I like Wei Shao's character but after reading this I really pity him
After reading the post in X me too felt kinda bad. He also never gave her any choice initially. But if we look at the Manman, her clan, her people whom she lived for till she agreed for the marriage with WS (or rather she schemed), everystep after that she met with suspicion and hatred and traps..... after taking the seal she was send back without marrying. WS agreed to marry just bcoz Liu Yan entered PanYi with Manman and he realised it will be difficult for them... and then her grandfather death, he realised one year of mourning so again PanYi wont be under Wei if they delay it one more year..... After coming to YunJun, she was left outside the main gate for three days in rain... sick and cold... Then mother and the girl made her life difficult... She wasn't given any support or affection from Wei side, but just bcoz she was very clever to plan her every step, every move, she could survive..... she did fall for him, but that didnt make a blind or soft to not to be always sharp and on her toe..... That scene when she went around lighting fire to sulphur... she was thinking of people..... then she hear everyone's slogan kill QM to boose morale...!!!!!! till she slapped him when he saved her... to realising she did something to the leader while standing around his generals.....lol!!!!!!!!!! was so funny...!!!
I was wondering when we were going to hear about that tunnel again. I thought they just forgot about it. Wei Shao…
One thing, it was a damn bad way to break off their first night together....and then to hear this news... how disillusioned he must be..... After listening to her... he is so disheartened, He said she can be eloquent when she want to save YanZhou, so he doesnt give much to her BS now.... but WS still saved her name...!! I am sure he will forgive.... !
I think she does but she also has a duty towards her family. What she is trying to tell him is that her affection…
Interesting..!! Thank you. I couldn't understand the divination part at all. BTW Other than the Grandfather who is a good strategist there...?? Manman 's father?
So much can be lost in translation.. I was just reading in X, someone posted.. the answer Manman gives when asked if she is Wei's or Qiao, and she replied I am both Wei as well as Qiao.. thats what we read in subtitles, but in detail it is, I am Weis wife as well as Qiaos daughter.. which is more profound...!
I think she does but she also has a duty towards her family. What she is trying to tell him is that her affection…
Since you have better grip of this... lets me check with you. I went back and started rewatchin to understand a bit more clearly... realised few things... QMs Grandfather did the first deer hunt to have allies... and Wei Grandfather pledged support if anyone ever attacked Yanzhou. they will stand with them... and all drink on that.. but when Wei was attacked, Grandfather and the family were all geared up for going... but withdrew at the last minute...saying Manman threw the moon rock for divination..... ??? what was that?? Only Manman's father insisted to send troops since they promised to do that...and he said not sending is betrayal. I think grandfather and the children all were big time cowards...! Yes it was his effort building the canal and providing water to Wei.. and other supplies and Wei in return protected them..... other than this I cannot see anything big her grandfather did.... but of course taught her to lot to manipulate, for their land like he told her when said she will marry WS, that if WS is captivated by her... she can achieve many things for Yanzhou....! and now the eldest son is looking around for noble ladies to marry off to diff states to make allies.
I only find her father and brother who seriously want to stand up for Yanzhou...!
XL is indeed portraying this character beautifully, Pure Evil. I must go and search out her other dramas.
I saw her first... in this drama, https://mydramalist.com/61975-meng-xing-chang-an which is a good drama of hers...she was impressive... I went on to check out and realize.. she's been acting since 2012 latest in Legend of Shenli, Even Untamed... she is in
This is the first time I am seeing Xuan Lu in such a vicious role., but always seen her sweet and smart, this show she is a good actress... very versatile...
I like how the ML is treating FL‘s brother. He got him off the hook for the brothel thing and then invited him…
Best scene was when LYL was laying it thick about QMs brother, she walked in to join... and spoiled her scheme at all levels...! the understanding on WS and QM is so good... he knew this is not her brother and went along with her plans.... it was a brilliant scene
I just want to share my thoughts since I cant wait for tonight's eps 🥲 I know some of you hate WY. But he is…
Eventhough he was irritating in the beginning, after seeing the way all WS,QM and Grandmother supported him, and once they revealed the secret of his birth... he has mellowed down, but sadly very smitten with QM.... But the commendable thing is he never behaved or even speak anything bad to her, but we all can see the care he has for her. sad... I just saw the teaser of ep 27 where he leaves the house and goes saying he will never come back... after WS found out about the painting. The thing is WS also love him very much...
That the cousin will be caught admiring the fl and he will be so ashamed that he will leave the Wei clan and go…
Actually... teaser of ep 26&27 shows he saw the painting and burn it and confronted him saying.. have you ever consider me as your brother? Wei Yan says.. its moment of confusion very apologetically... and leaves the house... and grandmother goes after him and falls down... but i saw another clip where he shouts at QM and throws the gift WY gave QM.... I dont think he is angry with QM but with the whole situation...
