The only thing that held up this drama is amazing acting by ZWY and decent chemistry with the FL. I agree though…
Of course you do! š Great minds think alike, right? At some point, I might just orchestrate a heist to get my hands on her shelved drama, *Night Wanderer*. If the mission impossible actually happens, Iāll be sure to save you a copy š.
As great as JOL2 can be, not everyone is into wuxia+comedy.This drama may have some sloppy writing in character…
You're kindhearted to apologize ā¤ļø, but you didnāt have to. I was just expressing my opinion, and I take no offense as long as everyone stays respectful like you did.
And yeah, it's totally fair to have the same take even if itās rated a 6 on Douban. I mean, I once enjoyed a drama that literally had a 2.5 on Douban. š
The only thing that held up this drama is amazing acting by ZWY and decent chemistry with the FL. I agree though…
I totally get where youāre coming from. I compromise now and then too, watching dramas just because they star actors or actresses I like and miss, even if the show itself isnāt great. š For example, if a new drama starring Ni Ni came out, Iād probably watch it even if it wasnāt doing well. š
That said, it looks like we mostly agree on this dramaāthe story is indeed bland and boring too. I tried to be as patient as possible, but I eventually gave up and started watching at 2x speed, fast-forwarding through some scenes. š
At this point, Iām just begging for something good to come out!
The only thing that held up this drama is amazing acting by ZWY and decent chemistry with the FL. I agree though…
I got notifications about two comments from you, but Iām only seeing one. Not sure if Iām hallucinating or if there was an issue. š¤
Anyway, thatās pretty much how I got scammed. š I saw people celebrating the 8 rating, so I kept watching episode after episode, waiting for the climax and epicness⦠but there was none (and Iām already at episode 32).
As for the actor, Iām not too familiar with him, which is why I questioned whether it was a problem with the original material or his comedic performance. It might be a combination of both! As I mentioned, he did well in serious, intense, and dramatic scenes, but the comedic ones were more of a miss than a hit. Thatās not unheard of; Iāve noticed that many actors excel in either serious or comedic roles but struggle with the other, even internationally.
As great as JOL2 can be, not everyone is into wuxia+comedy.This drama may have some sloppy writing in character…
Not really, the drama just finished airing today, so let's wait and see whether that rating is correct and holds up over time, plenty of dramas, even on MDL, get a rating close to 9 but gradually decline as months go by. Iād be surprised if this one stays at an 8.
That said, this is just my opinionāit wasnāt a great watch for me. But Iām glad others, like yourself, enjoyed it! šā¤
As great as JOL2 can be, not everyone is into wuxia+comedy.This drama may have some sloppy writing in character…
I understand that not everyone is into Wuxia, and JOL wasn't a recommendation; I was simply sharing my experience with historical/Wuxia dramas this year.
As for the "rare 8" you mentioned, there must be a calculator errorāfor me, thereās no way this drama is even a 7 on Douban, let alone an 8. Also, 8s aren't as rare as you think. Just in the last year and the first half of this year, several dramas have scored over 8 on Douban, including: The Long Season (9.4), To the Wonder (8.9), Blossom Shanghai (8.7), Meet Yourself (8.7), Three-Body (8.7), An Ancient Love Song (8.6), Mysterious Lotus Casebook (8.5), The Knockout (8.5), Ripe Town (8.5), Strange Tales of Tang Dynasty II (8.5), Nothing But You (8.2), Fake It Till You Make It (8.2), and Thirteen Years of Dust (8.1).
After waiting forever JOL2 was alright but it really failed to engage me like JOL1 did. Anyway, another great…
I absolutely loved it! ā¤
As for Strange Tales of Tang Dynasty 2, I haven't watched the first season yet, so I couldn't jump straight into season 2 when I saw it airing (Iām assuming theyāre heavily connected!).
Lately we are all so desperate for a great or at least good new drama that we will watch anything, the standards…
Not just desperateāIām practically begging at this point xD. I think Liu Shishi, Yang Yang, Zhao Lusi, and Cheng Yi all have dramas set to release this year, so hopefully, weāll get some great content soon. In the meantime, Iāll try to finish this somehow, and then maybe take a break from C-dramas to watch a few K-dramas.
Aside from *JOL2* released earlier this year, I haven't come across a great new historical/Wuxia drama in 2024āand this one is no exception.
