is it confirmed to be in total 14 episodes or it was just edited on the page of this drama here as on tuesday…
No it is not confirmed to be in total 14episodes. I believe they update it every week because there is no reliable source confirming the 31 episodes. I also researched one.
I felt pity for her when her father did not give her the recognition she wanted. But after you watch some more,…
Thank you for your point. I watch when DuanWu saved her and the miner. I really noticed there, that she was jealous/admirer of DuanWu. She is just despicable because she doesn't want to change. I am on episode 15 ( when DuanWu saved the Miners and Cui ShiJiu)
I think empress dowager titles are bestowed posthumous but never seen an empress titled bestowed after death.
You are welcome, I understand you.
I think that you gave to much power to Princess Zi Gu. Indeed, she could speak to the Emperor of Great Yan. But all you stated happened because of Prince Yue Qin.
He was an Hostage Prince since his young age in the palace ( probably 10 years before ,because it is after Qingzhou massacre ). He is manipulative and cunning. He just, first and foremost leveraged his knowledge of the Emperor, who he knew for years, manipulating him. So he created situations that he knew, the Emperor could not oppose. In my opinion, with or without Princess Zi Gu, the outcome would be the same.
If you remember, Prince Yue Qin never won a GO game during all the time he was an hostage at the palace, playing opposite the Emperor. The day he was leaving the palace to go to Xiyan to fight for the throne, he won. This shows how cunning and manipulative he is.
Honestly Princess Zi GU was a dumb girl, who did not know what love is. So she thought that, thinking about someone meant she was in love with that person. She listened to idiocy, and the Emperor as well was idiot enough to let himself be manipulated for more than 10 years by Prince Yue Qin.
I am re-watching the drama to find loop holes and incoerences. But to me the plot makes sense until now. The Xyian arc made sense because it was announced in episode 6. Mei Lin is a clever character. When she was alone, she could understand a lot of things. But after she teamed up with Prince Jing she relied on him after he told her ( I am paraphrasing here) : " You are very strong and intelligent. You could win in the world but in the royal palace against the Crown Prince, you will never win." Something like that.
From that point of time, she became a soldier and obeyed. To me this also makes sens. Because the plan of MRJH was to make the Emperor re-open the Qingzhou case. So it was about Law and Trial. Mei Lin could not be competent in that area. She had to rely on Prince Jing. It was not a duel between the eastern palace guards and the Shadow Works Faction.
Honestly now that I re-watch it everything is logical. The Only thing I don't like is the length of the Xiyan arc. It is too long in my opinion.
The one who had a weak body condition was Mei Lin, due to all the spoil food she had after Qinzhou great arson.…
I have ask the community and it appears that Mei Lin could not be called Empress without accepting a decree. So it is a happy ending, because she lived at least until the coronation ( 5 years later) and at most until MRJH died ( 15 years after the first snow)
I felt pity for her when her father did not give her the recognition she wanted. But after you watch some more,…
LOL You are always making me laugh. thank you ^^ I get tired of her. She is so evil and vindictive. ugh. I can understand that she wants to prove herself. But she doesn't take the good way. She has some qualities, but the are outshined by her shortcomings.
I think empress dowager titles are bestowed posthumous but never seen an empress titled bestowed after death.
I am grateful for your explanation. I understand your research and the way you got informed.
To be honest, I always finish every drama I begin (I hardly drop dramas : 4 to date, Although I can put them on pause, to resume them afterwards) because I like to experience them. And I have been misled before. So this is where my advice came from. Evidently, you are entitled to your opinion.
In fact, she had to go to Xiyan, it was announce since episode 6. Prince Yue Qin wanted to bring her there and force her to marry him since episode 6. So I wasn't surprised at all.
As for the decree. There was no need the void the decree. Prince Yue Qin, gave her a divorce few days after she arrived in Xiyan. And when Prince Yue Qin locked her up in Xiyan ( after divorcing her, to force her to love him) She faked her death and fled the Xiyan's royal family. So basically, Mei Lin died in Qingzhou ( while YQ and her were on official state visit) and she came back to Great Yan with a new identity :Miss Yan ( if I remember well).
On episode 15 : So far so good, a great drama with peculiar characters.
