ikr i agree with all things you said. For me this show will become the best of 2026. I was looking forward to…
It does - even though there are sad moments, even though I am both cheering for and worried for the ML and the FL - it is so healing ❤️🩹- “soothed my trepidation” - yes exactly this! 💕
Just wow, just wow, just wow 🤯 This show - and I am not exaggerating- if you are taking a film class and need something fresh to write about and analyze- THIS is it. The above would also apply to if you were in a psychology course. There is sooooooooo much going on in this story, so much meaning. The only difficulty you’d have in writing about it, well you probably have to limit yourself to ONE episode - and then maybe you’d even have to limit yourself to ONE scene. Proof: 1) about 5 minutes in, it was soooo fun and lighthearted 2) about 13 minutes in, it was psychologically interesting - what is this side character’s really big ego getting themself into? Will this cause them trouble later. 3) about 26 minutes in, the start of a scene that had me laughing SOOOO hard, I actually had to pause the show - and chuckling got up to get a soda from the kitchen, continued laughing and amused, composed myself, and then was able to start the show again 4) 46 minutes in, the start of several minutes of just a very warm heartwarming time
There were other emotions to - furious with someone being petty and jealous and you just wanted to slap them - happiness and seeing someone there for someone who needed them. Everyhting, this show has everything.
At this point, I just want to thank the actors, directors and writers. This series, if I stopped right now at this point - I would consider it one of the best pieces of cinematic delight - top 10 - I’ve scene in my lifetime. To the writer: I don’t think you will, as each episode keep getting better and better - - but even if if this goes on a path I don’t like, even if I hate the rest - if I met you I’d still want to hug you for this wonderful wonderful work. In my opinion: you can do no wrong at this point because you’ve already done so much - what you have written has profoundly moved me.
Everything else, all the episodes and anything else that I watch that you’ve created- it’s just frosting on top of the best desert after a perfectly healthy, delicious and balanced meal. This series is everything.
People hate competent women just in general. Her boss seems to feel threatened that people come to her and her…
I don’t think it’s lazy writing, it’s showing why she has the character strength that she does. Notice - 1) although she is being bullied, she is not collapsing like a crumpled flower, she is standing up to the bullies. The strength she gets to do this is from her childhood - someone from a loving family would be shocked at that level of abuse and would just had in resignation + go back to their family for support as they looked for a healthier work environment. Although she doesn’t have a family supporting her, she faces it head on, on her own strength. 2) her being mistreated by that writer that she dated who then is trying to steal credit for her contributions ( his name?) — that would obviously also come from her mistreatment as a child. People who are abandoned as children unconsciously seek out similar personality types as their former abuser to try and “fix” the childhood trauma. This normally doesn’t end well for them and then they get abused a second time. In other words, they’re an easy target for narcissist, etc. (hope is now she found Dong Man - she can move on to a healthier relationship where they both support each other.)
Something like Perfect Crown is like grape juice. Sweet and goes down easily. This drama though is like rich vintage…
Yes, but people read and watch dramas for different reasons. I remember sitting in AP English and the professor was talking about “fluff” literature, that it was like eating cotton candy - all air. But I LIKE cotton candy. And I like Perfect Crown.
This series - this is extremely well written and acted and directed - it’s got all three - and I LOVE it!! But cotton candy has it place, and you can still enjoy it - it just doesn’t fill you up. If I could only watch one, I’d pick this drama - but since I can watch both, I’ll happily watch both 😉
Has anyone watched an episode of this drama, and then right after and gone and watched another drama that you pretty much had liked previously + they get to a scene where the actors crying and it supposed to be emotional ….. and it seems so flat?
We Are All Trying Here is on such a different level - it completely emotionally pulls you all the way in, completely - there is so much nuance and the writing is sublime and the acting is all in, for example, when Eun A explains to the actress why she needed to take that role, it was sooooo well acted, by everyone in the room, it felt like I was actually there and sitting in on a rather uncomfortable meeting.
