from the novel, yes. she's a modern woman or more correctly, a woman with a military training background. the novel doesn't explain much but will have tidbits of her previous life memory. so it's time travel and transmigration in the body of ye li.
oh thanks for that. i actually was wondering about her mom's side of family. pity we didn't get to see kids though,…
yeah most novels are long and very rich in characters, esp the build up and growth of the characters. it's a good read if you the time. it would be a soap opera if this was film in multiple seasons like american daytime soap opera.
oh thanks for that. i actually was wondering about her mom's side of family. pity we didn't get to see kids though,…
i read/listen to the audio. the novel storyline and plot is pretty good. this is possibly the only ML that i come across that doesn't like/annoyance of his firstborn son....he also have a fierce unyielding love for FL. when he thought FL died, he was ready to pull the world (at least that part of china) into chaos even if it's at the cost of innocent lives (the citizens of the different ruling regions). when the son was a baby, he was talking to him : your dad/prince will cherish/spoil you if you do not fight me for your mother's love. know your place and you will be the most loved child at the manor.
ML's son caused the demise of prince Li. it's sort of funny and evil of the father and son dual.
oh thanks for that. i actually was wondering about her mom's side of family. pity we didn't get to see kids though,…
FL's maternal side of the family:
great grandfather - the chancellor of the previous dynasty, he killed the king so the city doesn't get slaughter/annihilated. the dynasty was pretty much at its end with the king choosing to not abdicate and rather let the gates break down grandfather. b/c of their actions, the great grandfather kill himself after presenting the king's head to the invading troops. he also left a will to future descendents of the tsui to not take up a political post. since they cannot take political post, they take up on education and teaching at the li shan college.
grandfather - a highly respected scholar for his wisdom and knowledge uncle 1 : married with 3 sons - principle of li shan academy/college
uncle 2 : married with 2 sons - a small post at the censorate bureau (basically a department that takes/process/investigate on the behavior of other court officials, your modern human resources), no power in this position. FL's mom
FL's mom died of sadness/disappointment and neglect from FL's dad.
all the men are bright smart and handsome men. even though they are not politically involved w/ the court (due to great grandfather's will and also to avoid the king's suspicion/wrath), they are very popular and well respected. they all partaked in the imperial exam and got place in the top 3 spots.
ML's paternal side of the family: grandmother - widow who raised and supported ML's father through school father - a poor studios scholar who won a 'jin' shi title from the imperial exams, secretarial post, secretly serves the queen dowager
stepmother; madam wong - FL's father's concubine who he favors, comes from a less educated background. she was elevated to the primary wife after FL's mother dies. once elevated, her children are now the primary kids, not a concubine's level children. father w/ stepmother's kids: older half sister (married to the king as a concubine, zhao yi) younger half sister (stole/seduce the prince Li at the encouragement of father/grandmother, married to prince Li) younger brother - about 12 years old and simply spoiled rotten by the grandmother/mom
concubine zhao - she leaves with the help of FL in the beginning part of the novel due to madam wong's schemes to abort her unborn child younger half brother
paternal side of the family loses power when the dowager queen was kicked out of the political struggles between the king and prince li. relocated to the north west frontier after dynasty (forgot the name) was invaded. they relied on FL to live a simple life. father felt regret with his greediness for power and only seek to live a simple life...but constantly being driving nuts by his mother and wife.
QUESTION because I think I missed this: I get the chinese original title, 莫离 MO LI, means something like "always…
the title doesn't even use the jasmine chinese word... Mo - the ML's last name/family name Li - FL's given name
the drama had another english title but it was changed to the first jasmine...which makes no sense to me, unless i am missing something about the word play?
Truly loved this show. there are many subtle details that would click with second time watcher. both leads have…
i noticed novels with rebelling against a king/ruler or displace them is usually altered. certain them like time traveling or transmigration is not allowed.
modern dramas - can't show smoking or violence (like intentional assault with a weapon), gory.
the censorship media department actually watches the drama and will write out what needs to be change/cut out before it gets permission for broadcasting
even though the drama didn't follow the novel plot at all...it's still pretty good!
