Curious to know about Soo Cheol and Da Hye's baby - Geon Woo Under Spoilers - my comment, please share your views - what do you think?
Edit: Ep 12 answers my previous question. Looks like not all relations need to be formed through blood ❤️ Thanks all below for your comments and theories!
Not sure how will I react if I meet a person like Soo Cheol IRL. My reaction probably would be like his Noona. But the writers have written a fine character & the actor, KDY delivers it bang on!
Behind that goofy/dumb comical front, there is a heartwarming father, husband, brother and son!
Fantastic acting - Kwak Dong Yeon has come a long way, from bit parts to support roles - I have seen and loved his journey since the start. Love all his roles and hoping that he will take up main male lead roles too, cause I think he has got it all, and the such a role will make him shine even brighter!
EP 11Please allow the Charmain to be the most intelligent member of this Family, he must be faking no wayyyy.…
Totally rooting for this - that he is faking the memory loss. Grandfather is probably planning a comeback and would beat the women at her own game! He was probably got a forewarning when she beat him at the game, for the first time - when he asks her if she got lucky or not. Maybe his survival senses picked something up and he trusted no one and planned a backup since then or maybe before or as soon as he woke up.
can't wait to find out - the mystery is too much, and I can't wait for the evil peeps to eat dirt!
This is my first drama of Kim Ji Won. As in I have seen her in The Heirs, and I know of her iconic roles in DOTS, Fight for my Way etc through social media reels/shorts etc. - but this is the first time I am watching her with max screentime, one can say. I don't know if it is because of the look she is carrying in this drama - but she is so damn beautiful. Like literally perfection, I actually take a pause at times and admire her in some scenes.
I can truly believe why one of my fav artists and all-time crush, BI (Hanbin) - said she has been an inspiration for many of his songs, and is his ideal type. 🩷🩷🩷
I don't think one can say this is based on a particular idol since sadly in the last 5-6 yrs a lot of well know…
Yes, we cannot call out a particular idol, but given the high rates of suicides in SK, I believe such dramas are created to bring focus on the issue - in an attempt to mitigate it.
I know I cannot even blame people who are posting such cases on SNS either - cause the algorithm of SNS works on things that can shock and go viral. Maybe that is why people are drawing such parallels. While these are opinions, I just hope people are careful with it - words are mighty and social media at this point in time the mightiest.
What might be said an opinion can be taken as a fact very easily and masses be swayed.
This one started pretty strong. Loved the first two episodes. Kim hye yoon is a really good actress. Some scenes…
I hope so too - that it does not become a drag in the middle, as is the case with so many new dramas. Also, cause I have anticipated this one for so long - both the leads are my absolute favs.
Let's see - not in our hands though, but we can just hope for the best and satisfactory drama!
There is a lot of comment on MDL and Social Media - where many are saying that this drama is based on Jonghyun/Moonbin's lives/death. I came across this comment of Diphylleia Grayi (https://mydramalist.com/750099-time-walking-on-memory#comment-16897433, again wishing we could @ users on MDL)
As a fellow Shawol, I AM WITH this comment and while I do not feel disrespect, but I am disappointed to see the "fans" reactions. Hence penning some thoughts:
🔴 I think people are to eager to jump to conclusions, and at times for clickbaits on their reels/Tiktoks - make such statements, that the drama is inspired by Jonghyun or Moonbin's life. Cause if they were true fans, they will never make such statements/videos - which is harsh on the new drama, even before giving it a chance and indirectly shows that you are not truly a fan, but just here for some attention and shock value.
🔴 While the creators of the show have cleared that is not the case, and every drama always carries the line "any resemblance to any living/dead person is purely coincidental" - I don't understand why these statements come in. And in any case, we cannot go in the head of the manhwa or drama writers - who knows maybe they did take inspiration from the cases of real life celebs - but then worked their way differently for a story. We can never know for sure and that is okay.
🔴 Even if it is inspired should we not feel good - if we are true fans? Cause, okay here is a drama that talks about the pressures of the entertainment industry and what idols go through. Maybe this will help in propagating the message in the society that celebs are also people and we must be careful in how we react to them.