I am on episode 15
I am amazed that, the antagonist Master Cui ShiJiu, despite being a one-dimensional character, is still playing the part of a SML. That beautiful woman impersonates a man. But she is impulsive and evil. Moreover, the writer didn't bother to give her a woman's temper. She is all about arrogance and self publicity. Because she wants to be recognized by her father. A woman, would never act like that. A woman would prioritize the success of the mission before any recognition.
She is a great actress at playing that part, but her character is a very simplistic SML type of character.
About Female Lead. I am very pleased by the Zhao Lu Si's depiction of Duan Wu. It is my first drama watching her. I feel that, she is one of the best actress out there. She is very nuanced. This is beautiful to watch.
Duan Wu is clever and she can read the room. That allows us to witness her growth as a woman, and honestly I am rooting for her success as a merchant. I have no doubt she will fight her way to success. She has a sassy personality and how I love her interactions with Male Lead.
Moreover, her identity must be uncovered. She has to take back what belongs to her legally.
That type of "quest" is something every professional woman can relate to : success in the workplace. That thematic is universal. So, no wonder so much viewers want to follow her journey.
As for Male Lead Liu Yu Ning (Yan Zi Jing) I loved him in "A journey to love". I honestly like his cleverness and his patience in executing his revenge plan. To be honest, his schemes are not very elaborate but it is still nice to see him win everytime.
I guess that a hero has to face a very difficult villain to beat, in order to become an astonishing hero : the villain elevates the hero!!
In this case, unfortunatly the antagonist is that one-dimensional Master Cui ShiJiu. So Yan Zi Jing could not be extraordinary.
But I still appreciate his journey.
Apart from them, I really like the child actor "shrimp" who was in "the double" as well. He is very refreshing and talented. And also really cute. I am happy to see him again.
For all the rest of the castmembers, their acting is on point and I am binging the drama.
I think empress dowager titles are bestowed posthumous but never seen an empress titled bestowed after death.
Thank you for that theory, but it is not accurate. Not at all what happened. She fled Prince Yue Qin. She married MRJH and became Princess. After those several years she died as Empress of great Yan. I asked the question because some maids after she died refered to her as Empress. And she had to live to be crowned Empress. So this is not a sad ending at all. She survived at least 5 years after the first snow ( to harvest the antidote) , at most 15 years when MRJH died.
Little advice, you should not listen to what people say. You should make your own experience, because some people don't watch the show and comment only BS. Or they watch the show fast-fowarding x2 without understanding anything, after that they dare to comment about what they don't know about. They spread fake news.
I am watching SOAPG I am currently on episode 15. I like the complexity of the story and its historical accuracy as well.
I am amazed that, the antagonist Master Cui ShiJiu, despite being a one-dimensional character, is still playing the part of a SML. That beautiful woman impersonates a man. But she is impulsive and evil. Moreover, the writer didn't bother to give her a woman's temper. She is all about arrogance and self publicity. Because she wants to be recognized by her father. A woman, would never act like that. A woman would prioritize the success of the mission before any recognition.
She is a great actress at playing that part, but her character is a very simplistic SML type of character.
Miscellous question : in dramaland can the Title of Empress be bestowed to the late wife of a widower, after he…
I wondered if a widower who becomes Emperor, can after his coronation bestow the title of Empress to his late wife.
Normally No. Because, for a title to be bestowed, the recipient must accept the decree read by the eunuch. Thus, if there is no wife, then there is no title.
The answer is : Historically, the only posthumous title that can be bestowed is the title of Dowager. This title is bestowed by the new Emperor ( often the son of the late Emperor ).
So, a newly crowned widower can never bestow a title of Empress to his late wife. However, as a viewer pointed out , writers can do whatever they want in dramas, therefore a deceased Empress who cannot manage the Royale Household and thus the Royal Harem can exist in dramaland.
However, in "Kill Me Love Me" , the maids servants spoke about the late wife of the Emperor as the Empress. And the Emperor did not keep a harem. So historically, that situation would be accurate.
I was trying to understand the ending of a drama. Those directors are making the endings, more and more complex to let everybody free to believe whatever they want to. And often, that leads are dead. Because they LOVE sad endings. I wanted to know if the heroine survived.
Yes, she survived. But a lot of people think she died. *SMH*
Whereas she survived several years and it's a type of Happy Ending.