if anyone is curious of tidbits from the novel: - ML and FL have 3 kids: son, twins: daughter and son. Older son inherit ML's title and basically started a new dynasty Younger son is the general/commander and help guard the new dynasty Daughter - didn't mention much, pretty much a happy life and enjoying the riches of royalty - ML actually prefer FL not to have kids due to safety, health (death is common among pregnant ladies back then) and simply b/c the baby takes away their couple life - FL is from the future and a modern military army force. the novel have very vague description of her before she became Yeh Li. Novel mentions how she set up military drills/training camps to train her private army/guards. - ML's legs were crippled from the battle that killed his father and brother. king conspired with the northern barbaric w/ giving away the army formation secrets. king was hoping to use outsider to get rid of the mo family/ding wong mansion. b/c of the king's betrayal, the 30k mo army perished along w/ the father and brother. - ML was also suffering from poison (by the king) - King/royal family and court all thought ML will die from his injuries and poison (king) and that the ding wong fu (highest prestige/honor) lineage will die with him. --- what the king wants b/c he doesn't like that ding wong has more influence, military power than the king. - Prince Li and FL 's wedding was granted by the previous king. Dowager Queen dismissed the wedding and bethrothed FL to ML. at the time, FL was rumored to be poorly educated in manners, knowledge and plain looking. King agreed with it b/c he wanted the ML to have a poor match that will be no help to the mansion. Rumors were spread by the stepmother and stepsister. Prince Li also believed FL was of poor character and want to dissolve their marriage agreement. FL stay secluded for 3 years and barely left the manor after her mother died. No one knows much about FL besides the rumors. - ML's white hair (whole head like dong hua dijun from eternal love) came from when he thought FL died. Besides grief, guilt consumed him b/c he couldn't give FL a carefree life. he fell into a coma for 3 days and woke up with a head of silver/white hair. FL helps shoulder ML's responsibilities and fights along side him when they broke away from the current dynasty. - ML's grandfather and king's grandfather are founders of the dynasty. ML's grandfather have the highest honor given by the king and also grant the ML's family (all generations) to avoid paying respect (kneel when in front of royalty) and allow them to bear arms when in the palace. - ML and king's family have the same surname but from a different family lineage. - ML's father and brother was killed in a conspiracy by the king . - ML always think of ways to keep his son away from FL...b/c he doesn't like that FL dotes on son. - ML at one point could proclaim himself king and start a new dynasty but choose not to. To be the first king, one must take concubines (fei) to balance and secure the throne - it's inevitable for a new dynasty. - FL's maternal family is alive (except her mom) and is well loved by them. FL is the only girl from her generation line . ML's mother is the only girl from the family line. B/c of that, FL is doted and loved by her maternal side of the family. FL's paternal family treat her as a nobody and didn't place much love/attention compare to the half sister and brother. - FL's paternal family are still horrible people from start to end.
she's very mature looking to be playing a high school youth!
you cared enough to respond...if you could tell me to stand down, then i could tell you to chill out. what's the point of acting when you can't bring the character out? what's the point of casting if anyone can play anything? so yeah, my opinion is pretty on par with some audience.
she's very mature looking to be playing a high school youth!
due to her mature features, she won't be able to play the youthful high school look. yes, doesn't look the part and that's not convincing to watch. it's more convincing if they have a younger actress play her high school part. people start maturing during/after college years...but when you are a high schooler, you carry a certain youth in your features. it's an opinion, not a death warrant on her as an actress, you need to chill out.
she's very mature looking to be playing a high school youth!
it's not a mindset, it's features that can't be mask as youthful. you said so yourself, everyone looks different at certain ages... MZY is at the age where mature looks just doesn't fly for a youthful character.
This show was really good! Story was great, hardly had to fast forward and while the romances weren't all that,…
Mu Yao is also hell bent on the truth/justice than revenge. she only finally let go when she realized FL lost her parents/family/status 3x (pre comatose life, comatose, and after she woke up from) and went through the torture/anguish 3x.
the lord felt he contributed to FL fate b/c he stand by and watch everything happening without correcting her flaws and ways of thinking.. b/c of his status, he felt she cannot marry into the family and be the main lady of the manor, therefore he enables her unrequitted love and silly acts towards his disciple/brother.
so while she was in a coma, he talks to her and alternately alters the dream state she's in. she doesn't want to wake up to the reality of her state so she was in a coma for almost 2 years. it was the lord's encouragement that finally gave her the strength to break free from her coma. the body guard is her alter ego, a version of her that accepts and loves her unconditionally. she finds comfort and stability which is why she clings to him in her dream/comatose state.
the lord/heir didn't ask the mother for permission to marry her in the end. he pretty much defied her words. the mother gave in to him. he lost her once (came too late to rescue her and she fell into a long coma without ever knowing if she will make it...which is why he's more determine to marry her no matter what.
ML's son caused the demise of prince Li. it's sort of funny and evil of the father and son dual.
great grandfather - the chancellor of the previous dynasty, he killed the king so the city doesn't get slaughter/annihilated. the dynasty was pretty much at its end with the king choosing to not abdicate and rather let the gates break down
grandfather. b/c of their actions, the great grandfather kill himself after presenting the king's head to the invading troops. he also left a will to future descendents of the tsui to not take up a political post. since they cannot take political post, they take up on education and teaching at the li shan college.
grandfather - a highly respected scholar for his wisdom and knowledge
uncle 1 : married with 3 sons
- principle of li shan academy/college
uncle 2 : married with 2 sons
- a small post at the censorate bureau (basically a department that takes/process/investigate on the behavior of other court officials, your modern human resources), no power in this position.
FL's mom
FL's mom died of sadness/disappointment and neglect from FL's dad.
all the men are bright smart and handsome men. even though they are not politically involved w/ the court (due to great grandfather's will and also to avoid the king's suspicion/wrath), they are very popular and well respected. they all partaked in the imperial exam and got place in the top 3 spots.
