mooc

Yuck,

looking at dramas like these it's clear why South Korea is having a population collapse.
keep making shit like these, exactly the solution to South Korea's population collapse.

Aren't all Kdramas reverse harems?
I don't recall a drama where the ML had a harem or even liked Fl and another women at same time.

whats your point?
You think most young women care about all that? All they look at is whether the guy is handsome, tall and has money. That's it.

Even these Cdramas basically prove my point.
Show a single drama where the sexy FL ends up with a poor short nice guy?

thats the reality.
It's strange how on this forum people think only women have sexual feeling and men just fall in pure love.

Go and check cdramas, most cdramas objectify men a lot, FL's and other women are ogling at men and their physical attributes in ecstasy.

It's strange how it's ok when women reduce men to their bodies but it's a crime when men do it.
Btw, men care about women's bodies more than anything else. If you are thinking otherwise, you are living in a fantasy.

Just like how women want a rich, tall and handsome man.
ever seen a rich sexy successful women ending up with a short bald broke nice man??? Thought so..

Well, Bai Qian dumped her husband & son.
Then proceeded to fk another man to get help to save her master, it so happens this another man turns out to be her husband.

The mother is right to blame the FL.
It's because of her journey where the FL had to experience pain and suffering that ML got dragged into.
What does the FL once the journey ends and she gets a lot of power, ditch the husband and Son, then proceeds to fk another man.

No idea why the ML was on his knees begging this trash who never loved him!
He got dragged into her mess, got dumped, raised their son as single dad, kept helping her while that ungrateful woman was waltzing around to save another man.

in real life a guy like Arthur Chen would be swimming in boobies every right.
may be that's what he is doing every night in real life.

Only in cdramas do they make a man who is that good looking into someone desperate for a single woman.

ML and FL are toxic to each other, better ML ends up with 2FL and FL ends up with whoever.

FL barely loves ML, there is barely any indication of her love towards ML. She has multiple men around her and she seems more comfortable with them than the ML. FL will never love ML or any other man, she loves herself a lot. Better she finds a suitable man than a man for love.

At this point it's certain ML has no back bone or a brain, his testicles are doing the thinking for him at this point. Best for ML to settle with 2FL who loves him unconditionally than the toxic FL who will never love him.

No ML in any Cdrama ever cared about FL's money.

That's exactly the point, double standards.

When you have dramas where the standards for ML's love for the FL is measured in how he never looks at another woman and keeps his eye solely on Fl no matter the situation,
then the FL's love should be measured in the same standards as these dramas measure the ML's love.

That's called the golden rule.

The FL's in most cdramas fail the standard of love that the ML's are measured in the same dramas.

If the FL was a real person, I am completely with you. She has zero obligation towards the ML, has no need to wait and must move on with her life. That's the best thing for her, if she was a real person.

but, we are measuring the FL in the standards established by the Cdramas & the reference point is the ML.

Just because gender is changed does not mean values change, neither in real life nor in dramas.

The only real measure of FL and ML in these dramas has to be how these characters are being built in these dramas and nothing else.

Your point about double standards is spot on & I rest my case on just that.

if what makes a ML a good green flag is his unconditional and unwavering love for the FL, then that same standard must apply to the FL to measure her love & her character as well.
If not, these cdramas can start showing ML in the same way they show FL, i.e the ML's are also enjoying themselves with other women.

You really can't have it both ways where the ML always remains a pure virgin for the FL and the FL is fking other men.

In real world, you are spot on.
No one holds a duty to someone who dumps them or does not love them. The one who is dumped or neglected has every right to find their own happiness, be it a man or a woman.

but, this discussion is happening in context of cdrama world.

The golden rule always gives us the answer, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

So, my question is ->
name few Cdramas where the ML has been dumped by the FL or the FL is in love with another man, where the ML dates other women?

You won't find any. On flip side, almost every cdrama involves a FL who had relationships with other men & a pure virgin ML. Not a single cdrama where the opposite happens.

In fact one of the most liked Cdrama here is 'My fated boy'. The FL in that one literally dates dozens of men right in front of ML, cries over men in front of ML and does not consider his love for a long time. Yet, the ML stays a pure virgin and saves himself for the FL, all the while the FL is happily fking other men.
Why did the writers make the ML save himself for the FL? Would ML fking other women make his love for the FL any less? Or do you think ML's in these dramas should just wait and wait and wait while the FL comes around? We all know why the ML waited and saved his virginity for the FL who fked other men in this drama...it's because that's what sells.

