There s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira…
i think you should consider that both was then adults. So its not the same. They dont understand, that our concern is not Kanda, we think about Akira. They reduce him to an object and cant differnce between a Kid/child and an adolescent who is able to give consent. Their problem is that they dont question the rules of their country or accept the rules of other countries and not are willing to consider Akiras nieeds and rights.
From my perspective it is. I read the manga before I watched the show and it didn't feel like grooming to me then.…
Ok i understand, but in their last talk did akiro not say hey i have thougt good for us 2, you also need it to escape. But when kanda apologize, akira insites that he only thining of himself and didnt consider Kandas Feelings at all.
There s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira…
thx for your post, but in fact its useless, they are so full of hate and so ignorant of facts or argument, they will keep insulting and make false accusation.
There s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira…
i defend nothing what is against teh law. You should be careful with your false accusation, cause this is against the law here. and another thing In criminology, it is well known that perpetrators specifically pretend to protect their victims from other perpetrators. But the most people like you are just ignorant and have no interest in protecting Adolescent, you want to protect you sexual moral, your hypocrisy is awful Perhaps you You should take some time to look into why other countries set these age limits and then start giving arguments why you think this limits are set false
From my perspective it is. I read the manga before I watched the show and it didn't feel like grooming to me then.…
Why do you feel so, for me it was just 2 young gays who talked about their problems and then the younger asked the older for helping him. The older should denies it, ok, but which concret thing makes you believe it was grooming?
Are you justifying a 20-22 year old sleeping with a 13-15 year old? Thats predatory and gross. I’m not sure…
Sweetie, if you have no Idea of the laws of civilized countries, you should better keep quiet then showing your Ignorance. In my country they have the right since they become 14 with some limatations since 16 with fewer limitations, so when your county has underdeveloped standards, Then I feel sorry for the young people there.
Actually, you're just parroting things you don't question.The Age limits are dont fit everybody, not everey 18 year old is grown up some are more minors than 16 or 17 old, So the lay must make Compromises, when it said 18 is the frontier between adult and minor.
And you should rewatch the series without your hate, which makes oyu blind and deaf for what happens. Kanada just tells him how he find balance and then akira begging him to teach him to find balance. So it was Akiras Idea, The thing with the secret was just the approval. it is clear, that both want it as secret. Both doesnt want ot come out, Akira dont want, that kanda tells others that Akira is gay and Kanda dont want akira telling his brother Akria is gay.
I quotehe didn’t intend to sleep with a minor then he just wouldn’t have slept with a minor?
So when Akira dont wahtn sleep with an adult then he just wouldnt have slept with an adult?
You see how stupid this is. Again rewatcht the series and listen carefully to the plot without intending to find arguments but open-endedm
Are you justifying a 20-22 year old sleeping with a 13-15 year old? Thats predatory and gross. I’m not sure…
Thats nonsense, the solution wasnt the idea of Kanda it was Akira. and you ignore the Rights of Akira, You missinterpret the whole storyline just because you are so obsessed from thinking a Minor and adult has sex, that it must be grooming, it must be manipulating. The simple fact that Akira talks to him about telling kanata and he said you must not do this is just a talk and help for Akira, He didnt insist he just helped him to find his own discision. Kanda btw is also vulnerable but has no intend of having sex with akira. he seeks his balance in ONS with other adults.
Its your right to think, that a relationsship between a Minor and adult is never ok. but in fact many countries have laws which allows consentual relationsships. So you can refuse it, but when its in the age limits and consentual its not your business.
The Problem of your Opinion is, that you dont accept that adolescent have the right to decide themself Its part of growing up. He needed Kanda more than Kanda needs him. And its sad, that all concentrate of Akira as victim of an invented sexual assault by ignoring, how he suffers because of his sexual orientation and the bullying. you abuse his vulnerable situation only for your own purpose.
There s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira…
I wish you the same, but in fact, what is the use of arguing with you, when you are not able to Substantiate your opinion thoroughly and address counterarguments. Perhaps im wrong but you give me no reason to rethink my positon on the contrary i feel confirmed cause your weak arguing ;)
There s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira…
In Fact in my country ti would be legal and our laws exist for a reason your Country didnt recognize. that the puberty is starting earlier. and the frontal lobe is full developed with 25, so what is your Point?
We think, that also 15 year old has right and needings. Here a link
You must understand that these Laws are made by humans and are a try to protect children on one side and on the other side give them freedeom to find theiir own way through life. So we can discuss if the ages are always well chosen but unfortunatly the most think these laws are like the 10 commandments and are not willing to discuss what is good or false
Our laws here are surely not perfect, they a try to balance protection with the rights so these things are not written in stone
tomopiiro 7 minutes ago @marelio You are aware that when you start arguing semantics when it comes to minors you yourself come off as a pedo, right? Weirdo.
and then immediatly blocked my, so he thougt i would not see it, but you get a message and need just to log out to read the insult.
But in fact the things are otherwise, Cause its often pedos who are overprotective wiht minors cause they dont view them as human beeings and individuals but as object of desire,
I defend the rights of Akira, especialy this show is an example, that young adolescent have a right to explore their sexuality without fear.
Imagine he is feelling guilty after being reject he feels inferior. How do you think Akira would feel if the man he have asekd him for help would become a law suit?
