, they are not good guys for sure (and they are not the only ones). But it seems to me the point of this series was more like finding a way to stop the circle of hate, revenge and blindly obeying without having a conscience (since it leads nowhere), and finding again that part of humanity you have lost along the way. And perhaps find a moment of peace in this crazy world. Do they deserve it ? No, for sure, but well, if you start thinking like that, you'll also fall into the trap of this circle of retaliation and punishment. It's endless.
I'm at ep 29 and this is still very entertaining. But sometimes I feel a little bad : Ke Xing running like a mad man and falling beautifully into Da Wu arms, after getting hit are too funny for me lol
I disagree. The workplace can be very toxic and difficult to live....Some people feel depressed and stressed because of hard work conditions ( harassment, burn-out, etc.)....I don't think it is just "crumbling". I think you're downplaying this aspect a little...So it will be an important hardship for any couple...
Also the cursed ep.11 break-up will be work-related It is not something you often find in Thai BL...and as I say, why should we feel bother by that ? It is like saying : cursed ep 1 is always setting the scene. It makes no sense for me since a series has to follow some kind of progression. Of course at the beginning you'll have the setting leading then toward the crisis and the conflict at the end. For a couple and a love story, the crisis is of course often a break-up...
Also do you think the scenes with the family accepting them and their relationship are also "fillers" ?
- Gene discovering Nubsib was lying to him
- Gene getting into a relationship and the question of coming out
- and now the next crisis will be work-related and fandom-related.
It is VERY coherent. It follows the growth of Gene (AND Nubsib) as characters : their feelings for each other but also their personal dream. Gene is getting more confident in himself. He has the courage to face his parents. He will need to be strong in order to achieve his dream as a writer and as a lover.
Of course lol
I'm recommending this track especially for all of those here who cannot help but be negative. Please, be more positive in your life lol
Personally speaking, the qualities of the show still outshine its flaws for me...Let's hope it'll be still the case for the two last episodes.
The problem is not liking the show, the problem is being fair with the criticism. And some people here are not fair with this series...and sometimes completely wrong...