I think this drama is setting the bar soooo high - I now want all the dramas I’m watching to be at this level.
There are some scenes in Ep 3 and 4 that show that a few members of this group 8 had started seriously looking…
Yeah, but unless you’ve plenty of money, you have to let go of material things to live like that. If you don’t show up for work, then you might lose your job. That’s why I said that I knew a couple of artist that way - they were able to live like that and still make enough to pay there bills because the nature of their work allowed a much more flexible lifestyle. But they obtained that lifestyle by not really caring about material things to begin with - that’s why I associate the two: being free and not caring about material things.
There are some scenes in Ep 3 and 4 that show that a few members of this group 8 had started seriously looking…
The ones I know who live that “real” life - they are either religious, a couple artist and musicians … personally- I can forgo many status symbols and fancy food, but I would have a hard time living without certain comforts - like hot showers + soft sheets … We all get pulled into the material things to some degree, it’s impossible not to - you can see how hard living life on the edge is on the ML and his brother. Trying to stay true to self and still keep the lights on is a balance.
So they used him and chewed him out like bubblegum..... Pathetic. Everyone was complaining about Dongmsn's behavior…
Exactly - they used him and they treated him badly because they felt guilty about it. It made sense there was a reason they were all keeping him around for so long - it seemed like only a couple of them really liked him on some level - the rest obviously looked down on him.
Hope he stays away for a while and let’s -Byeon Eun A treate him well so he learns his worth and what he is capable of 💕🥰
There are some scenes in Ep 3 and 4 that show that a few members of this group 8 had started seriously looking…
o.O - wow, yeah that’s really insightful- life isn’t about how perfect your clothes are or the car you drive. It’s really hard to not be pulled in by societal demands …
rating bombing has became a very common thing these days. the same had happened to some other ongoing series as…
Rating bombing really bothers me - but yeah they do it. They hit new dramas and try and to tank it out of the gate, it’s easier to impact a rating down with one star reviews and then to bring their drama that they got paid to inflate up. Just look at ratings of first four episode vs later episodes to have good idea of what the dramas rating truly is.
There are some scenes in Ep 3 and 4 that show that a few members of this group 8 had started seriously looking…
Yeah, I think mainly to me: just because he isn’t successful yet and hasn’t made it does NOT mean he is worthless and that the others are somehow better than him - and them treating him like their superior is what’s actually wrong. In other words, his behavior is in reaction to their snobbery NOT the cause of it.
There are some scenes in Ep 3 and 4 that show that a few members of this group 8 had started seriously looking down on him after they had success and he hadn’t yet. They started thinking they were better than him and he KNEW they looked down on him.
So the people who think he’s behaving badly, I ask - if someone is treating you terribly, do you really owe them respect? I don’t think so, I think his behavior towards them is fine - why on earth should he be happy for their success when they themselves are delighting in his failure?
And yes, he absolutely should have stopped hanging out with them a while ago - but they’d been his core social group for so long and I think the change in the group dynamic happened slowly over time. Also, not everyone in the group cannot stand him, there are three that still actually like him. And, he is having a hard time - that’s a core piece of the drama.
I’d agree that I’d be disappointed in our hero if we end the series and he hasn’t grown and changed himself - but I don’t think that’s the direction of this series.
Yeah - I thought this rating should be much much higher as this is the best series on right now, but then I started seeing some of the posts here with complaints about Dong Man and a couple posters even used curse words to describe him. If they don’t like the main character, they’re probably going to give the series a low score. Those people just don’t get him - why?
Maybe they’re skipping though scenes, this isn’t a series that you should do that, there is a lot of subtext.
Maybe they’ve never been through a really hard time themselves, so they just don’t get it.
But my feeling is - they aren’t picking up on all the subtext, it’s going over their head. The series shows us WHY he acts that way, and it makes complete sense (Further details below hidden for those who haven’t watched thru ep 4)
I guess - people either get it, or they don’t - I just wish that people wouldn’t rate the show badly just because they don’t understand what is going on.
