Gen Y (2020)

Sheesh

(Im going to rant, this review doesnt have any sort of structure lol, sorry, ill probaby edit this review once season 2 comes out) Honestly i was really invested in the story up until thanu and phai had that whole "psychic" thing happen between them. I thought the way their feelings had developed up until that point was so adorable but that part kind of ruined their story for me. Its obvious that thanuwayu and possibly phaisandee are gonna be end game next season. Also there is something about wayu's character (even wayo aswell in 2moons) that is just so annoying to me. I love bas, its not his fault but the way his character is written is just so insufferable and whiny, like he doesn't seem like an adult that can take care of himself, someone always has to be there to take care of him. Pok and that other swim kid have a pretty toxic story, i hope they clean it up a bit next season. MarkKit were the best part of this series, kimcop really reprised their roles and made them even better which really did 2moons some justice! Its a shame they kind of took a backseat half way through the story. (Side note: im not sure when jack started wayu lol, i feel like it came out of nowhere, hope jackKoh end up together, i miss matchmix)

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KitMark: 10 Stars. Show As Whole: 3 Stars Or Less.

For those who are here for romance, and are brazen enough to overlook everything and anything else: Look at my rating for Acting, Music or Rewatch value. For those who are here for a good series: Look at the Story rating. LOL

I have watched, and re-watched the KitMark line and completely ignored EVERYTHING else. And it's a 10 show for me (I didn't dare to put it in Overall rating, though:) I truly loved it, enjoyed every bit, even the little shots of interesting architecture in between the scenes. Kimmon & Copter reached perfect dynamics onscreen and they delivered perfectly, including details like tone of voice. It's a small story, it kinda goes from nowhere to nowhere and also suffers by the association with Wayu's (though I LOVED Mark&Wayu frienship) which is whiny and unwatchable from start to finish, and that's why you need to be extremely selective and ignore things left & right (like the "product placement" aka plain advertising that goes beyond borders of good taste). But, I even LOVED the music. There is the title song, which I enjoyed time & time again, I even enjoyed the re-caps because those also had it playing in the background:) I rarely enjoy title songs in little BLs like this. It's a simple song, but it gives a great vibe and feeling. Just tell this ISBANKY (whoever they are) thanx, it's perfect. The romantic song, called 'Rak Mai Mi Niyam' sung by the lead cast, was also great in setting the mood. I even loved the background music score, it was pretty simple and repeated over and over but it worked great.

Now, this "Star Hunter Entertainment" certainly has an arsenal of cute faces. There's so many in this little drama (perhaps except Wayu's old bf and the Gypsy Eyebrow they decided to pair him with, after). Someone obviously noticed even Junior & Kad interactions, and put the two together in 'Bad Roommate'... Though I still can't wrap my head around the cast being actually in some kind of a band together (that thing called sbfive) despite having seen couple of music videos on youtube... Especially Bas Suradej looked SO out of place in those for me... He is just this quiet and dorky BL male lead for me, LOL. His is such particular cuteness just perfect for BL. But, his character's line in 'Gen Y' immensely sucked, unfortunatelly. I quickly ceased to pay attention to it entirely, because having main plot revolving around this Someone-Without-A-Face is like the worst dramaturgy ever. So I focused on the KitMark line, where I quickly became happy: episode 2, episode 3 and episode 4, there was a KitMark kiss by the end of each episode;-)

So, I pretty much skipped everything and everyone except KitMark, enjoyed up to episode 10. I think blwatcher.com wrote good enough review:-) It summarized even all the things I was completely oblivious of, that's why I can tell you that I also ignored everything "Supernatural" that was apparently featured in this series. Else my rating would not be this nice. I seriously did not care which of the guys did Wayu meet first to be his destiny. His whole romance line was whiny and unwatchable since episode 1. All I can say about this "Pharawee" is: if the "leading" character was denied to us for 12 episodes, then in the end, let it STAY that way. In last epi, I didn't want him to show his face, lol.

From all what I've heard about the unwatachable Season 2, I marked it as "Not Interested". That's the only possible "rating" of 0 Stars shows.

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Not a worth to watch

One of the most suck BL in early 2021. I regret to watch the series because it ended yp with a cliff hanger and a lot of messed up things. Writer should prefessionally plot the story in a well manner.

That destiny things between Phai and Thanu was confusing me at first then yeah..i understood after tht. But in my opinian, putting tht mini theme inthe whole story between Phai, Thanu and Wayo was a huge mistake. It does merge well with the main plot.