I for one - am still affected by some of the celebs that I followed since my teens but they passed away too soon - Jonghyun, Moonbin, Haruma Miura being some of them. While am still pained by that fact that I cannot enjoy their new work or know how they are doing, it does not stop me from celebrating their work. Afterall it is the legacy they have left behind and I will forever cherish them.
And in course of time, if there are dramas like True Beauty, Lovely Runner - that address the point of these serious issues of suicide due to pressure of work in the entertainment industry - I as a fan am sad cause it makes me remember their untimely deaths in real life- but am also hopeful/glad that someone is addressing these social evils/behaviors that still exist in our society, through the medium of dramas/manhwas/novels. ❤️
All the celeb cases in real life - were covered highly in media, cause the artists were high profile, and it is is always shocking and saddening. So it is human nature, that when you come across a similar incident/story - you tend to draw parallels. But this should by no means give on the right to use it for personal gains/badmouth someone's work (manhwa/drama in this case)
In conclusion, anyone cannot stop anyone else from expressing how they feel about the drama - its origins/inspirations included. But I really hope they do not use the real celeb's name just for personal gains (more likes/comments on their videos on SNS). We must be more understanding and see the new work as a whole - give it the chance to narrate its story/interpretation of something whose roots thrive from the real world.
Afterall that is what drives us to come back to dramas/art/music and other creative work when the reel and real connect. And inspired or not - if it makes you fondly remember your favorite celeb who passed away too soon - can that really be a bad thing for any true fan? 🙏🏻
Basically a rip off of the FL's previous drama Extraordinary You last 2019. The time travel, same school setting…
The themes maybe old/cliche - but the execution or rather this new interpretation will make it or break it. It can be an exciting new retelling with new characters/cast 🤞🏻
Common Elements are there - Not just Extraordinary You, there are a lot of parallels with other dramas also. Closest that come to mind is Someday or One Day and the K-remake, A Time Called You. In fact, even before the drama started and was only announced - I commented in MDL sharing how it sounds very similar to a Wattpad story, In 27 Days (one of my personal favs)
To your point - of course, since the actress is same, we are bound to compare it to Extraordinary You, directly along with the other common themes. While there Dan Ho wanted to survive and be the main character with Haru, here too - FL wants to avoid her accident and help ML survive as well.
But where I differ from your point - if the writers want it & I hope they do...the focus is a level deeper: unrequited love, pressures in society for idols and also someone living with a disability(I thought that intern job interview was a strong point on inclusion and diversity at workplace or rather lack of it), family dynamics, murder/suicide mystery of ML, accident of FL mystery - these are some of things that come to my mind that makes it already much different from Extraordinary You.
Themes of: Past Lovers, Survival, Murder/Suicide mystery, Time Travel, School etc. are quite common in dramas, and well loved. I guess we have to see how they execute it this time in this new drama, Lovely Runner.
Maybe both the boys were there at time of the accident. Tae Sung and Sun Jae also got injured while saving the FL. Tae Sung either died, or grievously injured to the point that he had to go incognito.
Sun Jae - feels a little guilty about this and now that his shoulder injury rehashed, it ended his swimming career. But to pay homage to Tae Sung and also be the kind of guy that FL likes - he chose to move his career towards singing/idol.
Maybe all this = being unable to express his love to FL, till present date + Knowing that he could have done more to save both of them - FL and Tae Sung + the pressures of the idol industry, drove him to take the drastic step to take his own life in 2022/2023.
Theory 2: Why the FL mother was shifty There is another element to the above. We are yet to see the FL's father. What if he is not a good person - greedy/drunkard etc- and he is the one who caused the accident?
Maybe some tiff with the mother - maybe she did not give him money or something, and he ended up ramming the mini truck towards his daughter when she went after him or something?
Okay - so this unnie has been anticipating this drama since long, and has binged the first 2 episode and now I…
Questions - basis Ep 2 end, ML POV:
Clearly, ML has had a one-sided crush on the FL, in the past - original timeline. I guess she never reciprocated and was chasing after Tae Sung. Eventually, getting into the accident and losing the use of her legs.
Questions: ❓1. Given the context we now know - coming to Eclipse on the radio chat show, where Sun Jae, ML dials a number of a fan and connects with FL. Was that a chance or on purpose?
