Honest Swan

It has been for a long time. Just admit it just like Ji Yun, you're doomed.

I do need a kiss. Good, now you made me depressed.

If the ML has feelings for her, I can assure you he doesn't know it. Probably because in south Korea being divorced and having a child makes you less attractive for dating. So he possibly feels he is not good enough for her just like how the FLs friend said. So he knows better than to get greedy and entertain any romantic thoughts with her. Plus, she is his boss so imagine how uncomfortable he would feel just to have those thoughts. But all this time we have been seeing the FLs POV. So maybe when we get the MLs POV, we might see that the situation might have been different than we expected.

Why did Ji Yun's friend say that she is too good for him? Or is it because he has a child. She seemed she wouldn't entertain the idea of them getting together.

I could relate when she said that. Like its when you know you like someone and no amount of denying can make you get out of that situation.

Sorry, I am not gay like you😂. Why would I even want to date you? You're not all that, so give yourself a break.
Anyway, have a lovely evening. I don't want to be contracted gayness by talking to you further.

Whatever makes your boat float, cat-lady.
You sound like a closeted gay. You don't like men and you can't admit that to yourself and family members. I understand though. Its hard to be yourself. But the sooner you learn that you're gay and accept it, the better for you. Don't mask it as being bisexual. You don't look it or sound like one.

Ooow, I see where you are coming from. You're talking about the way he talks. He is just blunt. Its not something he can change overnight. I mean if its something you don't like, I don't see you liking him anytime soon. Dex attributed it to being from the army (UDT). He said they are always rough around the edges and unsophisticated. Its like they cant read social cues. Jun Seo is just direct and blunt. Some people might find it interesting, others won't. Its just a matter of preference.
You Jin tried to make him jealous during the campfire but because of how blunt and direct he is, that made him lose interest in her. He doesn't like to have to guess someone's feelings or playing hard to get.
People like him see the world in two ways. Something is good or bad. He can't really read into people's feelings that well. Da Hee didn't say he was rude, she said his way of speaking, especially to a girlfriend may turn her off. And Dex added that his way of speaking is normally how guys speak to each other. I think they gave an example of eating. Like how you tell your girlfriend that she should eat. Two people can be saying the same thing but there are nuances. Girls like it gentle and sweet.
Da Hee was just saying how you say something to a girl is important and not what you say.
I just guess Jun Seo has stayed with guys a little too long that he doesn't know how to be sweet to a girl. I can't really say that is rude. OR you could say he is unintentionally rude, if that's a word. I am saying it like that because his way of speaking doesn't come with bad intention, its something to do with his personality. He just needs to have a filter in his mouth. Know how to say something and when to say it. People may see this as his charm others won't and there is nothing wrong about it.
And yes, I found the scene to be funny and not really embarrassing. I guess its about perception. I don't know, did you think that was embarrassing? I just thought its something you do while drunk and its dumb and people tell you in the morning and you guys laugh about it. As your friend/acquaintance, I see it as funny and maybe a little cute if you're someone who is collected when you're sober. I will see it as the new side of you. But on your side, you will feel embarrassed of course. But its just some drunk shit you did so you shouldn't beat yourself too hard about it.
However, what is not cute and bad is saying bad or hurtful things while you're drunk. Like in the case of Jeong-Su, I think that's harder for him to come back from than what You Jin did when she was drunk. He made the girls he was interested in confused by his words and I thought that to be way worse than what You Jin did.

I must have missed that. Even Da Hee calling him rude? I didn't see any of that. I am just going to respect your opinion on this one. When you see someone as a villain or bad, its hard to change that mindset on someone no matter how much I try. Also, You Jin was my favorite at the beginning. I haven't lost hope on her yet. But I just couldn't see how it was Jun Seo's fault. Based on your comment, all I can say I do get drunk sometimes too. And I can do some dumb shit when I am drunk. Heck, my friends do too. The actions are dumb but we can laugh at each other but its only because its funny and not to mock each other. Her on the swing might have seemed funny. I didn't see him laugh but I am just going to take your word for it. You Jin wasn't like in pain or dying that she would warrant sympathy from people.

Also, am I the only one who thinks the swing incidence wasn't embarrassing as people make it seem to be. I mean I am gonna blame the panel on this one. They made the scene look embarrassing than it should be and people have bought that narrative. I mean I agree with the girl who said she seemed to be having fun. It may have looked weird because she was all alone on the swing and screaming. Her scream showed how much fun she was having and it wasn't in a weird way. But being alone and having fun doing your own thing shouldn't make feel embarrassed for you. OR maybe I share the same brain cell as You Jin because I saw her actions quite fun. And maybe I would have laughed too if I was there because I don't see it in a negative way.
Those are just my thoughts. Feel free to disagree.

Yeah, I am really bored. Thank you for spicing things up for me.
Now, I have come to the conclusion that you shouldn't date even girls. You should just stay forever ALONE. You look triggered. Did I touch a nerve? You seem like an insecure individual who is emotional and really reactive. You will be a pain to either a man or woman. So consider just dying alone in a nursing home.
You look like a cat-lady type that get ignored by people all her life just by how unattractive her personality is.
If you want to take the route of insults, well I am willing to offer you that. I will rephrase, you are just a nasty bitch who judges people a lot because you don't have something going on in your life. So you just hate people overall. Have a good day, cat-lady.

Its okay, if you can do a better job. I see you are triggered.