There s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira…
Its more you the part of the problem, have you ever talked to 15 year olds, they are adolescents some more mature, some less. And have vou talked to 19 or 20 Years old, they not realy mature or total grown up, the number 18 for adult is a descision not a biological fact.
The Problem with your view is, that you dont see Akira as an adolescent but just a stupid kid. But he is a human beeing with rights, and this includes to explore his sexuality. Thats why in many Countries it is allowed. Not because we thinking its god, but if it is really free consentz and the age gap is not to big, its not part of your business.
I dont protect Kanda, i protect Akiras right to live in peace and come clear with hiss sexuel orientation and mental health.
In Japan it is in fact illegal for adults to engage in sexual activities with someone who is considered a minor.…
If you have better sources name then. And 15 and 20 depends the age gap on their birthdays. Please dont waste my time, if you are to lazy to think properly :D
To everyone mentioning (or wanting to mention) the obvious topic in the drama about grooming, or other things…
here s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira who begs him, He himself still seeks his balance with one night stands, obviously with mem of same age or older, he is ready to leave, if akira comes to the point not to need him.
so its obvious he have no interest in having sex with a minor.
Perhaps you dont realize when Kids are groomed, because you just loog the Ages and then judging also when there is no grooming. I feel uncomfortable for Akira and his Pain because of that asshole of "friend" in middle school, who took away his joy of living.
And i dont think you are the mayority, you are more the minority who tries to hide the lack of arguments
if only there was no grooming...you know what? even if there was, but it was woven into the plot, it would be…
There s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira who begs him, He himself still seeks his balance with one night stands, obviously with mem of same age or older, he is ready to leave, if akira comes to the point not to need him.
so its obvious he have no interest in having sex with a minor.
I think you referr to some sources, who just say that ghe general age of Consent is raise from 13 to 16. but many sources also say that for 14 or 15 year old is an Excepion when the partner is not 5 years older
Actually, you're just parroting things you don't question.The Age limits are dont fit everybody, not everey 18 year old is grown up some are more minors than 16 or 17 old, So the lay must make Compromises, when it said 18 is the frontier between adult and minor.
And you should rewatch the series without your hate, which makes oyu blind and deaf for what happens. Kanada just tells him how he find balance and then akira begging him to teach him to find balance. So it was Akiras Idea, The thing with the secret was just the approval. it is clear, that both want it as secret. Both doesnt want ot come out, Akira dont want, that kanda tells others that Akira is gay and Kanda dont want akira telling his brother Akria is gay.
I quotehe didn’t intend to sleep with a minor then he just wouldn’t have slept with a minor?
So when Akira dont wahtn sleep with an adult then he just wouldnt have slept with an adult?
You see how stupid this is. Again rewatcht the series and listen carefully to the plot without intending to find arguments but open-endedm
Its your right to think, that a relationsship between a Minor and adult is never ok. but in fact many countries have laws which allows consentual relationsships. So you can refuse it, but when its in the age limits and consentual its not your business.
The Problem of your Opinion is, that you dont accept that adolescent have the right to decide themself Its part of growing up. He needed Kanda more than Kanda needs him. And its sad, that all concentrate of Akira as victim of an invented sexual assault by ignoring, how he suffers because of his sexual orientation and the bullying. you abuse his vulnerable situation only for your own purpose.
We think, that also 15 year old has right and needings. Here a link
https://beauftragte-missbrauch.de/en/themen/recht/criminal-law
You must understand that these Laws are made by humans and are a try to protect children on one side and on the other side give them freedeom to find theiir own way through life. So we can discuss if the ages are always well chosen but unfortunatly the most think these laws are like the 10 commandments and are not willing to discuss what is good or false
Our laws here are surely not perfect, they a try to balance protection with the rights so these things are not written in stone
tomopiiro 7 minutes ago
@marelio You are aware that when you start arguing semantics when it comes to minors you yourself come off as a pedo, right? Weirdo.
and then immediatly blocked my, so he thougt i would not see it, but you get a message and need just to log out to read the insult.
But in fact the things are otherwise, Cause its often pedos who are overprotective wiht minors cause they dont view them as human beeings and individuals but as object of desire,
I defend the rights of Akira, especialy this show is an example, that young adolescent have a right to explore their sexuality without fear.
Imagine he is feelling guilty after being reject he feels inferior. How do you think Akira would feel if the man he have asekd him for help would become a law suit?
The Problem with your view is, that you dont see Akira as an adolescent but just a stupid kid. But he is a human beeing with rights, and this includes to explore his sexuality. Thats why in many Countries it is allowed. Not because we thinking its god, but if it is really free consentz and the age gap is not to big, its not part of your business.
I dont protect Kanda, i protect Akiras right to live in peace and come clear with hiss sexuel orientation and mental health.
so its obvious he have no interest in having sex with a minor.
Perhaps you dont realize when Kids are groomed, because you just loog the Ages and then judging also when there is no grooming. I feel uncomfortable for Akira and his Pain because of that asshole of "friend" in middle school, who took away his joy of living.
And i dont think you are the mayority, you are more the minority who tries to hide the lack of arguments
so its obvious he have no interest in having sex with a minor.
https://globalchildexploitationpolicy.org/legal-summaries/japan
I think you referr to some sources, who just say that ghe general age of Consent is raise from 13 to 16. but many sources also say that for 14 or 15 year old is an Excepion when the partner is not 5 years older