Theory 1 - On Purpose: Did he want to know how she was doing - since for some reason he could not contact her directly?
Sub-Theory: He saved her and hurt his shoulder ending his swimming career. His father was angry at FL's mother and family, and forbade ML to speak to them, moving house/schools. But he never forgot her and saw this as a chance to reconnect?
Theory 2: Chance /Coincidence - and this is what we call destiny?
In either case - over the phone, he does realize her as old crush and hence asks her to continue living (I solidly believe he saved her, but didn't know her condition)
❓2. In 2022 - when it is snowing and he stops the car and offers the umbrella to FL, whose wheelchair is not working. Sun Jae - definitely knows who she is since in original timeline he had a crush on her?
❓3. When we see the table, after ML has taken his own life, by jumping off the balcony. There are a lot of pills and next to the wallet - a picture appears of the ML & FL together. What is that and why is that happening?
I really hope it is not cause he feels guilty seeing that he saved his crush but she is still in wheelchair and that was the last straw that drove him to take his own life. I really hope not 😥 But why did that picture appear???
Okay - so this unnie has been anticipating this drama since long, and has binged the first 2 episode and now I have some questions & theories - as with all good dramas! (In comment, under spoiler tag)
Have to praise: ⭐Byeon Woo Seok has all my heart - have followed his journey since so long, and so happy to see him in lead roles. And they better make his stay alive in this one with a happy ending.
⭐Kim Hye Yeon - while technically I have only seen her in Extraordinary You and in some cameos, here and there - she is amazing.
⭐Surprise cast was : Song Geon Hee as Kim Tae Sung (Thomas Cha, what are you doing here?) - he is going to suffer from the typical second ML syndrome, possibly another Han Seo Jun in making, but am not complaining, He is a treat for the eyes and brain cause he acts so well
Loving these leads and all the cast members in general, and hoping this drama ends as one of the best ones of 2024 🤞🏻The first episodes have been hook-worthy, and never have I ever wished for Mondays to come early, so that I can watch the story unfold!
Anyone else have a horrible feeling that her first crush/idol, Tae Sung, might have died while saving her? The…
Hmm, basis the flashback we see in the Ep 2 end, I think it was the ML - Ryu Sun Jae who saved her. We can already see he had a one-sided crush since he gave her the parcel. Also, in the flashback, though blurry the voice and outline is clearly Sun Jae.
But not sure - why her mother was so shifty about answering it. Theory on that is simply - he saved her and hurt his shoulder, which is what ended his swimming career. And his father made him shift schools/home to focus on something else.
Also, regarding Tae Sung - in 2022, as FL is in the car on the way to the concert, the friend says that Tae Sung withdrew from school else would have been expelled. I think they did not have anything much in the past (original timeline)- but things can change with the FL going back in time.
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Under Spoilers - my comment, please share your views - what do you think?
Edit: Ep 12 answers my previous question.
Looks like not all relations need to be formed through blood ❤️
Thanks all below for your comments and theories!
Behind that goofy/dumb comical front, there is a heartwarming father, husband, brother and son!
Fantastic acting - Kwak Dong Yeon has come a long way, from bit parts to support roles - I have seen and loved his journey since the start. Love all his roles and hoping that he will take up main male lead roles too, cause I think he has got it all, and the such a role will make him shine even brighter!
Grandfather is probably planning a comeback and would beat the women at her own game!
He was probably got a forewarning when she beat him at the game, for the first time - when he asks her if she got lucky or not. Maybe his survival senses picked something up and he trusted no one and planned a backup since then or maybe before or as soon as he woke up.
can't wait to find out - the mystery is too much, and I can't wait for the evil peeps to eat dirt!
This is my first drama of Kim Ji Won. As in I have seen her in The Heirs, and I know of her iconic roles in DOTS, Fight for my Way etc through social media reels/shorts etc. - but this is the first time I am watching her with max screentime, one can say. I don't know if it is because of the look she is carrying in this drama - but she is so damn beautiful. Like literally perfection, I actually take a pause at times and admire her in some scenes.