In the first part of the drama, I had to shutdown my brain to accept that the FL forgot everything about herself, yet somehow could do everything else perfectly fine. Their relationship during that phase was nice, but the lazy writing and repetitive scenes quickly became tiresome. For instance, every time the ML was about to confess that he isn't her husband, she'd say something, and he'd decide against it. How many times did that happen? 100? It sure felt like it.
When the truth finally came out, the ML's character took a nosediveāhe became petty and pathetic, honestly unbearable to watch at times. And as for the comedic scenes, I'm puzzled. Was the character written like that in the novel, or is the actor just not good at playing silly and comedic roles? He does well in serious, intense, and dramatic scenes, but in the lighter moments, his facial expressions feel so forced, itās hard to watch.
It's not just the MLāthe other two leads are also poorly developed and frankly, unlikable. This is usually a red flag for me that the writer is likely female (just as some male writers struggle to write convincing female characters) and of course, no disrespect to female writersāthere are many who do an excellent job: *LLTG*, *NLB*, *LBFAD*, *ROTP*... and so on.
I'll continue fast-forwarding just to see how it ends, but my expectations are low.
Thank you for summing this up so eloquently. I couldn't have said it better myself.I literally started watching…
I feel you ā¤ā¤ā¤ Great minds think alike ;)
Also, don't be surprised by some of the replies you see here : The further a society drifts from the truth, the more they will hate those that speak it...
His words are too fancy for an MDL user, he's definitely a botš¤£. Also using same sentences many times
Just when you think you've seen it all, here's someone talking to themselves with two accounts ššš No wonder pharmaceutical companies are thriving these days compared to other businesses.
And by the way, when he says "guys," he's talking to his other personalities. Typical behavior for someone struggling with schizophrenia. Let's all wish him wellāthough honestly, he seems beyond saving at this point.
Goodwill Announcement for people supporting the show šWatch out for the below account as well along with that…
I was busy working, and it seems this bot is out here spreading false narratives about me. Looks like you played yourself, and youāre too clueless to even realize it. I already called you out on what you're trying to say now, and it seems I struck a nerve! Oops. And now you're projecting your own insecurities onto others?
Get verified before you come at me, bot! š
Do I look like someone who cares what NPCs obsessed with mindless conformity think? I couldnāt care less. You're just repeating opinions without even understanding where they come from. You lack principles and original thoughts, your programming constantly updated by your masters. Whatās left of you is just an empty shell, incapable of independent thinking. Thatās why you rely on tools to churn out your soulless repliesājust a bunch of words strung together with no real meaning. Itās honestly pretty embarrassing.
I see you've got your feathers ruffled over a few explicit scenes in a K-Drama, and suddenly, the sky is falling?…
You played yourself, and you are so dumb to even get it I already called you out above! Get verified before you talk me, BOT! š
Do I look like someone who cares about what NPCs obsessed with mindless conformity think? I couldnāt care less. Youāre parroting opinions without even knowing who fed you those ideas. You lack principles and original thoughts, your programming constantly updated by your masters. Whatās left of you is just empty shells, incapable of independent thinking, which is why you rely on tools to generate your soulless replies. All of them are just a lot of words strung together without any real meaning. It's actually quite embarrassing.
Exactly!Watch out before the p*rn addicts come for you and try to tell you what an artistic developement it is…
Do I look like someone who cares about what NPCs obsessed with mindless conformity think? š I couldnāt care less. Theyāre parroting opinions without even knowing who fed them those ideas. They lack principles and original thoughts, their programming constantly updated by their masters. Whatās left of them is just empty shells, incapable of independent thinking, which is why they rely on tools to generate their soulless replies. Like the NPC that was interacting with you hereāif you really pay attention, youāll notice their replies are just a lot of words strung together without any real meaning. It's actually quite embarrassing.
I see you've got your feathers ruffled over a few explicit scenes in a K-Drama, and suddenly, the sky is falling?…
Ah, how refreshing! A self-appointed defender of "evolved storytelling" who seems to think that a sprinkling of explicit scenes is the pinnacle of artistic progress. Bravo! You're absolutely rightāwho needs well-crafted characters and compelling narratives when you can just throw in some cheap thrills to keep the masses entertained? After all, nothing says "sophisticated drama" like reducing complex human relationships to a series of steamy encounters. I must have missed the memo that depth and substance are now overrated.
