Episode 3 Discussion *SPOILERS*

I thought it was a really good episode, and there's scenes in the drama where I think it's good to see what other's think. 

I think a lot are discussing online on the shower scene, but there's another scene  that's also important. Towards the end of the episode, Type and No are approached by two seniors who want to take pictures of Type to post online for a fan page. I personally felt that they were invading his personal space, as it was his choice to let his pictures go online or not.  They also went ahead and touched him and then Type went off the two by calling out slurs which was inappropriate. Both sides need to apologize to each other haha. I also wonder whether Thai culture gets involved in this - in terms of personal space  and displaying affection? 

The contrast in how Type and Tar have gone through their ordeal - Poor Tar, it was hard to watch him go by the day since fear has over run him. Type on the other hand although it also holds fear, he also displays hate towards anyone who is gay. Thought this was something that was important to note, since victims of abuse go through it differently. 

As for the shower scene, I interpreted that as him almost coming to terms that he is physically attracted to Tharn. At this point he knows that Tharn is a good person, and feels guilty hating on him.  It's pretty interesting in that he let Tharn touch him and more +, but later on with the seniors a grab on the shoulder was too much. Type has some conflicting opinions haha. 

I'm loving the Kpop guy and his roomie, their scenes are quite funny.  One is a complete busy body and the other is carefree lol. 

And Tharn's friend, can't remember his name its the one with an earring. Does he like Tharn?? Or is that type of friend who is affectionate?

What are your thoughts on episode 3 so far? 

 Pincolino:

The percentage of gay/trans people isn't that high either in our society, but I guess in Thailand there are different numbers. While I appreciate that they portray the LGBTQ community in a rather bad light (because let's be honest, there are a lot of people in the community who have lost any sense of reason, like trans people arguing you're transphobic when you don't want to date them, the whole community is rather toxic), it's a risky move. I just don't know what this is all about.

I don't agree with you there. I rather have them not have such stereotypical gays but in Thai BL this is often the case: they like to show the contrast between the very masculine, almost straight gay men that are the leading men in the BL drama, and some other minor character who conforms to all the effeminate stereotypes.

 Pincolino:

I understand what the author is trying to say: Tharn's touch is "special".

Maybe, or maybe it is as simple as the fact that Tharn is seeking physical closeness because he loves and admires Type, not because he wants to use him. This leads Type to seek the affection and to realize that being physically intimate with another man can be a pleasurable experience IF HE IS a willing participant.

I actually hope that this drama has more to say about consent and love. I await the next episode.

After they showed us that Type had past trauma and all that , I thought that would have been addressed before they got sexual together.  I found it weird that he was okay with the shower scene , I expected more resistance . I thought that was too quick.

 Thandy :

After they showed us that Type had past trauma and all that , I thought that would have been addressed before they got sexual together.  I found it weird that he was okay with the shower scene , I expected more resistance . I thought that was too quick.

Months have past, I think they should have made it clearer but yeah time progressed

Other openly gay Thai actors  in BL series are Newyear--who is the main role in I am Your King, which Mew was also part of the cast in the supporting role-- and then Porch who portrayed the role of Bright in Together with Me and Together With Me Next chapter where Max and Tul are the main roles. That's why I am more supportive of those BL shows  than other shows with ambiguous actors. And of course, there's the WTD, in which we first saw Mew with very titillating scenes with his partner.

 reefpicker:

In the future, there could be a subgenera of BL for gay men viewers (and maybe lesbian viewers too!)  :)

It's the same with Japanese manga. There is a lot of BL and Yaoi stuff out there, obviously written BY women FOR women. As far as I know all BL novels those BL series are based off are written by women. Together With Me, Addicted/Heroin, Dark Blue Kiss, Tharntype, Yandaixie Street no. 10 and many more. There is stuff from men for men too, but it's veeeeery different. I personally enjoy both, but well, the BL genre will always be something that's mostly done for heterosexual women. 

Also most lesbian works are written by men. It's a fetish thing too. That's the reason why I don't enjoy them much. Double standards, I know. I would go wild for lesbian stories if women would write them. But they don't. 

 Pincolino:

I would go wild for lesbian stories if women would write them. But they don't.

The L word? I think it was directed/written by a lesbian women!

This is interesting. I find the BL stories to be sweet, like a fairy tale. Its like I soooo wish that gay life was like this... That my heterosexual friends in HS were so accepting as they are of Noh and Phun in Friday College (well, in that school "heterosexual" is a relative term), or that my how-we-met story with my husband was as sweet as Arthit's and Kongpob in SOTUS, or that sex was as clean and sweet as it is shown in MIR (well, not with Book and Frame but with Tee and Fuse!).

(What do I find most incredolous about these stories? It is usually the sex part and the physical stuff. Like when you first kiss a guy and you have never kissed, it is such a thrill, you just don't want to let go. Or the first time you have sex with another men, there is so much you are dealing with in your head and your body that omg, I could do a whole post about that. Not a single BL I have watched has gotten it right. The closest would probably be MIR in how Book seemed to have felt the night after having sex with Frame)

It is very patently obvious to me that what I am watching is a fantasy written by someone who has no idea what real gay people go through. But it is a sweet, innocent fantasy so I am OK with it.

 reefpicker:

This is interesting. I find the BL stories to be sweet, like a fairy tale. Its like I soooo wish that gay life was like this... That my heterosexual friends in HS were so accepting as they are of Noh and Phun in Friday College (well, in that school "heterosexual" is a relative term), or that my how-we-met story with my husband was as sweet as Arthit's and Kongpob in SOTUS, or that sex was as clean and sweet as it is shown in MIR (well, not with Book and Frame but with Tee and Fuse!).

And that's why I find MaxTul's series to be more realistic(despite some farce contents) than other BL dramas. I find SOTUS to be magical though but it was too remote to be true. That's why it's more of a fantasy than reality. But it is not to say that it can't happen to young gay people. It's just that many gay people are more pragmatic considering the challenges they have to face with their lives. 

And there's where I feel like many of these straight women who are BL fans can't really understand the term "consent" in the gay world. This is where I blame certain BL dramas where they portray gay relationships to be too similar with heterosexual relationships. Like damn, many gay people are too closeted  that they needed to be pushed to really get what they want for them to realize that it's really what they wanted.