That the cousin will be caught admiring the fl and he will be so ashamed that he will leave the Wei clan and go…
I finished ep 25 .. and so far its all ok...!! that scene didnt come. From what I know.. the maid who thought Wei Yan painted her, went and told in anger about the painting, when she realised he painted QM, ... and WS will be angry with brother and Manman... but I dont think he will send the brother away....!!
I think she does but she also has a duty towards her family. What she is trying to tell him is that her affection…
Like your take on the story.. but in the second paragraph you said, WS had no right to make her choose... but thats totally contradictory to the Chinese traditions...! what choices were given to any wives... and Actually if you think of WS from childhood he grew up with terrible trauma of his three generation of family being killed bcoz their best friend choice not to send support... and before dying the big brother made him promise not to go to Qiaos... so life was never fair for him.. but one look at each other in the beginning... made both of them changed their mind.....lol!!... Anyway preview of 24 & 25 they kind of pledge to each other.... so thats good...
I think she does but she also has a duty towards her family. What she is trying to tell him is that her affection…
She said in her drunken stuper How can you be so petty bocz you feel I dont love you back. What you wrote is a wish and what I wrote is a regret....! you are here close enough to touch.. whereas I can only send my family wishes from far.... But from what she said before, her family always treated her as a girl who will eventually leave home, so an outsider and she said.. and here also I am an outsider. Only her grandfather had any hopes on her. But no one in her family even visited her till now....! So the excuses she is giving him... is her clever way of wiggling out of a sticky situation.. of getting caught....!! Thats why I feel does she have any love? Manman is very clever... she can talk her way out of any situation...!! I hope... for the drama to end welll... that she will do something to put him at ease... to finally feel she do love him....!!
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But if we look at the Manman, her clan, her people whom she lived for till she agreed for the marriage with WS (or rather she schemed), everystep after that she met with suspicion and hatred and traps..... after taking the seal she was send back without marrying. WS agreed to marry just bcoz Liu Yan entered PanYi with Manman and he realised it will be difficult for them... and then her grandfather death, he realised one year of mourning so again PanYi wont be under Wei if they delay it one more year.....
After coming to YunJun, she was left outside the main gate for three days in rain... sick and cold... Then mother and the girl made her life difficult...
She wasn't given any support or affection from Wei side, but just bcoz she was very clever to plan her every step, every move, she could survive..... she did fall for him, but that didnt make a blind or soft to not to be always sharp and on her toe.....
That scene when she went around lighting fire to sulphur... she was thinking of people..... then she hear everyone's slogan kill QM to boose morale...!!!!!! till she slapped him when he saved her... to realising she did something to the leader while standing around his generals.....lol!!!!!!!!!! was so funny...!!!
bcoz the drama is getting better at every episodes...
So much can be lost in translation.. I was just reading in X, someone posted.. the answer Manman gives when asked if she is Wei's or Qiao, and she replied I am both Wei as well as Qiao.. thats what we read in subtitles, but in detail it is, I am Weis wife as well as Qiaos daughter.. which is more profound...!
Yes it was his effort building the canal and providing water to Wei.. and other supplies and Wei in return protected them..... other than this I cannot see anything big her grandfather did.... but of course taught her to lot to manipulate, for their land like he told her when said she will marry WS, that if WS is captivated by her... she can achieve many things for Yanzhou....! and now the eldest son is looking around for noble ladies to marry off to diff states to make allies.
I only find her father and brother who seriously want to stand up for Yanzhou...!
https://mydramalist.com/61975-meng-xing-chang-an
which is a good drama of hers...she was impressive...
I went on to check out and realize.. she's been acting since 2012
latest in Legend of Shenli, Even Untamed... she is in
I just saw the teaser of ep 27 where he leaves the house and goes saying he will never come back... after WS found out about the painting. The thing is WS also love him very much...
but i saw another clip where he shouts at QM and throws the gift WY gave QM.... I dont think he is angry with QM but with the whole situation...
Anyway preview of 24 & 25 they kind of pledge to each other.... so thats good...
But from what she said before, her family always treated her as a girl who will eventually leave home, so an outsider and she said.. and here also I am an outsider. Only her grandfather had any hopes on her. But no one in her family even visited her till now....!
So the excuses she is giving him... is her clever way of wiggling out of a sticky situation.. of getting caught....!! Thats why I feel does she have any love? Manman is very clever... she can talk her way out of any situation...!!
I hope... for the drama to end welll... that she will do something to put him at ease... to finally feel she do love him....!!