I think empress dowager titles are bestowed posthumous but never seen an empress titled bestowed after death.
Thank You. I wanted to understand the ending of "Kill Me Love Me". To decypher the status of female lead on the last scenes. Because she was addressed as Empress, so she received the decree. When that puzzle hit me, I couldn't find an answer. But luckily we crossed path, thank you so much. I don't know if you watched that drama. If not, don't worry, it is not a spoiler.
I think empress dowager titles are bestowed posthumous but never seen an empress titled bestowed after death.
Yes, this is also the feeling I got. Dowagers are bestowed the title and the properties they will manage after the previous Emperor dies. But that's it. A widower could not single handedly acknowledge his late wife, as Empress, after she died. If maid servants call her Empress, then it means that she received a decree. So she was alive. Thank you so much @Nunu T (^_^)
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I think that you gave to much power to Princess Zi Gu.
Indeed, she could speak to the Emperor of Great Yan. But all you stated happened because of Prince Yue Qin.
He was an Hostage Prince since his young age in the palace ( probably 10 years before ,because it is after Qingzhou massacre ). He is manipulative and cunning. He just, first and foremost leveraged his knowledge of the Emperor, who he knew for years, manipulating him.
So he created situations that he knew, the Emperor could not oppose.
In my opinion, with or without Princess Zi Gu, the outcome would be the same.
If you remember, Prince Yue Qin never won a GO game during all the time he was an hostage at the palace, playing opposite the Emperor.
The day he was leaving the palace to go to Xiyan to fight for the throne, he won.
This shows how cunning and manipulative he is.
Honestly Princess Zi GU was a dumb girl, who did not know what love is. So she thought that, thinking about someone meant she was in love with that person. She listened to idiocy, and the Emperor as well was idiot enough to let himself be manipulated for more than 10 years by Prince Yue Qin.
I am re-watching the drama to find loop holes and incoerences. But to me the plot makes sense until now.
The Xyian arc made sense because it was announced in episode 6.
Mei Lin is a clever character. When she was alone, she could understand a lot of things. But after she teamed up with Prince Jing she relied on him after he told her ( I am paraphrasing here) : " You are very strong and intelligent. You could win in the world but in the royal palace against the Crown Prince, you will never win."
Something like that.
From that point of time, she became a soldier and obeyed. To me this also makes sens. Because the plan of MRJH was to make the Emperor re-open the Qingzhou case. So it was about Law and Trial. Mei Lin could not be competent in that area. She had to rely on Prince Jing.
It was not a duel between the eastern palace guards and the Shadow Works Faction.
Honestly now that I re-watch it everything is logical. The Only thing I don't like is the length of the Xiyan arc. It is too long in my opinion.
I am on episode 7 now.
I commented this few hours ago.
https://mydramalist.com/680797-chun-hua-yan#comment-19524792
Thank you for the references you provided.
PS: ahah that's funny. ^^
I get tired of her. She is so evil and vindictive. ugh.
I can understand that she wants to prove herself. But she doesn't take the good way. She has some qualities, but the are outshined by her shortcomings.
To be honest, I always finish every drama I begin (I hardly drop dramas : 4 to date, Although I can put them on pause, to resume them afterwards) because I like to experience them. And I have been misled before. So this is where my advice came from. Evidently, you are entitled to your opinion.
In fact, she had to go to Xiyan, it was announce since episode 6. Prince Yue Qin wanted to bring her there and force her to marry him since episode 6. So I wasn't surprised at all.
As for the decree. There was no need the void the decree. Prince Yue Qin, gave her a divorce few days after she arrived in Xiyan. And when Prince Yue Qin locked her up in Xiyan ( after divorcing her, to force her to love him) She faked her death and fled the Xiyan's royal family. So basically, Mei Lin died in Qingzhou ( while YQ and her were on official state visit) and she came back to Great Yan with a new identity :Miss Yan ( if I remember well).
My take on episode 6 :
https://mydramalist.com/680797-chun-hua-yan#comment-19424678
I am amazed that, the antagonist Master Cui ShiJiu, despite being a one-dimensional character, is still playing the part of a SML. That beautiful woman impersonates a man. But she is impulsive and evil.
Moreover, the writer didn't bother to give her a woman's temper. She is all about arrogance and self publicity. Because she wants to be recognized by her father.
