manicmuse

I think you missed some points as well.

First, She didn't waste 9 yrs. She got to be his wife and benefit from his status for 9 yrs. That is what she wanted, right? The issue was his coma gave his mom the opportunity to get rid of her. You keep skipping over the fact that she wanted to stay married to him. She wasn't dumped. The circumstance gave her mother in law fuel to end their marriage. Don't change the story to make a point.

I am also not speaking for cheaters is general I am speaking about this specific story and their specific actions and why I empathize with what lead him to cheat on her specifically. I can also say that if I am in a relationship with someone none of the circumstances in this drama would apply so please stop trying to make it personally connected to me. It was a good reason for HIM so he took it and I understand why and can empathize with his choice to have an affair. If she does not want love, and she just wanted his money, and she still gets his money, then I say it was her mistake in thinking a relationship like that would be sustainable. Again, it's just as selfish as his affair to me. There are no good guys in this scenario for me, I just empathize with his choice more than I can empathize with her, even if she was upfront.

The rest of your point again is not the story in this drama. The point is he was in a coma when they divorced and woke up shocked at the news so how does that turn into him throwing her away. He had sex with someone else. And yes, she has the right to be mad that he did, but that doesn't leave her faultless in why he did in my opinion. She bet on a scenario that most people wouldn't tolerate much less sustain for years.

Any adult would also understand reciprocity and actions leading to consequences. Just because you have a zero-tolerance attitude towards cheaters doesn't mean that affairs don't happen all the time and there are reasons why they happen... and it's not just because the cheater is a bad person. This drama literally made it clear that her lack of love made him turn to this affair. I'm not making that up, it's a plot point. Now she's "learning to love"... and I'm uninterested. That's her character arc so far. You being mad at cheaters for being cheaters doesn't change any of that.

Please keep your responses to me about this drama from this point on, and don't try to "read" into me or teach me about morality. That's my last point.

None of these arguments are making me like her more. It's basically confirms why I don't like her. I also don't find it pragmatic to be self-centered and greedy. Her whole MO was to marry a rich guy for his status, and leave her family behind. He may have broken his "promise" to patiently wait for her to maybe like him back one day, but he stayed with her anyway when he could have left her for the asst full stop! Their relationship is messy but her being "Honest" doesn't leave her faultless in my eyes. She has the right to expect devotion, but it's a foolish expectation with very little reciprocity in the relationship (and no dealing with his mom doesn't count)... and no her being "pretty" doesn't cut it. He's an obsessed fool for going along with this marriage, sure, but once he saw an opportunity to get attention from someone who loved him he took it, and it's hard to blame him for that.

If I almost feel bad for anyone it's Hae Rang, but she's a jerk who deserves what she got too.

Also, don't casually say he could have just divorced her because that actually goes against what Seol Ah really wanted in the first place. Let's also be clear that she had to be forced out of that marriage while he was unconscious and THAT is what finally humbled her and made her less of a b!tch. If he never crashed and she found out about the affair she surely would have been leveraging her way into staying in the relationship regardless, so I don't buy any of this fake "betrayal" motivation. Her only motivation was to not be replaced.

Clearly her ex is obsessed, since he still wants her, but that doesn't make me understand her appeal. At all. I also don't find her character very unique either. She's spent most of this drama sulking and complaining with a few romantic interludes with Tae Rang in between (who also seems to have a thing for problematic women... including his sister). So to have half of this drama be about a gold digger who learns to love is not appealing to me. I want to roll my eyes and fast forward everytime I see her sulking face on the screen.

I think the writer's intention was to make all of the characters to blame for their failed marriage (like she did in "I Have a Lover"), but I'm not feeling it. If she was the main lead I would have dropped this drama long ago. Now I'm kinda struggling thinking about how many episodes of sulking are left.

To me going to an area to meet a rich man taking pics in a compromising position and then lying that your parents are dead all qualify as manipulation. And if their deal was a loveless marriage then it’s hard to argue that she felt betrayed. This whole scenario is dysfunctional and silly to me, but they made it pretty clear that simply showing him love was what tempted him into the affair with his assistant and if she can’t love him and only wants his money and status then she sure ruined it by expecting love and devotion from him.

I don’t get why it’s hubris to expect love from your wife and not hubris to expect your spouse to stay in a loveless relationship with you... and there’s no way that I think she would have accepted a divorce before the affair based the on her actions. She couldn’t get pregnant and the only reason I think she was mad about the affair is because she knew he could replace her.

As the show progresses she becomes less of a b!tch but she treated everyone like crap at some point except her ex mother in law, who is also horrible but she wasn’t wrong about SA’s intentions with her son.

I guess I just don’t see her charm the way you do. I see that she became less self centered and selfish but it took so much undeserved attention to get there. I like the sister much more because she has a dilemma that makes sense and I empathize with why she feels so torn. Seol Ah on the other hand is a character I still can’t really empathize with so I wish she had much less screen time.

I don’t blame him for cheating. His wife manipulated him into marriage because she wanted his money then emotionally manipulated him with some bs about not loving him but maybe one day. I blame him for still chasing her but it’s pretty obvious why he cheated. The fact that she was even shocked and pretended to be hurt made me dislike her more. The only thing he hurt was her ego. He’s an annoying character for different reasons but cheating isn’t one of them.

I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone likes Seol Ah. 65 episodes in and I don't get it. The chef and the ex-husband can both do
and deserve better.

ugh! I'm struggling!

I didn’t like it until episode 2 but yes!

This is at least my 4th time trying to get through this drama. Even with the few twists that have happened so far am I bored. If I’m bored at episode 6 is there a reason to keep watching?

The product placements are more interesting than this drama’s plot! Completing this drama will be a struggle.

Kim Seol Ah is THE WORST!

This drama should be renamed “Mothers and Sisters should mind their business”

I'm in denial that this is over... for now. I feel duped.

Lol!!!!

I’m only on episode 23. It seems like a set up for later episodes but I already see ships I want to sink. I’m not ready to drop it yet though, I’m just frustrated.

Exactly. The set up was so good and then suddenly in “modern” times it looks retro and cheap. And the story became super repetitive. Like they already went over budget.

It started out so good and then once it switched to modern times it got ridiculous! These characters are so frustrating! I guess that's the point but I hate so many of them.

I thought is was great and it's far more than just a love triangle. I think that's an oversimplification. The whole theme is about the importance of going through life with people you genuinely care for you and will have your back (whether as a love interest or "family". Many of the good characters were loyal and supportive while the evil characters knew that their ruthlessness would leave them victorious without a single person they could trust. Yool Mu realized at the end that in order to obtain the throne he would have to give up the fantasy of a loving relationship with Dong Joo. I thought it was really heartbreaking when he let ger go for that reason. Sure there is a lot of silliness in this drama but to me it has way more depth than you give it credt for having.

Am I the only one who's gonna miss Dan Ho aka the murderer with the sexy eyes??!!!

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!!!!