I think people are thinking too black and white. Two things can be true. Especially for a very layered drama about…
I completely agree with you, his characters is complex - not everything he does is perfect. But that’s what makes us human, we make mistakes + have to keep going.
If anyone jumps to ML defense - I think it’s a natural instinct to seek a righteous and good path, and defend the person we believe is more correct.
For years, he’s KNOWN that a few of the people is his group look down on him. He’s known it, and he isn’t the type of person who is good at being fake, so he gives it back. Their insults are underhanded and clever, in disguise or behind his back — while his insults are right in their face. Personally, when I compare his behavior and their behavior, his wins. Their criticism (the characters in the story) fails as they’ve been worse than he.
Us, as viewers, we see both sides … for example, the lady who kicked him out of the bar - it shows her later telling him he can come back once he gets a girlfriend (she hopes that will help him constrain himself) - so she isn’t vicious in her rejection, she’s just trying to get her own husband to stop fixating on MLs behavior. Like, I see her and get her. But if it’s THEM vs ML, I side with ML. Perhaps posters who take exception to criticism of ML are defending him simply as they think the treatment he received from that group was already too much and what ML really needs is some care and compassion- that is what will help him calm down.
it’s been a while since I’ve loved a message board and all the posters on it as much as I am loving this one!!! 🥰😘 Thank you for all your comments and thoughts about the show — I need something to read while I have to wait for episode 5!
This show - and I am not exaggerating- if you are taking a film class and need something fresh to write about and analyze- THIS is it.
The above would also apply to if you were in a psychology course.
There is sooooooooo much going on in this story, so much meaning. The only difficulty you’d have in writing about it, well you probably have to limit yourself to ONE episode - and then maybe you’d even have to limit yourself to ONE scene.
Proof:
1) about 5 minutes in, it was soooo fun and lighthearted
2) about 13 minutes in, it was psychologically interesting - what is this side character’s really big ego getting themself into? Will this cause them trouble later.
3) about 26 minutes in, the start of a scene that had me laughing SOOOO hard, I actually had to pause the show - and chuckling got up to get a soda from the kitchen, continued laughing and amused, composed myself, and then was able to start the show again
4) 46 minutes in, the start of several minutes of just a very warm heartwarming time
There were other emotions to - furious with someone being petty and jealous and you just wanted to slap them - happiness and seeing someone there for someone who needed them.
Everyhting, this show has everything.
At this point, I just want to thank the actors, directors and writers. This series, if I stopped right now at this point - I would consider it one of the best pieces of cinematic delight - top 10 - I’ve scene in my lifetime. To the writer: I don’t think you will, as each episode keep getting better and better - - but even if if this goes on a path I don’t like, even if I hate the rest - if I met you I’d still want to hug you for this wonderful wonderful work. In my opinion: you can do no wrong at this point because you’ve already done so much - what you have written has profoundly moved me.
Everything else, all the episodes and anything else that I watch that you’ve created- it’s just frosting on top of the best desert after a perfectly healthy, delicious and balanced meal. This series is everything.
Notice - 1) although she is being bullied, she is not collapsing like a crumpled flower, she is standing up to the bullies. The strength she gets to do this is from her childhood - someone from a loving family would be shocked at that level of abuse and would just had in resignation + go back to their family for support as they looked for a healthier work environment. Although she doesn’t have a family supporting her, she faces it head on, on her own strength.
2) her being mistreated by that writer that she dated who then is trying to steal credit for her contributions ( his name?) — that would obviously also come from her mistreatment as a child. People who are abandoned as children unconsciously seek out similar personality types as their former abuser to try and “fix” the childhood trauma. This normally doesn’t end well for them and then they get abused a second time. In other words, they’re an easy target for narcissist, etc. (hope is now she found Dong Man - she can move on to a healthier relationship where they both support each other.)
