soulpotaetoe

People rooting for a sad ending simply because Tinn was deeply hurt and Phob became the cause of that hurt are genuinely making me sick. Tinn has every right to be hurt by what happened; that doesn't, by itself, determine whether what they have is irredeemable.
I want them to actually confront what happened, explain themselves, listen to what wounded the other, and take accountability before deciding what comes next. And that doesn't even mean they have to end up together—I care about their growth and resolution, not just romantic reconciliation.
If they genuinely work through their conflict, understand each other, and then realize they still can't be together, I'll accept a tragic ending.
What I can't accept is “Tinn was hurt → Phob caused it → therefore they should suffer/separate” being treated as the entire story, because that skips the communication, growth, understanding, accountability, and complicated interpersonal issues that actually matter.

since I haven't watched ep 8 idk how to feel about phob or the whole situation.. I was initially siding with him because he was doing it for both the nation and tinn.. but if truly what he had been doing all along was using tinn just for the information then sorry I don't and can't support that.. I respect him as a soldier doing his duty for his nation but idk how to feel about him as a lover.. either we get a solid, promising redemption arc for phob or i don't mind getting a sad ending as in them going separate ways because how many times are you going to hurt tinn.. I'm so conflicted idk.. i hate how i understand them both though it hurts so damn much

why tf are ratings dropping lower.. are people really not here for the plot ?? and just nc and kiss scenes.. it was 8.8 two weeks ago, now it's 8.6.. why ? because the angst is eating. i don't understand..

i kinda feel bad for the woman too.. I don't think he chose her because he liked her but because of his own petty selfish ego.. people like seungho never like people, they use people after they're done using people they move on to their next target..

THIS KID NEEDS SOME SERIOUS THERAPY!!

the audacity of seungho to smile choosing that woman(not because he chose her but just to show jinwoo that he's good without him), smirk that he threw jinwoos way (that was so cold and cruel, if u chose someone you really "like" good for you but why rub it in jinwoos wound)
and then, if he already wasnt much of an ass himself, going ahead and saying, "ahh, whatever" 🙄.. was just so low cheap bs..


he never liked jinwoo nor was he torn between choosing him and the woman, he was using jw the whole time, for his enjoyment !! Sh enjoyed seeing Jw hurt, in pain, constantly crying, confused because of him !! A FVCKING DISGRACE TO HIMSELF.

according to tinns dad, tinn is only a good son until he sucumbbs to his dad's orders..
the moment he starts doing things for himself, suddenly he's selfish, suddenly he's not the same son anymore..

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH TINNS DAD 👊🏻😡

I mean, just think about it

Phob, started as someone who had essentially no agency within the existing social order—a servant, someone at the bottom of a system that dictated his place and worth.

Yet he managed to rise to become Captain of the Artillery Division and then use the position and influence he'd gained to challenge the very system that had kept people like him powerless.

i don't get people hating on phob..

you can hate the fact that he's using tinn for information, I do too.. but saying you hate him for who he is ?? doesn't click to me !! what he's doing for his nation, for his people even for tinn and their future together is nothing less extraordinary for someone who went from being a mere servant(slave to the system and society) to captain of the artilerry division !!
Matter of fact, we need to appreciate him for his courage because how many people actually did something for the nation or its people..

last week, with ep 6 the ratings were raised to an 8.8 !! who and why tf rated this lower than that ??

THIS MASTERPIECE, DESERVES NOTHING LESS THAN 9 🙄📢🔥

From my own experience, I don't fully agree. Having a nuanced, progressive mindset isn't necessarily dependent on someone's financial circumstances.
Poverty can obviously limit someone's options and put them under immense stress, but that doesn't inherently determine how empathetic, open-minded, or free-thinking they are.

I've honestly seen people below the poverty line be far more big-hearted and free-thinking than people from much more privileged backgrounds.

is he going to be executed.. because I read some thai fans comments where they specifically mentioned, the whole revolution was startegically and peacefully executed, with little no blood shed..

How would he have know ?! It was never communicated to him.

Phob has been on a secret mission (overthrow the monarchy to establish democracy) and was ordered to keep matters private, within the military itself..

I mean, not necessarily if they actually communicate properly. Plus, Chat being in such an integral position within the government, yet looting money from the treasury and entertaining a shit ton of loan scams without thinking twice about the impact it could have on his own family, makes his execution understandable.

But Phob is still indirectly responsible for the chain of events that led to it, and Chat is literally Tinn’s brother, so obviously Tinn would be conflicted and hurt even if he understands the moral/political reasoning behind it.

I just don't think that necessarily means it has to ruin Tinn and Phob’s relationship.

no cause I see what you mean

the way that I liked him in the first few eps.. regretting it now 😭💔

im so ready for his revenge arc !! I hope he goes harder than he did originally. i want xiaofan to come begging for mercy,on his knees..

XIAOFAN PLEASE SLAP THESE BITCHES (I MEAN, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM) RIGHT ACROSS THEIR FACES AAAAAHHHHHH

i don't get it, why is fanfan so disposable ??? like yes he's poor but what has that got to do with everyone using him as per their convenience. the daughter was pregnant with someone else's child so they got her married to fanfan to save the "being family's name", since the sister doens't want him the brother feels he has the right to do whatever whenver he wants to him like ??????

ziyang *the night before* : wenxi isn't even rude to you (fanfan)
wenxi *the next morning* : yeah hi, I need to move in! so you gotta pack yo bags and get out



like ???????????
he's so self centered eww (it's like asking the people living in the house to empty the house.. because of THAT ONE guest who has sky touching standards)

i don't get it, if wenxi needs to stay at luqings why does fanfan have to move out ? that apartment is huge..