But letās not stop there. Clearly, the true mark of a superior intellect is the ability to dismiss any critique of this so-called evolution as mere elitism. Because, of course, itās much easier to slap a label on someone who values quality storytelling than to actually engage with the substance of their argument. The idea that storytelling might involve more than just pandering to base instincts? Well, thatās just old-fashioned, isnāt it?
And as for my "nostalgia"āoh, how perceptive of you! Of course, longing for dramas that donāt insult the intelligence of their audience must be a sign that Iām stuck in the past. After all, who wouldnāt want to trade in the emotional resonance of My Mister or the intricate plotting of Signal for a few moments of cheap titillation? Clearly, the future of Korean dramas lies in abandoning everything that made them great in the first place.
So, by all means, enjoy your "broadening horizons." Iām sure the endless parade of shallow, sexed-up dramas will keep you thoroughly entertained. Meanwhile, Iāll be here, sipping my elitist tea, rewatching the classics that donāt need to rely on shock value to tell a story. But hey, different strokes for different folks, right? š
Well, well, well, I knew weād get here eventually š. K-Dramas, one of the last bastions of pure storytelling, are now getting the same VIP treatment thatās ruined Western entertainment. Bit by bit, theyāre gearing up to cater to those fine connoisseurs who canāt get enough of trash TV. Remember when people bailed on Western dramas because they couldnāt stomach the endless parade of senseless garbage? So they flocked to Korean dramas for a taste of actual quality. But donāt worry, the powers that be have a solutionāslowly but surely, theyāll make sure thereās no difference between American and Korean dramas in terms of sheer filth. Welcome, my friends, to the glorious kingdom of garbage.
And the best part? The people cheering this on havenāt the faintest idea whoās shoveling this junk down their throats or why. Theyāre basically NPCs, happy to do as theyāre told, blissfully unaware of the strings being pulled by their puppet masters. Gone are the days when you could sit back and enjoy a masterpiece like *My Mister* (9.4), *Hospital Playlist* (9.5), or *Signal* (9.2) without worrying that your ears might start bleeding from the nonsense. You didnāt have to lower the volume or nervously glance around, hoping no one walks in. But those days? Say your goodbyes, because soon enough it will be all about moaning and banging in your once beloved Korean dramas. Enjoy the ride to mediocrity, folks!
This drama reminds me of Welcome to Samdal-riāthere are a lot of similarities. I liked WTSR, but this one is better. If it keeps going like this, it's going to be one of the top Korean dramas of 2024. ā¤ļø
And yeah, it's totally fair to have the same take even if itās rated a 6 on Douban. I mean, I once enjoyed a drama that literally had a 2.5 on Douban. š
That said, it looks like we mostly agree on this dramaāthe story is indeed bland and boring too. I tried to be as patient as possible, but I eventually gave up and started watching at 2x speed, fast-forwarding through some scenes. š
At this point, Iām just begging for something good to come out!
Anyway, thatās pretty much how I got scammed. š I saw people celebrating the 8 rating, so I kept watching episode after episode, waiting for the climax and epicness⦠but there was none (and Iām already at episode 32).
As for the actor, Iām not too familiar with him, which is why I questioned whether it was a problem with the original material or his comedic performance. It might be a combination of both! As I mentioned, he did well in serious, intense, and dramatic scenes, but the comedic ones were more of a miss than a hit. Thatās not unheard of; Iāve noticed that many actors excel in either serious or comedic roles but struggle with the other, even internationally.
That said, this is just my opinionāit wasnāt a great watch for me. But Iām glad others, like yourself, enjoyed it! šā¤
As for the "rare 8" you mentioned, there must be a calculator errorāfor me, thereās no way this drama is even a 7 on Douban, let alone an 8. Also, 8s aren't as rare as you think. Just in the last year and the first half of this year, several dramas have scored over 8 on Douban, including: The Long Season (9.4), To the Wonder (8.9), Blossom Shanghai (8.7), Meet Yourself (8.7), Three-Body (8.7), An Ancient Love Song (8.6), Mysterious Lotus Casebook (8.5), The Knockout (8.5), Ripe Town (8.5), Strange Tales of Tang Dynasty II (8.5), Nothing But You (8.2), Fake It Till You Make It (8.2), and Thirteen Years of Dust (8.1).
As for Strange Tales of Tang Dynasty 2, I haven't watched the first season yet, so I couldn't jump straight into season 2 when I saw it airing (Iām assuming theyāre heavily connected!).
