Novel Fans and Donghua Fans Sanctuary

 Euphoria:

I'm talking about the cool and composed part mainly (main reason i hate the adpatation cuz drama guy reminds me of deku (who i hate with a passion(stupid crybaby out of my face))

I don't understand the 'deku' reference. 

It is a pity that visual mediums favor expressive characters. The more 'still' (as in still waters run deep) characters tend to get misunderstood by the greater audiences who seem to expect that all the characters feelings or philosophies will be spelt out for them via the character's face and words, rather than paying attention to the characters actions. But then I suppose that's true to life as well.

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Had to add - favorite moment in the anime, when young TS is trying to enter the beginner school gates and is about to fall back on his Tang Sect training and beat the gatekeeper to kingdom come. Such a serious trained attacking stance from a little kid. The juxtaposition is hilarious.

 Major:

In fact, I've fallen so far behind

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You've reminded me I have to find some time and get around to finishing Legend of Fei, lol.

Lol, ok wow, this thread sure has moved. I think we all need to chill and take a break from the increasingly personal attacks. This is still a thread aimed for open discussion and like some of the others have said, let's not have this place become another main page. 

That being said, we'll have to agree to disagree @Katie. Since S2 isn't out yet, I can only judge based on what I see at hand and at 33 episodes, with only 7 to go before conclusion, I think (for me anyway) Wang Juan's failed. I don't see how he can turn this ship back on track. For me, any adaption of any work doesn't need to be true to the story 100% or even 80%, it just needs to manage to translate whatever made the original story magical onto whatever. medium it's being translated to. In this case, he hasn't manage to make Douluo special in any way. It's an average fantasy drama at best because he's written out a majority of what made it so good. Again, to each their own. This could still be an enjoyable drama for some to watch but purely as an adaptation, it falls short of the mark. 

(Also, lol Erlong is so disappointing in this but then again, ALL the fight scenes are disappointing in this. They've powered the Titled Douluos down so much and there's barely any ass kicking involved.)

This back and forth seems tiring but I don't get this thing about waiting till the end before criticizing something. 

You should feel free to judge shows whenever you personally want, but I think it's absolutely fine to judge something if not on the first episode, then at least by episode 10 or so. DC could have the most amazeballs finale episode of all time and it'd still be a pretty mediocre show because 1 amazeballs episode doesn't revive 39 mediocre episodes. 

If I read a book and the first few chapters are dogshit I'm done with the book and feel absolutely fine about leaving a negative review. 

 Euphoria:

Deku, the overrated crybaby who have to cry every single chapter at least once. correct me if i'm wrong. I'm not shading or dissing cuz it's the truth i've read the manga (Deku fans better not attack me cuz I have more than a dozen arguments on my mind) (dont ask why i even read it in the first place, I got influenced by the overhype (so another thing, overhyped)

I would honestly like to ask you, what's the problem with crying? Why is it that a protagonist of a shounen manga cannot cry and be emotional? Crying isn't ALL Deku does, he is also an incredibly powerful hero that fights to protect the weak and doesn't just sit on his ass waiting for someone to save him. I truly don't understand why we're still stuck in this mindset that boys aren't supposed to cry. And FYI he hasn't been a crybaby in the last hundred or so chapters, he's been busy fighting AFO/Shigaraki. Whether the manga is overrated, that's a difference of opinions so I won't argue with you on that. Also, lol they're all KIDS at the start of the manga so IDK what kid you know doesn't cry when he gets bullied. 

 Major:

I don't even see how they can practically adapt a S2, especially if it's to be anything like the novel.  The Sea God Trials, 6 more rings on Blue Silver Grass, all the rings for the CS Hammer, the HUGE battle between the empires...OMG it would be a budget busting CGI nightmare LOL.  Too bad because the second half is where 80% of the power-ups and action resides.  I have my issues with it, but I think most of the people who are new to DD are going to leave feeling thirsty.  Ending it with any sense of satisfaction will be quite the feat given how much time they wasted at the beginning..

I think maybe why they separated the seasons is to bet on there being enough sponsors/interest in S2 to up their CGI budget because I've worked out that the main reason Oscar & Rong Rong fight with their contraptions is probably to save on some of the CGI budgeting with using plain old smoke and explosions, lol (and it shows the whole supports can fight too etc etc). They cut out most of the footage of them training to get their soul rings to save on the CGI for the beasts so I don't think realistically, they can afford Sea Gods arc unless they massively, massively cut it out or IDK, make the beasts the size of a piranha (I'm exaggerating lol). 

 Singularity:

This back and forth seems tiring but I don't get this thing about waiting till the end before criticizing something.

I believe the argument being, sometimes one's criticisms can end up being invalidated by events later in the work, if said criticism is based on a directional assumption, another adaptation, etc.  I've definitely had it happen to me--where a wholly unexpected twist or new info is used to cover its ass--which basically emasculated my seemingly good arguments.  But that doesn't mean early criticism is always wrong either--especially when they target the central premise or when a screenwriter, in all his wisdom, paints himself into a logical corner.  I'm happy to see that most of my arguments are still entirely unimpeachable for burning this adaptation down LOL.