Why everyone mad at Jun Seo? I mean everyone has something to say about him. I don't get it, where did he bully You Jin? People are saying he talked behind her back. You know talking behind someone means to actually badmouth them. But I am replaying the scene, I can only see him saying that he lost all interest in You Jin due to how he saw she was behaving at the campfire. He didn't exactly say what it was. He just said that he thought he knew her after going to the paradise but turns out he didn't after that campfire.
I mean he just shared his honest feelings. Is that so bad? He didn't exactly like list bad character traits about her. Also, don't every member share their honest feelings with each other? Don't they sit together and tell each other who they think they are attracted to or not? Does that count as bullying?
Also, didn't You Jin just bruise Jun Seo's ego during that campfire? Her attitude during the campfire where she would joke around with Theo, I believe, would hurt him since he was interested in her. I think she wanted to show a good chemistry with Theo but in the process he might have felt ignored and hurt. He was so bothered by that , that he had to ask if they had feelings for each other. Though, they denied, he didn't believe them. That shows when he left them at the campfire, he has already decided to move on.

Now about the swing, how is it his fault? I also didn't see him laugh or smile. He was just embarrassed for her. In such situation, I thought it would have been better if a girl intervened because You Jin wasn't in danger, she was messing around which could possibly hurt her chances of getting someone. If a man intervenes, its as if you're telling her how to behave. That doesn't sound nice, does it? You're not her man, brother or father. They are not even friends, they haven't even known each other more than 3 days.

Also, I think its better if he just shares his honest feelings with the girls as opposed to the men. The girls can't do anything. Okay, I am wrong, they can gossip about it. But I was thinking that she won't look bad in front of the men. Its just the girls who I don't think can use that to hurt her. And what exactly is bad, that he lost interest? That is not news. Si an also lost interest on the guy the went to the paradise on the first day and its okay. Everyone loses interest at one point.
Also, I think the girls can talk with each other and she will know that Jun Seo lost interest so she can move on too.

Let me know what you think. I just think people are blowing things out of proportion just because their favorite member isn't so favorite anymore. That's okay but don't smear dirt on the other members just because of it.

Now, having addressed that, I am going to answer you in relation to your comment. The reason I replied to your comment that way its because you sounded dismissive and arrogant. Now imagine if I made a similar comment and said that most girls/women this season are giving me the icks and I don't like them.
Actually, I hadn't looked in your bio. So you're actually bi? I mean that's what I got from your comment. That you don't like men. Its not about worshipping them or anything. Instead of maybe attacking their personalities or anything related to their physical attributes, I heard you mention ick and not liking them and I could immediately understand that you're not really attracted to men.
I am sorry if that offended you. You may be bi but you're not exactly leaning on male. You're attracted more to the women and its perfectly fine. I am just judging based on your comment. I know nothing about your life.
As someone who is straight, I don't say the opposite gender has an ick, especially if its generalizing. I really respect both genders. I think this is something that you can resonate with especially since you're bi. Bi people are so embracing. Most bi people I have met say they value the connection they create with you whether you're a woman or man. That's how I know they're not 'judgey' or strong opinionated like you are. Its not wrong if you are, it means I haven't met all of you and its a wrong stereotype I have.

Hope that helps!

Oh, fantastic. Now, you wanna help me on my work. Isn't that great!
I mean what you said has an opposite effect to me. Its actually consoling that you're trying to make my life less miserable.
However, I have suggestion, please don't just give me money. I want to work for it. So that would help. Thank you for actually highlighting what really matters to me---that's my job.

On a serious note, I don't actually feel insulted. So incase of any work that would help my life feel any less miserable than I am right now, I would greatly appreciate. Anyway, here is my email: [email protected]. Kindly, reach out. I hope you were not joking on that part.

To be fair on him, everyone is there to promote themselves. No one has dated outside these Korean shows. I only know one couple that still date to this day and its only Love Catcher, I believe season 2. My Sibling's Romance is just too recent to make a judgement but they did produce a couple that is still strong today. The rest of the dating shows, about95% don't even get out of the show as a couple. They choose each other yes but ignore each other once the show ends. Like a perfect example is the season 2 of this show, Seulki chose Jong Woo but she ignored him after the show. And the reason they all provide is that they get busy after the show and it become difficult to accommodate each other.

If you need a show that has no clout, just try I AM SOLO. I think because they don't use their real names makes it hard to promote themselves. The rest of the shows are just for clout. They even get paid for appearing in them.

I just think that getting drunk was a disservice for him and You Jin. They first impression was entirely damaged. I don't know if anyone would still be interested in them after that campfire.

Exactly, everyone here looks like commercial models and bunch of clout chasers who want to get attention from the mass population. Now, I just feel everyone will only flirt just to show how popular they are and not to actually get into a relationship.

I think girls get each other. So they should have at least tried to help one of their own. Because that scene really hurts You Jin chances. But I have a feeling she will do okay. Okay, I am hoping she does. I loved her at first because she has a bubbly and positive image but maybe the drunk scene may have portrayed her differently which may not be accurate. But guys may buy that, which is not good.

I think you should just drop it. Or at least stick to just dating girls. Men are not for you. You will end up hurting yourself when its not your fault. Men are just not your taste. And in the world we live in, its become okay to date your own gender. Good Luck finding a good girl!

They're not friends. They barely know each other for 3 days. Also, its about interest. They might have thought they wouldn't want someone who goes off when they get drunk. Also, she was acting out of character not that she was breaking down, or couldn't walk. If its like that, you definitely need to help them. She just acted stupid that's all. Not only her, even the guy who Si an was interested acted stupid when he got drunk.
Also, in my opinion, I think the girls should have been the one who should have told her to take it down a little bit. Especially, when she was in the swing. The girls should have known how embarrassing it is especially if the men saw that. They should have taken care of her but again they haven't even known each other more than 3 days, so I can't blame them because its not like an emergency situation.
From their perspective, I think the guys just don't want to handle a person who breaks loose when they're drunk after they start dating. So it mostly takes away her charms.
Since everyone is new to each other, any action you do create a first impression about you. You may not be like that in most cases but the people you meet for the first time will always have that image about you.