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Definitely there's an intent there in the narrative and it's manufactured. They're creating a justification not to tell her, because the story needs it - the narrative wants the next generation (the MLs in the other 2 series) to misunderstand Hongye and think he did her wrong. They need to be influenced by what Qinlan and outsiders say about the relationship. So Qinlan must not know the full truth herself. We know this from the already aired Red Moon Pact.

At least we know from the start so we can make a choice to watch a SE drama. I normally hate SE dramas but tbh I'm still watching this one because at least I'm not being given false promises.

I agree that it's risky. Let's be real, she's not very subtle and she's very mischievous. She could joke around about their secret identities and reveal them. I don't blame him for not trusting her with a big, dangerous secret.

I'm finding ML's occasional dorky, fail-y moments around the FL very endearing. Badass 90% of the time but doomed to be a loser by love.

Generally I think the director is at fault or to be praised on kiss scenes. The director is DIRECTING them and in charge of making sure there are good angles and blocking, and should be ensuring the kiss communicates the intended sentiment/mental state of the time. If the actors are doing it poorly and the director gives no DIRECTION- it's their fault.

I feel like FL ends up with the same conclusion after that arc. At first she was repulsed by his arrogant & reckless scheming side but then she sees his bravery and passion as well, and his sincere feelings. He's definitely both and I've been won over like she was lol.

well said!!

Viewers who interpret Hong Ye as being a martyr/simp during the 20 year future arc are watching a different show than me. To me, HY does love her ofc.... but he is also very calculating and wins thru strategy more often than strength. He takes very calculated risks, based on projections of how he expects the other party to respond. The man is all about game theory. When he seems weak or appears self-sacrificing, oftentimes this is to further a goal. The man is brutal with himself. And he isn't going thru all that JUST for romance. He sees that the world went to sh*t starting with her kidnapping and CANNOT afford to let that celestial demon get what he wants.

This is one of those dramas that I didn't care enough about to even update my watching progress lmao. But now looking back, after watching some of Love in Pavillion, I do think Red Moon Pact suffered by airing first. I feel like if we had already watched Love in Pavillion and so had a familiarity with ML's mom (the cheerful, mischievous sister) then we might have felt an extra affection and empathy for her kid. and thus be more invested in his journey. 🤔

2025 historical costume dramas with HE: Money is Coming, Si Jin, Perfect Match

I really kept being worried the drama would screw it up (either make people more knowledgeable about the topic than realistic for the day, or destroying the character). But actually I was very satisfied, throughout. Good handling of the topic. Strong acting. Does she have minor brain damage due to oxoygen deprivation or is she on the spectrum? No one in that time period has any way of measuring this or understanding. They just know she's different. It's handled with sensitivity and respect.

Actually I feel like we do see in Love in Pavillion how he's a grey character. He does have some idealism and his grand plan is intended to help the world. HOWEVER, he already is making compromises and using people as pawns (though with positive intent). I think we can see how over the decades he could start compromising more and more For The Greater Good and end up colder. Many politicians start out with good motives but where they end up.....
So ultimately I don't think there's a problem in the set up of Part 3, this drama.

This one is part of a larger series so everyone knows it's a SE. But Moonlight Mystique, Love of Divine Tree, and Blossoming Love this year were all xanxia that have HE for the main couple. So I think tbh it's just about picking carefully.

I kept trying to figure out why carp demon looked so familiar. He was one of the mains in Truth or Dare !

I really like that idea - that this was the choice he was making with his own agency, after a lifetime of others controlling his body. Super sad idea but thematically!!! It totally works 👌

yeah I agree that was his motive. he couldn't live with that burden.

She really had started seeing the ML differently and connected with him emotionally during these tragic events. She didn't blame him at all for how things turned out- when she had believed that ML had no ulterior motives. When she trusted that he would get justice for what occurred.

BECAUSE she had flipped in her sentiments towards him, she takes it hard to overhear that ML had a plan and the wedding was bait for him to clean up his adversary. Yes it wasn't his only motive and yes he didn't mean for good people to die, he's not evil. But he did choose to risk her friend and her beloved (a very good person) and made a bet on the Yang family falling into line. His bet lost. And now she heard him scold the Yang family and yet give no punishment, no justice.

I am more practical and cynical but the FL is not me. I totally understand why she, in line with her character, doesn't want anything to do with him.
It's not that he failed to protect those 2 good people (initially she came back to THANK HIM, even after their deaths - trying his best for pure reasons and failing was totally ok with her!) It's that he included them as pawns in his greater plan and is prioritizing his larger objectives. And he kept her in the dark, while she had felt they were partners in this endeavor. Again, it's not that ML is evil and hateful. But she's not interested in grand plans and the bigger picture right now. It's all feeling very personal for her.

At ep 8 and I am totally vibbing with the FL.

where is the animated version streaming? on viki or tencent or iqiyi?

He could be a married man with 4 concubines!