I dont see why the title drama is Gen Y but the story line basically give more screentime on Mark and Kit at the beginning untill they officially became Bf (which is good). However they tried to sync the multiple couple in a bad way?

Move on to the part tht i like which was Mark Kit. These 2 couple are reasonable to give an applause. Even there were several suck and unecessary, they did a good job in potraying their characters. Pok and Tang also seems to be interesting to discover in the future second season.

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I liked it so much!!

overall, mine seem to be differing from most opinions here BUT I am going to stand by it. Gen Y is a really good show.
Very personal opinions, here we go.

# STORY: Normal series, romance only, no moral take-aways. WRITING at times is a mess.

✪ Minus side would be how haphazard the plot inclusive of WAYU is, almost as if the writer feels conflicted in every two episodes on which pair to go forward with. Not to mention new plot-twists were added in last couple of episodes. It was indeed bearable but almost amateur-ish move.

✪ On the plus side there are no major plot-holes, the subplots all relate to each other and despite having multiple supporting characters they are almost well managed.

✪ HUGE appreciation -
>> no non-consent being romanticized in any way (the few "physical" scenes were all within a safe gray zone imo), consent is unfailingly given importance.
>> they stayed away from "wife" tags for love interests / boyfriends
>> at the core characters are no pushovers,
>> there are no sexuality tag discussion - it was almost a pan-normative zone, and anyone could fall in love with anyone.

✪ Not only is it made in the right way, this was a naturally unproblematic show - it did not really bother to project the correctness. It was subtle and weaved into the nature of the show. Personally I appreciated the lack of implicit mocking of other series (even if they had it coming) to show how politically correct this series is- that is something few pretty good series had done, which made me slightly uneasy.




# ACTING: Kimmon-Copter just floored me with their acting, they were pure talent - I might have extra love for them after being rescued by their scenes after having to watch the other, stiff, couple. Hate to be criticizing a skill I do not possess but Dun and Bas just .. are not the best of actors. The engineering senior gang is also teeny bit awkward at times but again, way more natural. The high schooler gang was breath of fresh air, loved how they can bring the energy up.




# CHARACTERS/ COUPLES::

✪ MARK & KIT - Seriously sweetest dream couple. Realistically such a couple might not exist but then, that is the reason I watch dramas. They are patient, understanding, do not stress unnecessarily much on ego, and not to mention truckloads of sweetness and love - couldn't get enough. Personality wise, I cannot help but think how suitable these two are for each other. Mark is someone who can get to emotionally guarded person like Kit. And Kit does deserve the world. My favorite character indeed, wholesome, caring, understanding and mature - I just feel supportive and protective of everything he does <3

✪ WAYU - not been a fan of the actor himself but the character seems okay. Did not find him clingy or weepy or dull or depressing, he was simply a person who was deeply in love who got his heart broken.
THANU - again, not a fan of the acting, character being confused seems justifies to me though. Got no complains about his actions.
PHAI - sweet, and angelic character, the actor's looks almost suits that. Love how mature he is and pleasantly happy about the plot making two brothers have similar core characteristics!!!
SANDEE - confusing, but lowkey trusting him
TONG/POK - Surprised but sudden burst of chemistry, definitely second favorite couple!
KOH/JACK - probably 3rd favorite couple. And they are not even a couple :)

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Don't be fooled by the negative reviews !

So i don't really write reviews :) but i think i must this time .. it will be very short.

I don't know what's wrong with people with negative reviews. This series was literally one of the best BLS with great acting directory and chemistry. markkit was the cutest i can't explain in words. Their acting was really amazing. I enjoyed the whole show. So you must give it a try ! Then you can judge !


I need to add more words i guess so let's talk about wayu he is born cute u know that . And thanu who is paired with him in this series is just soo handsome their chemistry is wholesome. Not Just them u will enjoy the chaotic juniors too their naughty tricks will surely make you laugh. And every other couples in this series, i must say is awesome. They really did a very very very very good job. So that's it !


Watch it !!?

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Too much characters may be confusing.

