I think one of the main criticisms is that while she spent years studying how to fix his legs and spared no expense…
Well, I thought they were both complex characters, with their own set of traumas, who deserve criticism when they mess up and praise when they do the right thing. But I guess we're out here doing the victim Olympics now, lol. If that's how you want to see it, this girl's father abandoned her and her mother because of the mother's attempt to help MXY's brother. Then her mother and her maid lost their lives for this as well, Ye Li was forced on the mountain, all of the people who became her family there then died and she had to dig their graves, and bury them and then live alone on the mountain for years. If that's the zero sum game you want to play, that is way worse than living in a mansion surrounded by servants and being cared for by the best doctors in the country. And if that's the game you want to play, putting some cream that your employee bought for you, on someones hand and making some promises that you end up breaking, does in no way compare to dedicating years to studying medicine just so that you could heal this one person. And as for him investigating her background, he ordered this way before he found out about the dead maid, back when he didn't trust her, he did not start an investigation out of care or concern for her. And he never went deeper than that, to find out how exactly her maid died or what happened to her. I mean, your wife is hallucinating monkeys and her dead maid, her arms are full of bites, you would imagine you would put at least a little bit some effort into finding out exactly what the hell happened to get her to this mental state. And no, reading some investigative reports that he had ordered done back when he was suspicious of her, and having a 5 minutes conversation with a doctor does not count as proper effort, I'm sorry. He also lied to her himself, they both lied to each other because they had both been swimming in treacherous waters, and had their own traumas . Point is, they are both interesting, imperfect characters, and criticising mistakes that one of them makes, does not mean one has now villified this character into eternity. Everyone makes mistakes. This isn't soccer. We don't have to choose teams and support them no matter what, for ever. It's ok to point out mistakes or flaws in both characters.
I really HATE how no one is seeing things from A’Yao perspective. He literally lost his whole entire family…
I think one of the main criticisms is that while she spent years studying how to fix his legs and spared no expense to help him, he did the bare minimum, even before he knew about the edict. He knew she has bite marks all over her arms, that she hallucinates monkeys and her dead maid, yet made no effort to find out what happened to her, and how her maid died. He just hung around her non stop for a few days like a clingy 15 year old and told her it's ok, she can let go of her maid cause she has him now and he promises he'll never leave her. Then when he finds out about the edict he doesn't even demand a proper explanation. After like 2 phrases from her in which she tells him she was afraid to tell him the truth in case he would send her away, he does exactly that, but not before doing a dumb speech and dramatically burning a piece of paper. So he's afraid she was only with him out of guilt, and so he abandons the girl who had literally told him she has abandonment issues, who was now relying solely on him and who was clearly carrying a lot of trauma herself. Then he writes this letter of divorce in which he now promises he will never change his mind about the divorce, and then goes around and does literally that, 2 days later. The man has the emotional maturity and consistency of a child. So yes, he absolutely deserves criticism. Feeling hurt doesn't give you carte blanche to treat other people like dirt. But if he shows true regret and makes up for his mistakes he also deserves redemption.
not understanding the hate train on this one. is it the best k-drama ever?? absolutely not! while it is somewhat…
It's very strange. Usually people who don't like a drama just don't watch it, and that's that. And you'll usually have some criticism in the comments, and a couple of true haters, but here it's like half of the comments section are just haters. I'm trying to figure out what about this drama triggers people so much, that not only do they continue to hate watch it, but they obsessively comment about it afterwards too.
i don't get the anger..what is soooo bad? is this your first time watching kdramas?
The comment section on this drama is really weird. I've never seen so much targeted and vicious hate. It seems really unwarranted. It's not an offensive drama
Lol, why are you even on this website? According to your list, you hate every show you watch. So maybe you should…
My take is that they don't have anything of value to offer to the world, nothing good going on in their life, so they're trying to pretend like they're doing something good, by leaving these silly, performative comments about rumours they've read in some gossip magazine at some point. And because they're lazy, they can't be bothered to actually do some research and see what's true and what's not.
All the magnificent dramas that follow the guidelines and are domestically appreciated each tend to have less…
I bet you felt quite sophisticated after that little rant :))) While I agree that idol dramas tend to cover lack of good storytelling and acting with beautiful faces, it's quite ridiculous to claim that what is going on in China is not censorship. Just because you happen to agree with the government's opinion, it doesn't mean it's right to stifle other kinds of productions. People should have the right to make dramas with beautiful actors and silly stories. And if there's a market for it, all the more power to them. When the government starts imposing the guidelines for what quality is, you are in trouble, take it from someone who has actually dealt with communism, and these so called "guidelines". And you are incredibly naive if you think that what's going on in this case has anything to do with quality.