I can truly believe why one of my fav artists and all-time crush, BI (Hanbin) - said she has been an inspiration for many of his songs, and is his ideal type. 🩷🩷🩷
FL's Speed Dial Number 1 is the ML/Husband ❤️
I can only imagine the budget of this drama being 🚀🚀🚀
Would love to discuss, as am sure more mysteries are coming our way :)
I know I cannot even blame people who are posting such cases on SNS either - cause the algorithm of SNS works on things that can shock and go viral. Maybe that is why people are drawing such parallels. While these are opinions, I just hope people are careful with it - words are mighty and social media at this point in time the mightiest.
What might be said an opinion can be taken as a fact very easily and masses be swayed.
Let's see - not in our hands though, but we can just hope for the best and satisfactory drama!
Really hope that people are sensible about the topic - it is a profound one, before making such statements/comparisons.
As a fellow Shawol, I AM WITH this comment and while I do not feel disrespect, but I am disappointed to see the "fans" reactions. Hence penning some thoughts:
🔴 I think people are to eager to jump to conclusions, and at times for clickbaits on their reels/Tiktoks - make such statements, that the drama is inspired by Jonghyun or Moonbin's life. Cause if they were true fans, they will never make such statements/videos - which is harsh on the new drama, even before giving it a chance and indirectly shows that you are not truly a fan, but just here for some attention and shock value.
🔴 While the creators of the show have cleared that is not the case, and every drama always carries the line "any resemblance to any living/dead person is purely coincidental" - I don't understand why these statements come in. And in any case, we cannot go in the head of the manhwa or drama writers - who knows maybe they did take inspiration from the cases of real life celebs - but then worked their way differently for a story. We can never know for sure and that is okay.
🔴 Even if it is inspired should we not feel good - if we are true fans? Cause, okay here is a drama that talks about the pressures of the entertainment industry and what idols go through. Maybe this will help in propagating the message in the society that celebs are also people and we must be careful in how we react to them.
I for one - am still affected by some of the celebs that I followed since my teens but they passed away too soon - Jonghyun, Moonbin, Haruma Miura being some of them. While am still pained by that fact that I cannot enjoy their new work or know how they are doing, it does not stop me from celebrating their work. Afterall it is the legacy they have left behind and I will forever cherish them.
And in course of time, if there are dramas like True Beauty, Lovely Runner - that address the point of these serious issues of suicide due to pressure of work in the entertainment industry - I as a fan am sad cause it makes me remember their untimely deaths in real life- but am also hopeful/glad that someone is addressing these social evils/behaviors that still exist in our society, through the medium of dramas/manhwas/novels. ❤️
All the celeb cases in real life - were covered highly in media, cause the artists were high profile, and it is is always shocking and saddening. So it is human nature, that when you come across a similar incident/story - you tend to draw parallels. But this should by no means give on the right to use it for personal gains/badmouth someone's work (manhwa/drama in this case)
In conclusion, anyone cannot stop anyone else from expressing how they feel about the drama - its origins/inspirations included. But I really hope they do not use the real celeb's name just for personal gains (more likes/comments on their videos on SNS). We must be more understanding and see the new work as a whole - give it the chance to narrate its story/interpretation of something whose roots thrive from the real world.
Afterall that is what drives us to come back to dramas/art/music and other creative work when the reel and real connect. And inspired or not - if it makes you fondly remember your favorite celeb who passed away too soon - can that really be a bad thing for any true fan? 🙏🏻
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The way he got scared thinking someone /water ghost was behind him or next to his shoulder.
Anyways, loving all these *ahem ahem* shirtless, I mean swimming scenes.
And the way FL zooms in to check his concert photos - so us fangirls/boys!
Common Elements are there - Not just Extraordinary You, there are a lot of parallels with other dramas also. Closest that come to mind is Someday or One Day and the K-remake, A Time Called You. In fact, even before the drama started and was only announced - I commented in MDL sharing how it sounds very similar to a Wattpad story, In 27 Days (one of my personal favs)
To your point - of course, since the actress is same, we are bound to compare it to Extraordinary You, directly along with the other common themes. While there Dan Ho wanted to survive and be the main character with Haru, here too - FL wants to avoid her accident and help ML survive as well.