Story / Plot and Cast: The series has a unique cast composition. There were the familiar faces, Kimmon (Mark), Copter (Kit), and Bas (Wayu). There were also a lot (I mean it) of supporting actors, so much that I still cannot fully match their faces with their name. This is very much because the drama series is catalysed by the end of the Superboy Project, in which candidates compete against each other as if in a talent show. The show ended in early 2020 or late 2019, which is a plausible timing. (In Superboy Project, 5 were the winner, namely Bank Thanathip, Bank Toranin, Pon, Kad, and Junior. All participants of the show starred in Gen Y The Series, there are 9 of them.) As I probably don’t need to tell you, the 3 protagonists are from SBFIVE, which was formed after the shooting of 2Moons. It is difficult not to correlate Gen Y with 2 Moons, given the fact that the 3 protagonists have similar or the same name as the characters. Notwithstanding the resemblance, let’s look at the characters:

Mark and Kit: Mark seems to be a playboy before he met Kit, and subsequently decided to wholeheartedly court Kit. Kit was apparently offended at first but slowly opened his heart for Mark. On the whole, I think there is little character development for Mark, given that he was the playful character all along. The change in Kit’s attitude towards Mark was not apparent, though fairly natural in the eyes of the audience, and might be traced to the scene where they rub their cheeks in the sushi shop. It might as well be said that the confession scene marks the turning point of their relationship. All along, Kit was defensive of his friend, Pharawee (Pha), and also the boyfriend of Kit’s close friend Wayu. Kit eventually paid more attention to himself and Mark, which eventually led to their happiness at last. It was all too familiar for us to see the faces of Mark (Kimmon) and Kit (Copter) after 2Moons, and they portrayed the character quite well, despite the resemblance to their relationship in 2Moons.

Wayu, Thanu, Jack, Koh, Phai, Sandee: Needless to say, this is a very complicated relationship. Wayu was ghosted by his boyfriend, Pharawee, back then. Thanu later returned to study and his relationship with Wayu grown gradually. Jack and Koh are both interested in Wayu. Phai seems to be interested in Thanu, but was turned down when Thanu confirmed his choice. Sandee sabotaged the events in the middle, occasionally, and cause disturbance in the process. Compared with 2Moons, Wayu (Bas) has been largely improved and does not only seem like a cry baby with little thinking. Thanu (Dun) feels like a telepath! Thanu repeatedly had scenes flashing in his head when he interacted with Wayu and Phai (Pon). Even though his “telepathy” with Wayu can justify the idea that they are the “true” pair, his telepathy with Phai is difficult to understand, and his response to Phai even more so. Phai and Sandee (Bank Thanathip) had interactions that are difficult to understand. We can only conclude that Phai is a selfless boy who wishes Thanu all the best with Wayu [really?]. Pon (Phai) is cute and innocent; Bank Thanathip (Sandee) is good-looking with some evil; Dun (Thanu) is charming; Jet (Jack) and Jame (Koh) are crazy lovers; all have lived up to my expectation and articulated with their character. All I could say is they could have more screen time in order for a better understanding of the relationship between them.

Padbok, Sab: Padbok is an impulsive playboy and Sab is a playful young boy which is going to enter university. They have few interactions and can hardly be called a “couple”. Their interactions are confined in the café that Sab worked in as an intern. There is, in fact, little to comment on their character, as their characters do not have a lot of special stuff. Padbok (Junior) is very eye-catching. Even though the character seems to contain only hate and impulsiveness, I must agree that Junior is charming. Sab (Kad) is playful and brings laughter always, and Kad also lived up to this standard. [They also played in another series, ‘Bad Roommate’, even though it has a TikTok format.]

Pok, Tong: Pok has an impulsive character and Tong is the near opposite of Pok. I have to admit that their interactions always leave me with question marks because sometimes it is difficult to understand. It is hard to decipher whether Pok has feelings for Tong, because 3 seconds after their interactions violence will kick in. What did Tong do exactly? Are his acts justifiable? Even if it is not, is Sandee’s sabotage (?) justifiable? A lot of questions are to be answered in Season 2 if there is one. Nonetheless, Pok (Bank Toranin) are handsome and Tong (Bonus) apparently would look better without the glasses!

Music: The music was OK. The opening theme, รักโดยไม่มีเหตุผล (Love without reason) by ISBANKY is like floating in mid-air. I was not able to find the ending theme, but it sounds too rock ‘n’ roll for me as an ending theme for a teenage love series. รักไม่มีนิยาม (Love has no definition) by Kimmon and Copter is also a nice song.

On a whole, the series was OK. Screen time distribution is an issue because there were too many characters, and it is difficult to keep up with so many “couples” (?) at once. If dealing with Mark and Kit at first and leave them in their world can help other characters to develop, then it is fine. Too many characters may confuse the audience at first, but eventually, stuff will clear up. The series ended in a cliff-hanger, and I am not in strong opposition to this, as long as there is actually a Season 2 to clear things up. Overall, the introduction of so many characters (the contestants, in fact) into a drama may be confusing at first.