Lol, why are you even on this website? According to your list, you hate every show you watch. So maybe you should…
Great, then maybe you can do something useful and go campaign against actual proven rapists instead of harrassing innocent people. You're just making it harder for actual victims to be believed when you falsely accuse and defame innocent people.
Lol, why are you even on this website? According to your list, you hate every show you watch. So maybe you should try a new genre of tv series? Who hurt you, that you would choose to willingly be so miserable?
You're not alone. I've been complaining too. Anyone who cares for good storytelling is up in arms.
The physical abuse bothers me as well, but I have to say, the writers toned it down a lot, from the mess that is the novel. The novel is seriously unhinged from that point of view. She punches him and kicks him on the regular, even when he's recovering from injuries, and he literaly bites her, cause he's upset she doesn't like him. So he bites her shoulder hard enough to draw blood and leave a permanent mark. I keep saying it, thos characters in the novel...if they were a real couple today, they would have the cops called on them on the regular.
I completely agree with you. I liked this drama at first. I really enjoyed the Lin'An slice of life story arc…
I feel like the drama actually toned it down a bit with the superpowers. I read part of the novel, and some of the scenes there are just silly. In the novel she literally hunts down a bear, while all the seasoned warriors run away, and get this, she delivers the final blow with a bamboo spear that she made on the spot, while the bear was chasing her. She lifts weights that none of the men around her can lift. And at the same time she keeps getting described as very skinny and tiny. It's basically Buffy the vampire slayer, except Buffy made sense, cause she had supernatural powers. And in the drama they seem to make her promotions in the army more like part of a political powerplay, in the novel they treat them like she actually earned them. So, at least from my point of view, the screenwriters did the best they could to make her look more realistic without straying from the novel too much.
I have honestly lost interest once i saw them sky rocketing the FL to a general within 6-7 episodes…like come…
Honestly, I feel like they're doing a way better job than the novel on that score. The drama toned it down. In the novel the whole thing gets quite ridiculous. She hunts a bear on her own, with a spear that she makes on the spot while the bear is chasing her, and her whole progression in the army is even more forced there. There are a lot of good elements to the story, but the whole buffy the vampire slayer vibe applied in this scenario is a bit silly. So I guess, the drama tried toeing the line between making it more realistic and still following the novel.
She doesn’t know the ” Rules ” especially palace rule . Where exactly you want her to learn that ? she…
I feel like any person with common sense would have realised that it was improper to walk out in the middle of the reading of the decrees. It's not about not knowing etiquette, she just doesn't abide by any rules of any kind in thelast few episodes.
Like Liu Yuning said, a lot of work goes into making dramas and people complain about having to pay $5 per month…
It's a very specific kind of entitlement to think you can have someone else's work for free, and if you pay for it you're a "corporate shill" to quote one of these lovely people. Personally I would be willing to bet that the majority of these people are either teenagers, or baby adults living in their parents' basement.
So many people dissing the "leaks" It was a gift if anything! Trying to avoid n3tfl1x as much as possible…
How exactly are you supporting the production team and the actors by stealing their work? These dramas cost money to make, and it is the big sites who are willing to pay for the production. If everyone would pirate the content, soon there would be no content made, because no one could afford to make it. What you are doing is shameful, damaging to the series, and not to mention, illegal.
As I said my comment might be attacked so go on I said the main point about the "quality" , if the audience…
Ok, listen, if I want to rate it based on its cinematography and its beautiful visuals, I'll rate it based on that, again, you are not the end all be all of drama ratings. You are just a person, why are you so obsessed with telling other people how they should do things? Also, I don't know what the lead actor said about girls, I haven't seen the exact quote, but honestly, if you're going to go that route, movies with hot babes, cars and explosions are there to attract guys. So this is not a gendered issue, please stop trying to make it one. No one is degrading us, can we please act like adults and not find offense in every little thing?
while i agree the last episodes is a bit meh, u can't say the drama is a low effort content sis, all actors and…
Ok, but this implies that you are the absolute judge of what a drama's true value is. Your opinion is not the end all be all. You have your opinion, and other people have theirs. When you put people's opinions together, you get the collective rating. You might not agree with it but it is what it is. If you want to have a super refined movie critic kind of rating, then there are websites that cater to that, there's no need to get angry simply because other people on this website rate it differently than you.