I remember sitting in AP English and the professor was talking about “fluff” literature, that it was like eating cotton candy - all air. But I LIKE cotton candy. And I like Perfect Crown.
This series - this is extremely well written and acted and directed - it’s got all three - and I LOVE it!!
But cotton candy has it place, and you can still enjoy it - it just doesn’t fill you up.
If I could only watch one, I’d pick this drama - but since I can watch both, I’ll happily watch both 😉
I feel so very spoiled right now, and I don’t want this series to end!
We Are All Trying Here is on such a different level - it completely emotionally pulls you all the way in, completely - there is so much nuance and the writing is sublime and the acting is all in, for example, when Eun A explains to the actress why she needed to take that role, it was sooooo well acted, by everyone in the room, it felt like I was actually there and sitting in on a rather uncomfortable meeting.
I think this drama is setting the bar soooo high - I now want all the dramas I’m watching to be at this level.
We all get pulled into the material things to some degree, it’s impossible not to - you can see how hard living life on the edge is on the ML and his brother.
Trying to stay true to self and still keep the lights on is a balance.
Hope he stays away for a while and let’s -Byeon Eun A treate him well so he learns his worth and what he is capable of 💕🥰
It’s really hard to not be pulled in by societal demands …
They hit new dramas and try and to tank it out of the gate, it’s easier to impact a rating down with one star reviews and then to bring their drama that they got paid to inflate up.
Just look at ratings of first four episode vs later episodes to have good idea of what the dramas rating truly is.
In other words, his behavior is in reaction to their snobbery NOT the cause of it.
So the people who think he’s behaving badly, I ask - if someone is treating you terribly, do you really owe them respect? I don’t think so, I think his behavior towards them is fine - why on earth should he be happy for their success when they themselves are delighting in his failure?
And yes, he absolutely should have stopped hanging out with them a while ago - but they’d been his core social group for so long and I think the change in the group dynamic happened slowly over time. Also, not everyone in the group cannot stand him, there are three that still actually like him. And, he is having a hard time - that’s a core piece of the drama.
I’d agree that I’d be disappointed in our hero if we end the series and he hasn’t grown and changed himself - but I don’t think that’s the direction of this series.
I love these first few episodes 🥰
Those people just don’t get him - why?
Maybe they’re skipping though scenes, this isn’t a series that you should do that, there is a lot of subtext.
Maybe they’ve never been through a really hard time themselves, so they just don’t get it.
But my feeling is - they aren’t picking up on all the subtext, it’s going over their head.
The series shows us WHY he acts that way, and it makes complete sense (Further details below hidden for those who haven’t watched thru ep 4)
I guess - people either get it, or they don’t - I just wish that people wouldn’t rate the show badly just because they don’t understand what is going on.
I am on of the ones who LOVES it!!
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If anyone jumps to ML defense - I think it’s a natural instinct to seek a righteous and good path, and defend the person we believe is more correct.
For years, he’s KNOWN that a few of the people is his group look down on him. He’s known it, and he isn’t the type of person who is good at being fake, so he gives it back. Their insults are underhanded and clever, in disguise or behind his back — while his insults are right in their face. Personally, when I compare his behavior and their behavior, his wins. Their criticism (the characters in the story) fails as they’ve been worse than he.
Us, as viewers, we see both sides … for example, the lady who kicked him out of the bar - it shows her later telling him he can come back once he gets a girlfriend (she hopes that will help him constrain himself) - so she isn’t vicious in her rejection, she’s just trying to get her own husband to stop fixating on MLs behavior. Like, I see her and get her. But if it’s THEM vs ML, I side with ML.
Perhaps posters who take exception to criticism of ML are defending him simply as they think the treatment he received from that group was already too much and what ML really needs is some care and compassion- that is what will help him calm down.
Thank you for all your comments and thoughts about the show — I need something to read while I have to wait for episode 5!