Another drama is 'Eternal love'. FL in that one brutally dumps ML and their child. Couldn't give a FlyingF about them, yet the ML keeps waiting, saving his purity for the FL, while the FL is happy to fk any man willing to help her save her master.
The FL in this one barely likes the ML, dumps him, couldn't give a shit about him. Yet, the ML keeps waiting and waiting and waiting.

I can give hundred other Cdramas as examples.

I challenge you to give one example in recent years where the ML moves on, fks other women and the FL keeps waiting and chasing after the ML?

My argument is not coming from the real world scenario but specific to the tropes in Cdramas.

There are numerous cdramas where the FL dumps ML or with another man or in love with another man, yet, in those dramas the ML never stops loving the FL and even chases her and loves her unconditionally.

If the FL in this drama ever loved the ML, she would have been like the ML's in literally hundreds of cdramas and chased the ML and loved him unconditionally.

Oh wait, since she is a woman, she can't do that, right? It's beneath a strong woman to chase a man..
Only the ML even after getting dumped or looking at FL with another man, should still wait and keep chasing the FL and be in love with her.......
in fact one of the pet logic in this forum is "LOL, I want ML to suffer more and chase FL"...

the fact that FL just gives up and never runs after ML and ends up jumping from one weiner and weiner is all the confirmation you need to tell that this woman never loved the ML - this logic is as per cdrama standards.

It's funny how no matter the situation, the FL in cdramas will always have a man but the ML will never move on.

not talking about Japanese dramas,

Show me a single one in Kdramas or Cdramas in last 5 years?
On other hand I will show 10 kdramas in this year alone where the ML is a pure virgin and FL fked other men.

I thought the point was, the one who broke up has no right or expect the other to wait for them.

If that was the case, there are hundreds of cdramas where the FL breaks up with ML and the ML moves on.
In fact, even after the FL is the one who breaks up, she is shown as one dating other men while the ML is still in love simping the FL.

As example, take cdrama "eternal love".
the FL dumps ML and their kid & she moves on, while the ML who is being chased by multiple women remains single in love with FL...and he is the one who bends down to lick her feet even when FL was the one who dumped him and the kid.

I don't care about older dramas.
I am talking about dramas in last 5 years.

There is only one pattern.
the pure virgin ML who never looks at any other woman than the FL
and the FL who loved/shagged multiple guys.

There is no opposite where the ML loved/shagged multiple women and the FL is a pure virgin who only loved the ML in last 5+ years

I would give you that.
only if in cdramas where the opposite happens where the FL dumps the ML for some reason & the ML is continues his life with other women.

but even in those dramas, the FL moves on with other men while the ML is simping.

Either ML breaks up or the FL breaks up, in cdramas, the FL will move on to the next weiner while the ML is shown polishing his rod thinking about the FL.

In this particular drama, the FL drew so many boundaries with ML to the point where he did no have any confidence in her.
And worse, with the other guy she basically does not draw any boundary even when his fist is deep inside her.

that still means she had relationships with other men,
while the ML is still a pure virgin.

Why are there no Kdramas in last few years where the ML has had relationships and the FL is a pure virgin who only ever loved the ML?

we got like 100+ Kdramas where the FL fked other men and the ML is a pure virgin who only loved the FL in last few years

The FL has 2ML balls deep inside her & that is perfectly fine from her end.
but she sees a girl near the ML, it's grounds for dumping and hating him.

While the FL will be jumping from one weiner to another weiner, the ML will be brooding in love for FL and won't even make eye contact with any other women to keep his purity and virginity intact.

Let the simping begin, after all by the end the drama needs to grind ML's backbone to dust.

I am taking up with the writers by posting here.

Don't remember tagging you by name and asking for your opinion.

It's so funny watching people get triggered when you post facts about ML and FL of Kdramas.
It's also silly to shoot the messenger when it;s the writers making all the men pure virgin hot handsome ML's. As if the FL must have her husband a pure virgin...

yuck, cringy shit.

well, the FL has had relationships - confirmed

the ML and 2ML has had zero relationships - prove me wrong.

Rest of your post is worthless.
I am only posting what I am observing in these Kdramas.

You got problems, take it up with writers and directors of these cringy shitfest, not me.

reiterating, I am posting what is being shown in the drama.
You are not saying what I am posting is wrong, you are only angry that I am posting the truth and making people uncomfortable.

are you saying something is wrong if the FL slept with some one?
that's misogyny.

I am crapping on the pure virgin ML and the 2ML.
I mean, really...strong independent women with past relationships want to end up with pure virgin men?

Hilariously cringy shit.