As I said my comment might be attacked so go on I said the main point about the "quality" , if the audience…
I think there are some valid points in your first comment. However, the delivery was not optimal, and it came accross quite pretentious, hence the strong reaction. You can point out that you think there is a discrepancy between the rating and the overall quality without insulting a whole group of people. And implying that the female audience rates it high just because it has good looking actors is a somewhat silly argument in my opinion. Pretty much all k and cdramas have good looking actors, and yes, that's because women enjoy that. However, most of those dramas don't actually have a very high rating. So, there is something else about this drama that attracts viewers. For me, one of its biggest selling points is the cinematography. I work in the art field, so visuals are my thing, I enjoy the beautiful visuals and lighting, and its rare to see that nowadays even in big budget productions.
And if that's the game you want to play, putting some cream that your employee bought for you, on someones hand and making some promises that you end up breaking, does in no way compare to dedicating years to studying medicine just so that you could heal this one person. And as for him investigating her background, he ordered this way before he found out about the dead maid, back when he didn't trust her, he did not start an investigation out of care or concern for her. And he never went deeper than that, to find out how exactly her maid died or what happened to her. I mean, your wife is hallucinating monkeys and her dead maid, her arms are full of bites, you would imagine you would put at least a little bit some effort into finding out exactly what the hell happened to get her to this mental state. And no, reading some investigative reports that he had ordered done back when he was suspicious of her, and having a 5 minutes conversation with a doctor does not count as proper effort, I'm sorry.
He also lied to her himself, they both lied to each other because they had both been swimming in treacherous waters, and had their own traumas .
Point is, they are both interesting, imperfect characters, and criticising mistakes that one of them makes, does not mean one has now villified this character into eternity. Everyone makes mistakes. This isn't soccer. We don't have to choose teams and support them no matter what, for ever. It's ok to point out mistakes or flaws in both characters.
Then when he finds out about the edict he doesn't even demand a proper explanation. After like 2 phrases from her in which she tells him she was afraid to tell him the truth in case he would send her away, he does exactly that, but not before doing a dumb speech and dramatically burning a piece of paper. So he's afraid she was only with him out of guilt, and so he abandons the girl who had literally told him she has abandonment issues, who was now relying solely on him and who was clearly carrying a lot of trauma herself.
Then he writes this letter of divorce in which he now promises he will never change his mind about the divorce, and then goes around and does literally that, 2 days later. The man has the emotional maturity and consistency of a child. So yes, he absolutely deserves criticism. Feeling hurt doesn't give you carte blanche to treat other people like dirt. But if he shows true regret and makes up for his mistakes he also deserves redemption.
While I agree that idol dramas tend to cover lack of good storytelling and acting with beautiful faces, it's quite ridiculous to claim that what is going on in China is not censorship. Just because you happen to agree with the government's opinion, it doesn't mean it's right to stifle other kinds of productions. People should have the right to make dramas with beautiful actors and silly stories. And if there's a market for it, all the more power to them. When the government starts imposing the guidelines for what quality is, you are in trouble, take it from someone who has actually dealt with communism, and these so called "guidelines". And you are incredibly naive if you think that what's going on in this case has anything to do with quality.
And in the drama they seem to make her promotions in the army more like part of a political powerplay, in the novel they treat them like she actually earned them. So, at least from my point of view, the screenwriters did the best they could to make her look more realistic without straying from the novel too much.
Also, I don't know what the lead actor said about girls, I haven't seen the exact quote, but honestly, if you're going to go that route, movies with hot babes, cars and explosions are there to attract guys. So this is not a gendered issue, please stop trying to make it one. No one is degrading us, can we please act like adults and not find offense in every little thing?
And implying that the female audience rates it high just because it has good looking actors is a somewhat silly argument in my opinion. Pretty much all k and cdramas have good looking actors, and yes, that's because women enjoy that. However, most of those dramas don't actually have a very high rating. So, there is something else about this drama that attracts viewers. For me, one of its biggest selling points is the cinematography. I work in the art field, so visuals are my thing, I enjoy the beautiful visuals and lighting, and its rare to see that nowadays even in big budget productions.