well pheem does say “the engine hasn’t started” and also “got anything to help with it” so idk if we…
I get that you didn’t call anyone “stupid” directly, but your sarcastic comment does come across as implying it. Suggesting that producers think viewers have a low IQ, and then saying “judging by some comments they’re correct” is still insulting. People are allowed to share their opinions, even if you don’t agree, without being mocked or belittled. We’re all entitled to our own interpretations and opinions about a show, that’s literally the point of having a discussion thread. You might disagree with certain takes, but resorting to insults doesn’t make your argument stronger, it just shuts down conversation. Disagreeing is fine, but belittling others for sharing their perspective crosses the line.
Can you tell me which timestamp you’re referring to? I thought he was drugged, so he wasn’t himself.
I agree with you. In episode 1, Than already had his eyes on Pheem when he walked out wearing his robe. Then in episode 2, there were so many hints, Pheem clearly wanted the intimate moment on the sofa, the office scene carried the same tension, and you were right about the car scene when they talked about having sex. It’s pretty clear that both of them are into each other.
With the scene of the little boys, are they implying that the one who saved Pheem is Than?
Glad I’m not the only one. We already have three airing right now, ABO Desire (China BL), Secret Lover (Taiwan BL), so I won’t be surprised if they also go down the childhood trope route.
Can you tell me which timestamp you’re referring to? I thought he was drugged, so he wasn’t himself.
I get your point, but at the end of the day, regardless of whether it was fentanyl or another drug, he was still drugged and not in control of himself. That’s the key point. Also, let’s not forget this is a fictional story, not a medical documentary. Sometimes directors or writers don’t research every detail perfectly, they’re using “a drug” as a plot device to move the story along, not to give us a pharmacology lesson.
If we start nitpicking every scene to perfectly mirror real life, a lot of dramas would lose their charm. BLs often show high school students living alone in luxury apartments, or characters walking away from car crashes with barely a scratch. Some even survive knife wounds or gunshots with nothing more than a quick bandage. None of that is realistic or medically accurate, but just like the fentanyl example, it’s not about being 100% medically right, it’s about serving the story and keeping the drama engaging.
So, while it might not be scientifically accurate that fentanyl has that effect, the narrative purpose was clear: he was impaired, vulnerable, and not fully himself. That’s what mattered for the scene and the emotional weight it carried.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this. When Chet asked for the drugs, his bodyguard hesitated because he genuinely cared for him. If it were just any bodyguard, he would have obeyed immediately, but their chemistry and bond made him resist, he didn’t want the drugs to harm Chet. It’s interesting too that both brothers will end up falling in love with their bodyguard.
There’s a big difference between the cut and uncut versions. The cut version is 48 minutes and 2 seconds long,…
That’s exactly why I always stick to the uncut version. The cut ones ruin the flow and sometimes skip important moments. iQIYI thankfully has the full version. Not just this BL but others as well, they don’t only cut NC scenes, they also remove meaningful scenes that add depth to the story.
They seem like they’re married, they just give me this vibe. You can tell that they know each other for a long…
If you haven’t already, I really recommend watching Century of Love and Love in Translation. Honestly, the couple in these two shows are my absolute favorite.
Really, I see it differently. In the last episode, Pin witnessed the undeniable spark between Prince and Sasin. Her heart must have whispered the truth, that he felt nothing for her and yet she pressed forward with the wedding. She even admitted it herself: “Let’s just marry first, and perhaps feelings will come later.” But how can love bloom when the soil is already claimed by another? She knew, deep down, that Prince and Sasin belonged to one another. She could have stepped away at any moment; even Sasin, her own cousin, warned her. And still, she chose the path of pain. In the trailer, we see the wound she will bear. That is the cruel beauty of a love triangle, one heart pretending hope, while another shatters in silence.
How ironic. For those who remember To Sir, With Love, the main lead Thian had the best brother, Yang. He was caring, supportive, and protective, the kind of brother anyone would wish for. Many even said that their bond was the true highlight of that BL. And now, the same actor, Tongtong, plays Chet in this series… the complete opposite. Instead of love, we see cruelty. Chet tried to murder his own brother Pheem. As children, he even locked Pheem in a dark room, leaving scars of trauma that followed him into adulthood. It’s such a stark contrast, watching the same actor embody the “best brother” in one story and the “worst brother” in another. Tongtong’s versatility shines, and I’m honestly loving this series even more because of it.