A woman, would never act like that. A woman would prioritize the success of the mission before any recognition.
She is a great actress at playing that part, but her character is a very simplistic SML type of character.
About Female Lead. I am very pleased by the Zhao Lu Si's depiction of Duan Wu. It is my first drama watching her. I feel that, she is one of the best actress out there. She is very nuanced. This is beautiful to watch.
Duan Wu is clever and she can read the room. That allows us to witness her growth as a woman, and honestly I am rooting for her success as a merchant. I have no doubt she will fight her way to success. She has a sassy personality and how I love her interactions with Male Lead.
Moreover, her identity must be uncovered. She has to take back what belongs to her legally.
That type of "quest" is something every professional woman can relate to : success in the workplace. That thematic is universal. So, no wonder so much viewers want to follow her journey.
As for Male Lead Liu Yu Ning (Yan Zi Jing) I loved him in "A journey to love". I honestly like his cleverness and his patience in executing his revenge plan. To be honest, his schemes are not very elaborate but it is still nice to see him win everytime.
I guess that a hero has to face a very difficult villain to beat, in order to become an astonishing hero : the villain elevates the hero!!
In this case, unfortunatly the antagonist is that one-dimensional Master Cui ShiJiu. So Yan Zi Jing could not be extraordinary.
But I still appreciate his journey.
Apart from them, I really like the child actor "shrimp" who was in "the double" as well. He is very refreshing and talented. And also really cute. I am happy to see him again.
For all the rest of the castmembers, their acting is on point and I am binging the drama.
Not at all what happened. She fled Prince Yue Qin. She married MRJH and became Princess. After those several years she died as Empress of great Yan.
I asked the question because some maids after she died refered to her as Empress. And she had to live to be crowned Empress. So this is not a sad ending at all. She survived at least 5 years after the first snow ( to harvest the antidote) , at most 15 years when MRJH died.
Little advice, you should not listen to what people say. You should make your own experience, because some people don't watch the show and comment only BS.
Or they watch the show fast-fowarding x2 without understanding anything, after that they dare to comment about what they don't know about.
They spread fake news.
I am amazed that, the antagonist Master Cui ShiJiu, despite being a one-dimensional character, is still playing the part of a SML. That beautiful woman impersonates a man. But she is impulsive and evil.
Moreover, the writer didn't bother to give her a woman's temper. She is all about arrogance and self publicity. Because she wants to be recognized by her father.
A woman, would never act like that. A woman would prioritize the success of the mission before any recognition.
She is a great actress at playing that part, but her character is a very simplistic SML type of character.
Normally No. Because, for a title to be bestowed, the recipient must accept the decree read by the eunuch. Thus, if there is no wife, then there is no title.
The answer is : Historically, the only posthumous title that can be bestowed is the title of Dowager. This title is bestowed by the new Emperor ( often the son of the late Emperor ).
So, a newly crowned widower can never bestow a title of Empress to his late wife. However, as a viewer pointed out , writers can do whatever they want in dramas, therefore a deceased Empress who cannot manage the Royale Household and thus the Royal Harem can exist in dramaland.
However, in "Kill Me Love Me" , the maids servants spoke about the late wife of the Emperor as the Empress. And the Emperor did not keep a harem. So historically, that situation would be accurate.
I was trying to understand the ending of a drama. Those directors are making the endings, more and more complex to let everybody free to believe whatever they want to. And often, that leads are dead. Because they LOVE sad endings. I wanted to know if the heroine survived.
Yes, she survived. But a lot of people think she died. *SMH*
Whereas she survived several years and it's a type of Happy Ending.
Mei Lin was alive after MRJH's coronation.
I wanted to understand the ending of "Kill Me Love Me".
To decypher the status of female lead on the last scenes.
Because she was addressed as Empress, so she received the decree.
When that puzzle hit me, I couldn't find an answer. But luckily we crossed path, thank you so much.
I don't know if you watched that drama. If not, don't worry, it is not a spoiler.
Dowagers are bestowed the title and the properties they will manage after the previous Emperor dies. But that's it.
A widower could not single handedly acknowledge his late wife, as Empress, after she died.
If maid servants call her Empress, then it means that she received a decree. So she was alive.
Thank you so much @Nunu T (^_^)