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I read "Matt Smith" and I was like ?!?! the Doctor?? And then I read "House of the Dragon" and was like OH, yeah I can kinda see that. ^^"

Yes, there's no closure at the end of part 1 in terms of XY's romance. There is some closure in other areas of the story where a big milestone is achieved.

Glad you enjoyed the first episode. ^^

This is very spoilery, so please only continue reading if you want to know how part 2 of the drama is likely to end. Part 1 of the drama is generally aligned with chapters 1 - 28 of the novel (which has 51 chapters and an epilogue). At the end of Part 1, it's still all up in the air as to who XY will end up with. There is no "endgame" for Part 1. She is engaged to Feng Long, but clearly not in love with him and they have not set a wedding date. The other men are not happy about it, but none of them are in a position to ask her to marry them instead. If you read spoilers about XY ending up with TSJ, those are spoilers about the novel ending. Part 2 of the drama is expected to have generally the same ending.

https://koalasplayground.com/tag/lost-you-forever/page/7/

No worries ^^ Just wanted to give a warning to be safe. I'm responsible for a lot of the spoilers in the second thread!

@ Tallina The threads nathsketch mentioned are great, but just be forewarned: there are a lot of unhidden spoilers from both the drama and the novel in there. It's pretty much read-at-your-own-risk. It's not like the main comment thread where most posts with spoilers are hidden.

Great word, and a great character ^^

Exactly! Ooh good quote. Thanks for the link ^^

Had a good chat with a friend about people finding their own meaning in life today. Got home and my brain turned to LYF (always just a matter of time) and XL. Specifically the fact that he had two great missions in life that gave him so much purpose, and the fact that, when he died, he did so knowing that he had managed to fully and successfully complete both missions. I know a lot of people don't like his ending (XY included), but I'm quite invested in it. I don't want the drama writers to take the things he worked so hard for away from him.

Ah, yes a vaguely remember that scene. The Middle Plains family dynamics are not part of the story that holds my interest, so I have retained very few details from those parts of the novel and drama.

"Ah, so even in the novel, some of the clans WERE helping Gong Gong."

I'm not sure if those "powerful families" were Middle Plains families or Gao Xing families though. Since the war with Gao Xing recently ended and the passage goes on to say that the families' support for Gong Gong has since dried up, I thought it was referring to Gao Xing families.

I have to stop myself from over-thinking the details here, but imagine a version of this story where XL is no longer involved with the remnant army's fight or their death wish by the time he shows up in front of XY as FFB. He's completely free to actually pursue XY romantically and able to commit to her for a lifetime. I'd so love to see how that would play out!

Writing and responding to your username about this is a bit surreal tbh ^^ I feel like I'm gossiping about Xing Yue to Xing Yue.

He wants ZX to forgive Xing Yue. She tried to have XY assassinated, twice. After ZX finds out, he punishes her by completely ignoring her. Which, IMO, is already a much lighter punishment than I would've thought him capable of given his speech about dealing with the conspirators behind her first assassination.

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Chapter 46:

Feng Long said “I asked His Majesty to let me lead the army this time not for higher position or more riches, I’m doing this only for Xing Yue. His Majesty didn’t take away her Empress position or lock her up, but he has completely and utterly ignored her. A knife slowly cutting flesh is even more painful, and without His Majesty’s respect then the women on Zhi Jin Summit all look down on Xing Yue. In three years she’s aged hundreds of years. I want to win this big war and when His Majesty asks me what great reward I want, I will want nothing other than to ask that he forgives Xing Yue this once.”

This is what the novel says in chapter 46:

"An army base needed supplies and provisions and the reason Gong Gong picked Qing Shui town was because it was aligned with Gao Xing and next to the East Sea for the water route. Even if the Yellow Emperor closed off all land routes for the provision of supplies, Gong Gong could still get supplied through Gao Xing channels or the water route. Back then Gao Xing was happy to have the resistance army be a thorn in the side of Xuan Yuan and secretly sent provisions, and even some powerful families secretly were helping Gong Gong."

Is Chengrong Yi the drama equivalent of Little Zhu Rong? Feng Long and Xing Yue's dad? The fem!XL boat scene doesn't exist in the novel, so I'm afraid I can't check for specifics there.

I can't remember enough details of the part where the novel talks about the Middle Plains families not helping the Yellow Emperor to try and track that scene down, so take my recollection with a grain of salt.

Oh my god can you imagine if, after hundreds of years of stubbornly fighting, he just died in some seemingly-innocuous accident like the deity equivalent of slipping on a banana peel??

Please use the spoiler tag for comments with those kinds of details.

EDIT: Thank you :)!

By "why everyone thinks that XY's blood and family background pre-determine her fate with XL? As in, why they are assumed to be enemies that could never reconcile or be together?" I mean why everyone around XY in the novel (her father, her grandfather, and ZX) tells her she needs to stop having any association with XL because of who she is.

I agree that, regardless of XY's identity, XL always planned to die on the battlefield with his fellow soldiers, which would make a romantic relationship with anyone rather futile.

I do enjoy that ship ^^ He did have something he wanted to ask for though.

They made offers to both Gong Gong and XL.

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Chapter 46:

One Spring day, the Black Emperor sent Little Zhu Rong to pay a visit to Gong Gong and request his surrender and joining of the kingdom. Gong Gong refused. Within the span of three months, the Black Emperor sent Little Zhu Rong three more times to see Gong Gong, each time with ever greater rewards and incentive. He even promised to make Gong Gong a regional King with his own armed forces, and allow him to govern the entire territory around Qing Shui Town. But Gong Gong turned it all down.

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Chapter 50:

“Don’t thank me. Grandfather and I tried countless times to bring Xiang Liu to our side and I even gave him carte blanche to name his terms. But he would never abandon or betray Gong Gong. Actually all this time it’s not I who wouldn’t stop, it’s him who wouldn’t stop. If he vows to fight to the death, then there is nothing I can do. I can’t sacrifice Ru So and the soldiers. His life is a life, but so are the lives of those fighting for me.”

"Yeah, I understood this. That's why I am now over being sad about the ending (i.e. Xiang Liu's death, I was okay with XY being with Jing although I really wanted her to somehow be with all of them lmao but I'm over that now for the most part)."

Right? I feel like the ending is easier to accept after understanding how impossible it would be for XL and XY to be together even if they both confessed their feelings and wanted a lasting romantic relationship.

"Also, thanks for your commentary AH. It's always so insightful."

Thanks for your comments too! ^^

In the novel, Gao Xing (Haoling) provides some limited support for Gong Gong's army (they're happy to have him be a thorn in Xuan Yuan's side) and the families of the Middle Plains don't actively support him, but also won't actively help Xuan Yuan to suppress him.