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Bad play out for the chracters

To be honest, the first episode came off as boring. It was a turn off and I watched it half way several times before I started to commit to finishing it. Sure the storyline for the most part is good, but the way it plays out for some of the characters is really a shame.

1. Phai, Thanu, Sandee. Phai's meeting with Thanu should have never happened. It's heartbreaking for someone who hasn't experienced a relationship. Especially when both of them experienced the shock when they met at the riverbank, it was like they were meant to be. (Derived from the way Thanu kept thinking about Phai and even drew a portrait of him.) And after Phai and Thanu talked it out, he still has to deal with a jealous and cunning friend who probably likes him. Phai deserved better.

2. Padbok. Come on man, the amount of anger given to this character is unreal. Every time he comes on screen is just a violent mess. Really did not like the way he didn't at least have a character development in the first season. I'm hoping in the coming season he would be a better person.

3. Tong and Pok. Enemies to lovers (ETL) trope but with a horrible plot. They should have really given both of them a better story instead of having them be in whatever mess they are in right now.

4. Jew. Small support role but still crucial for scenes to relieve stress from main couples. I feel like they should have him be a couple with Yuki. Would have made it more interesting as it connects the 2 faculties and any drama (for instance Padbock being an ass to the Communication Arts students) would have been more interesting than seeing him beat up Thanu and people who protect Thanu.

5. Jack and Koh. They seem like relationship tools that everyone uses for their benefit. They truly deserve a story on their own seeing as to how their relationship has played out.

As for casting, it's really good, but there could be some changes to have a more impactful cast.

Music wise; OST isn't great, BGM for scenes are okay but kind of repetitive. Makes it super annoying.

Rewatch value: I would probably only rewatch it because of Mark and Kit, otherwise no.

Edit: Added point 5.

#MarkKitSupremacy

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Interesting Soap Opera

This series has an interesting start and a good over all storyline, but lacks execution. From the start it was interesting, but then you are introduced to way to many characters at different periods in the life and starts to get confusing and hard to keep up with way to many stories. I have to say I found my self loving the support cast more then the main cast. The actors for the most part are good, but the character development is very lacking with little growth for some and a lot of plot holes that don't really get resolved even with it being the first season.

The bad: I have to say I hate the character of Wayu and found him to be the most annoying in the whole series, not sure if it's the way they wrote him or the I am not a fan of the actor but it just felt a annoying whenever he showed up. The supernatural part was a great idea, but horribly done and did not continue throughout the series, that made no sense. The storyline did not always make sense and there were a lot of missing gaps in the story. I was a bit annoyed at Kit character for taking forever in dealing with his feelings and always putting his friends issues first and putting his love life last which made Mark suffer in ways he did not deserve. The worst pairing was Wayu and Thanu, no chemistry and looked bad together. I found my self skipping every most Wayu was in as he bored me.

The good: I loved Mark, Thanu, Sandee, Phai, Pok and Thong. The liked that the villains are not true villains but people who were really misunderstood by actions. Padbok and Sandee were great bad boys in the own way for different reasons but it worked. Love seeing Tong and Pok and they should have been the main stars for relationship wise. Thanu would have ended up with Phai .. they had a much better chemistry together.

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Fanfiction should always be a "fan" fiction

Gen Y was written by Liu Lijun. I think StarHunter wanted to piss off ChiffonCake with this. What they did with the names and character description is just like asking for trouble. StarHunter can actually get sued for this. The possibility of being persecuted for it is low but it will again cause damage to the boys. It is like they went on war against Motive Village and put the boys on the line of fire. This can have serious repercussions that's why a handful of Bas,Kim and Copter fans were reaching out to StarHunter to reevaluate the direction they want to go to. They can express hate against Chiffon all they want but stealing her work like this is unjustifiable. Again, they could have created a good story but decided to use those names like deliberately taunting Chiffon. I love the original novels Fanfiction should always be a "fan" fiction, and thus any form of its commercialization would be illegal. This is a big issue, and a violation of intelligence properties.
I am going to be against this production (Not the actors)

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why you don't focus on MarkKit?