I think Liu Shishi, Yang Yang, Zhao Lusi, and Cheng Yi all have dramas set to release this year, so hopefully, weāll get some great content soon. In the meantime, Iāll try to finish this somehow, and then maybe take a break from C-dramas to watch a few K-dramas.
In the first part of the drama, I had to shutdown my brain to accept that the FL forgot everything about herself, yet somehow could do everything else perfectly fine. Their relationship during that phase was nice, but the lazy writing and repetitive scenes quickly became tiresome. For instance, every time the ML was about to confess that he isn't her husband, she'd say something, and he'd decide against it. How many times did that happen? 100? It sure felt like it.
When the truth finally came out, the ML's character took a nosediveāhe became petty and pathetic, honestly unbearable to watch at times. And as for the comedic scenes, I'm puzzled. Was the character written like that in the novel, or is the actor just not good at playing silly and comedic roles? He does well in serious, intense, and dramatic scenes, but in the lighter moments, his facial expressions feel so forced, itās hard to watch.
It's not just the MLāthe other two leads are also poorly developed and frankly, unlikable. This is usually a red flag for me that the writer is likely female (just as some male writers struggle to write convincing female characters) and of course, no disrespect to female writersāthere are many who do an excellent job: *LLTG*, *NLB*, *LBFAD*, *ROTP*... and so on.
I'll continue fast-forwarding just to see how it ends, but my expectations are low.
Great minds think alike ;)
Also, don't be surprised by some of the replies you see here :
The further a society drifts from the truth,
the more they will hate those that speak it...
https://i.imgur.com/BcZJ0JQ.png
And by the way, when he says "guys," he's talking to his other personalities. Typical behavior for someone struggling with schizophrenia. Let's all wish him wellāthough honestly, he seems beyond saving at this point.
Get verified before you come at me, bot! š
Do I look like someone who cares what NPCs obsessed with mindless conformity think? I couldnāt care less. You're just repeating opinions without even understanding where they come from. You lack principles and original thoughts, your programming constantly updated by your masters. Whatās left of you is just an empty shell, incapable of independent thinking. Thatās why you rely on tools to churn out your soulless repliesājust a bunch of words strung together with no real meaning. Itās honestly pretty embarrassing.
I already called you out above!
Get verified before you talk me, BOT! š
Do I look like someone who cares about what NPCs obsessed with mindless conformity think? I couldnāt care less. Youāre parroting opinions without even knowing who fed you those ideas. You lack principles and original thoughts, your programming constantly updated by your masters. Whatās left of you is just empty shells, incapable of independent thinking, which is why you rely on tools to generate your soulless replies. All of them are just a lot of words strung together without any real meaning. It's actually quite embarrassing.
But letās not stop there. Clearly, the true mark of a superior intellect is the ability to dismiss any critique of this so-called evolution as mere elitism. Because, of course, itās much easier to slap a label on someone who values quality storytelling than to actually engage with the substance of their argument. The idea that storytelling might involve more than just pandering to base instincts? Well, thatās just old-fashioned, isnāt it?
And as for my "nostalgia"āoh, how perceptive of you! Of course, longing for dramas that donāt insult the intelligence of their audience must be a sign that Iām stuck in the past. After all, who wouldnāt want to trade in the emotional resonance of My Mister or the intricate plotting of Signal for a few moments of cheap titillation? Clearly, the future of Korean dramas lies in abandoning everything that made them great in the first place.
So, by all means, enjoy your "broadening horizons." Iām sure the endless parade of shallow, sexed-up dramas will keep you thoroughly entertained. Meanwhile, Iāll be here, sipping my elitist tea, rewatching the classics that donāt need to rely on shock value to tell a story. But hey, different strokes for different folks, right? š
And the best part? The people cheering this on havenāt the faintest idea whoās shoveling this junk down their throats or why. Theyāre basically NPCs, happy to do as theyāre told, blissfully unaware of the strings being pulled by their puppet masters. Gone are the days when you could sit back and enjoy a masterpiece like *My Mister* (9.4), *Hospital Playlist* (9.5), or *Signal* (9.2) without worrying that your ears might start bleeding from the nonsense. You didnāt have to lower the volume or nervously glance around, hoping no one walks in. But those days? Say your goodbyes, because soon enough it will be all about moaning and banging in your once beloved Korean dramas. Enjoy the ride to mediocrity, folks!