But where I differ from your point - if the writers want it & I hope they do...the focus is a level deeper: unrequited love, pressures in society for idols and also someone living with a disability(I thought that intern job interview was a strong point on inclusion and diversity at workplace or rather lack of it), family dynamics, murder/suicide mystery of ML, accident of FL mystery - these are some of things that come to my mind that makes it already much different from Extraordinary You.
Themes of: Past Lovers, Survival, Murder/Suicide mystery, Time Travel, School etc. are quite common in dramas, and well loved. I guess we have to see how they execute it this time in this new drama, Lovely Runner.
Basis your theory - I have another one.
Maybe both the boys were there at time of the accident. Tae Sung and Sun Jae also got injured while saving the FL. Tae Sung either died, or grievously injured to the point that he had to go incognito.
Sun Jae - feels a little guilty about this and now that his shoulder injury rehashed, it ended his swimming career. But to pay homage to Tae Sung and also be the kind of guy that FL likes - he chose to move his career towards singing/idol.
Maybe all this = being unable to express his love to FL, till present date + Knowing that he could have done more to save both of them - FL and Tae Sung + the pressures of the idol industry, drove him to take the drastic step to take his own life in 2022/2023.
Theory 2: Why the FL mother was shifty
There is another element to the above. We are yet to see the FL's father.
What if he is not a good person - greedy/drunkard etc- and he is the one who caused the accident?
Maybe some tiff with the mother - maybe she did not give him money or something, and he ended up ramming the mini truck towards his daughter when she went after him or something?
Far-fetched, I know - but just a thought.
Really hoping this drama exceed expectations, and look forward to discuss it with you and fellow MDL watchers of the drama!
Clearly, ML has had a one-sided crush on the FL, in the past - original timeline.
I guess she never reciprocated and was chasing after Tae Sung. Eventually, getting into the accident and losing the use of her legs.
Questions:
❓1. Given the context we now know - coming to Eclipse on the radio chat show, where Sun Jae, ML dials a number of a fan and connects with FL. Was that a chance or on purpose?
Theory 1 - On Purpose: Did he want to know how she was doing - since for some reason he could not contact her directly?
Sub-Theory: He saved her and hurt his shoulder ending his swimming career. His father was angry at FL's mother and family, and forbade ML to speak to them, moving house/schools. But he never forgot her and saw this as a chance to reconnect?
Theory 2: Chance /Coincidence - and this is what we call destiny?
In either case - over the phone, he does realize her as old crush and hence asks her to continue living (I solidly believe he saved her, but didn't know her condition)
❓2.
In 2022 - when it is snowing and he stops the car and offers the umbrella to FL, whose wheelchair is not working. Sun Jae - definitely knows who she is since in original timeline he had a crush on her?
❓3.
When we see the table, after ML has taken his own life, by jumping off the balcony. There are a lot of pills and next to the wallet - a picture appears of the ML & FL together. What is that and why is that happening?
I really hope it is not cause he feels guilty seeing that he saved his crush but she is still in wheelchair and that was the last straw that drove him to take his own life. I really hope not 😥 But why did that picture appear???
Have to praise:
⭐Byeon Woo Seok has all my heart - have followed his journey since so long, and so happy to see him in lead roles. And they better make his stay alive in this one with a happy ending.
⭐Kim Hye Yeon - while technically I have only seen her in Extraordinary You and in some cameos, here and there - she is amazing.
⭐Surprise cast was : Song Geon Hee as Kim Tae Sung
(Thomas Cha, what are you doing here?) - he is going to suffer from the typical second ML syndrome, possibly another Han Seo Jun in making, but am not complaining, He is a treat for the eyes and brain cause he acts so well
Loving these leads and all the cast members in general, and hoping this drama ends as one of the best ones of 2024 🤞🏻The first episodes have been hook-worthy, and never have I ever wished for Mondays to come early, so that I can watch the story unfold!
But not sure - why her mother was so shifty about answering it. Theory on that is simply - he saved her and hurt his shoulder, which is what ended his swimming career. And his father made him shift schools/home to focus on something else.
Also, regarding Tae Sung - in 2022, as FL is in the car on the way to the concert, the friend says that Tae Sung withdrew from school else would have been expelled. I think they did not have anything much in the past (original timeline)- but things can change with the FL going back in time.