I am sorry to say that but the first thing that I expect watching this drama is how Mark-Kit bound their relationship detached from WayuPha stories. From episode 1 until 7 I am so enjoy watching how Mark fight for his feeling to Kit. But after that I don't enjoy it. It would be nice if in this film tell us more about Mark feel in love with the firm Kit who doesn't like Mark at the first. The delivery on how Kit could accept Mark feeling is lack here. I think the writer must notice that. It's okay brings Thanu in this story is good idea but it doesn't make sense if he was doubtful on his feeling. It just made feel bad about Wayu and turn out this story focus on Thanu-Wayu-Pha story. Poorly, Thanu's acting here is very stiff compared to others. Last, funny things happend the cast play role Pha just appear at the end. But maybe it just gimmick at the first to increase the audience's curiosity who will play Pha. I hope Gen Y season 2 more brings Mark-Kit stories

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Too many characters, not enough good ones

Honestly, I don’t even know where to start. Gen Y has many problems in my opinion, but I’d say the biggest one is Gen Y 2. The fact that the series was planned with a follow up in mind creates a big issue of inflating the season with too many characters and side stories, with minimal payoff.

The first half of the series was focused on the university, which was ok. Mark and Kit are obviously the best part. But unfortunately they have to share much of the screen time with literally the human equivalent of watching paint dry, Wayu. Wayu’s whole personally is that he had a boyfriend and doesn’t have one anymore. There are 12 episodes of Gen Y and not once have we learned anything about Wayu’s interests or anything that would make him interesting. We just know that he likes to cry and that his dad is rich. The university portion had a few side characters that helped a bit, like Jew, Jack and Koh, and the people from the Communications Arts. Padbok was almost as one note as Wayu. He was angry all the time for no reason and I don’t understand why he has friends. He flirts and then tries to beat everybody. Sab was fun and during the first half of the show his friends didn’t bother me much.

On the other hand, the second half of Gen Y was a train wreck. It truly looks like a different show, even the characters look physically different. Simply looking as a character, Thanu was not the worse. The problem is that most of the things about him are unexplained during his time on the show, or are simply the worst part, aka the “destiny” portion of the show. While destiny was a concept we heard the high schoolers mentioning, when talking about love in the cafe, it was okay. It’s typical BL material. But, the fact that this show turned into premonitions and visions of the future because of destiny was the worst turn I could have imagined. To be far, the introduction of more high schoolers and, with that, the amount of screen time they got was already bad. Sandee joined Padbok in the group of characters with no apparent motivation for doing what they do. Is he the god of destiny? I would not put that as impossible at this point. Pok and Tong started as a potentially interesting jock/nerd dynamic but ended up just being the couple with the steamy scenes. Their love/hate + lust relationship really doesn’t work for me. Phai is very boring in my opinion and it doesn’t help him that his whole story if the destiny subplot.

Gen Y doesn’t work, in my opinion, because it cannot stand on it’s own as a complete show. It doesn’t even really delivers as a season 1. At this point, I don’t even care about the answer to the unanswered questions, like what happened between Padbok and Thanu or why did Pha leave/came back. The team behind this show was smart on focusing so much on Mark and Kit early on, so people would keep watching to at least know what happened to the couple.

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The Road to Love is Paved with Good Intentions

I'm a little late to the party, but after finishing the series for the first time I wanted to express my thoughts on the content.

With a total of 12 episodes airing in the Gen Y series, viewers were given a handful of lovable characters, some less than desirable characters, and a basic plot line to guide them through the show. Season 1 focused on the relationship between Mark and Kit, two very different characters that were destined to become our favorite ship.

Mark and Kit are one of those couples who are constantly drawing you in with their soft bickering and comedic interactions. The two characters are literal polar opposites when it comes to their personality quirks and yet, they still manage to be a compatible pair. I found their story to be funny and refreshing contrary to some of the other more heartbreaking stories in the series. The only downside to this ship is that it felt like towards the end, once they got their "happy ending", they got downgraded to secondary characters.

Speaking of secondary characters, there were quite a few of them and I as a viewer inevitably became overwhelmed with the crossover in stories and suggested love triangles.

Wayu's story was particularly difficult to watch because of the ambiguous breakup and misdirection that we had to watch the character go through. I had hoped that the introduction of Thanu would be a stepping stone to another solid relationship in the series, but the addition of a third party (Phai) made it hard to connect to one ship or the other. For a while it was uncertain who Thanu would inevitably choose and once he made a decision, all of the build up leading up to the finale came crashing down with Pha's return. That specific story line was too inconclusive for my liking and I could've done without it and all the tears.

Overall, the story of Mark and Kit, which was sweet and funny, made the series worth watching to me as a viewer. I was slightly disinterested in the secondary plot lines simply because they felt underdeveloped or confusing and took away from the main plot. The acting was on par and the reprisal of some of our favorite characters from 2 Moons was a pleasant surprise to me.

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