ML's paternal side of the family:
grandmother - widow who raised and supported ML's father through school
father - a poor studios scholar who won a 'jin' shi title from the imperial exams, secretarial post, secretly serves the queen dowager
stepmother; madam wong - FL's father's concubine who he favors, comes from a less educated background. she was elevated to the primary wife after FL's mother dies. once elevated, her children are now the primary kids, not a concubine's level children.
father w/ stepmother's kids:
older half sister (married to the king as a concubine, zhao yi)
younger half sister (stole/seduce the prince Li at the encouragement of father/grandmother, married to prince Li)
younger brother - about 12 years old and simply spoiled rotten by the grandmother/mom
concubine zhao - she leaves with the help of FL in the beginning part of the novel due to madam wong's schemes to abort her unborn child
younger half brother
paternal side of the family loses power when the dowager queen was kicked out of the political struggles between the king and prince li. relocated to the north west frontier after dynasty (forgot the name) was invaded. they relied on FL to live a simple life. father felt regret with his greediness for power and only seek to live a simple life...but constantly being driving nuts by his mother and wife.
Mo - the ML's last name/family name
Li - FL's given name
the drama had another english title but it was changed to the first jasmine...which makes no sense to me, unless i am missing something about the word play?
modern dramas - can't show smoking or violence (like intentional assault with a weapon), gory.
the censorship media department actually watches the drama and will write out what needs to be change/cut out before it gets permission for broadcasting
if anyone is curious of tidbits from the novel:
- ML and FL have 3 kids: son, twins: daughter and son.
Older son inherit ML's title and basically started a new dynasty
Younger son is the general/commander and help guard the new dynasty
Daughter - didn't mention much, pretty much a happy life and enjoying the riches of royalty
- ML actually prefer FL not to have kids due to safety, health (death is common among pregnant ladies back then) and simply b/c the baby takes away their couple life
- FL is from the future and a modern military army force. the novel have very vague description of her before she became Yeh Li. Novel mentions how she set up military drills/training camps to train her private army/guards.
- ML's legs were crippled from the battle that killed his father and brother. king conspired with the northern barbaric w/ giving away the army formation secrets. king was hoping to use outsider to get rid of the mo family/ding wong mansion. b/c of the king's betrayal, the 30k mo army perished along w/ the father and brother.
- ML was also suffering from poison (by the king)
- King/royal family and court all thought ML will die from his injuries and poison (king) and that the ding wong fu (highest prestige/honor) lineage will die with him. --- what the king wants b/c he doesn't like that ding wong has more influence, military power than the king.
- Prince Li and FL 's wedding was granted by the previous king. Dowager Queen dismissed the wedding and bethrothed FL to ML. at the time, FL was rumored to be poorly educated in manners, knowledge and plain looking. King agreed with it b/c he wanted the ML to have a poor match that will be no help to the mansion. Rumors were spread by the stepmother and stepsister. Prince Li also believed FL was of poor character and want to dissolve their marriage agreement. FL stay secluded for 3 years and barely left the manor after her mother died. No one knows much about FL besides the rumors.
- ML's white hair (whole head like dong hua dijun from eternal love) came from when he thought FL died. Besides grief, guilt consumed him b/c he couldn't give FL a carefree life. he fell into a coma for 3 days and woke up with a head of silver/white hair. FL helps shoulder ML's responsibilities and fights along side him when they broke away from the current dynasty.
- ML's grandfather and king's grandfather are founders of the dynasty. ML's grandfather have the highest honor given by the king and also grant the ML's family (all generations) to avoid paying respect (kneel when in front of royalty) and allow them to bear arms when in the palace.
- ML and king's family have the same surname but from a different family lineage.
- ML's father and brother was killed in a conspiracy by the king .
- ML always think of ways to keep his son away from FL...b/c he doesn't like that FL dotes on son.
- ML at one point could proclaim himself king and start a new dynasty but choose not to. To be the first king, one must take concubines (fei) to balance and secure the throne - it's inevitable for a new dynasty.
- FL's maternal family is alive (except her mom) and is well loved by them. FL is the only girl from her generation line . ML's mother is the only girl from the family line. B/c of that, FL is doted and loved by her maternal side of the family. FL's paternal family treat her as a nobody and didn't place much love/attention compare to the half sister and brother.
- FL's paternal family are still horrible people from start to end.
the lord felt he contributed to FL fate b/c he stand by and watch everything happening without correcting her flaws and ways of thinking.. b/c of his status, he felt she cannot marry into the family and be the main lady of the manor, therefore he enables her unrequitted love and silly acts towards his disciple/brother.
so while she was in a coma, he talks to her and alternately alters the dream state she's in.
she doesn't want to wake up to the reality of her state so she was in a coma for almost 2 years. it was the lord's encouragement that finally gave her the strength to break free from her coma. the body guard is her alter ego, a version of her that accepts and loves her unconditionally. she finds comfort and stability which is why she clings to him in her dream/comatose state.
the lord/heir didn't ask the mother for permission to marry her in the end. he pretty much defied her words. the mother gave in to him. he lost her once (came too late to rescue her and she fell into a long coma without ever knowing if she will make it...which is why he's more determine to marry her no matter what.
i hope we're watching the same drama haha ^___^