Wow… episode 15 was so good. In the beginning, when Hua Yong stood beside Sheng Shao You, their bond was built on lies and manipulation. Sheng Shao You trusted every word, blind to the shadows beneath them. But when Hua Yong finally revealed the truth that he was an Enigma, that all he had ever wanted was to share a child together, Sheng Shao You could not believe him.
And yet, in episode 15, the impossible became undeniable. Sheng Shao You’s pregnancy shattered his world in an instant. Shock, fear, and disbelief tangled inside him, while Hua Yong could only watch in silence, guilt carved into his face, but also a quiet, aching satisfaction. For this was the moment he had waited for since he was sixteen. Long before their future was real, he had already chosen the name of their child, Hua Sheng, tenderly called Peanut. Their entire tomorrow had lived inside him for years, waiting for this fragile bloom of life.
The hospital scenes left me undone, the way they cared for each other, the way every look carried unspoken promises. I cannot wait to meet their Peanut in the next episode, yet the sweetness already carries a trace of sorrow, knowing how little time remains.
And then, our second couple… Shen WenLang, so careless with his words, never realizing how deep they cut. When Gao Tu asked what he would do if an Omega carried his child, WenLang’s answer fell like a blade: he would never want it, he never liked children. For Gao Tu, already carrying that fragile truth inside him, it was like living between two worlds. One filled with joy and hope, the other with fear and loneliness. So he left. Not because he was weak, but because he had to protect himself and the tiny heartbeat within him.
Episode 15 showed us the silence left behind. Shen WenLang reaching out again and again, haunted by memories, crushed by absence. Sometimes you don’t know the weight of love until it slips away. Now that Gao Tu is gone, WenLang is drowning in regret, finally realizing the truth his heart had been hiding. I can only pray their paths cross again before it is too late.
But my heart aches because we only have one episode left. Just one. How can it already be ending next Saturday? It feels like yesterday I pressed play on episode one back in July. After Revenged Love, after Kill to Love, now even ABO is drawing its final curtain. No more Chinese BLs to hold us. All three this year were masterpieces. And yet, the ache remains, a longing for what could have been, for the stories still waiting to be told. One day, perhaps, when the ban is lifted, we will see China return to BL in full light. For when it comes to plot, to acting, to cinematic beauty and breathtaking fight scenes, no one tells a story like China does.
So here I am, counting the days until the finale, already mourning what has not yet ended. These characters, these stories, will stay with me long after the screen fades to black. Saying goodbye feels impossible, yet it is all we can do.
Sansa and Ramsay's rape scene was criticized a lot, I don't understand your point.
That was just an example of a TV show to make my point. Game of Thrones was enjoyed by millions worldwide, even though it had multiple rape scenes. Watching those scenes doesn’t mean the audience supports rape, it means they understand it’s part of a fictional story, often used to show the brutality of a world or the cruelty of a character. We don’t watch Breaking Bad because we support drug dealing, or The Godfather because we support murder. We watch because fiction allows us to explore dark, uncomfortable themes in a safe space. The same applies here, depicting something in fiction doesn’t automatically equal endorsement.
But there is a difference between a rape scene and romanticizing rape.
I understand where you’re coming from and I get your point. But it’s important to remember that sexual assault doesn’t only happen to women, men experience it too, and many never report it because of shame, fear, or stigma. As a guy myself, I can say that plenty of bi and gay men watch BL, so the target audience isn’t just women.
At the end of the day, BL is still fiction. Fiction often simplifies or dramatizes things for the sake of storytelling. We rarely see characters filing police reports in any genre unless it’s a crime drama.
Romantic comedies don’t realistically portray breakups, thrillers exaggerate violence, and fantasy worlds bend morality all the time. If we expected every story to depict real-life consequences, most of our favorite shows would fall apart.
That’s not to say we shouldn’t be critical. It’s fair to point out when something feels careless or harmful. But it’s also worth separating fiction from reality, because stories are designed to explore emotions, relationships, and drama, not to serve as a legal handbook.
But there is a difference between a rape scene and romanticizing rape.
I get where you’re coming from, but I don’t fully agree. Just because a series shows a rape scene doesn’t automatically mean it’s “romanticizing” rape. Context really matters. For example, in Game of Thrones or The Handmaid’s Tale, rape is shown as part of the brutal reality of the world the characters live in; it’s not glorified, it’s portrayed as traumatic and wrong. Similarly, in some BL dramas like Revenged Love or KinnPorsche, violent or morally dark scenes are used to build tension, explore character psychology, and show the consequences of power dynamics, not to suggest rape is romantic. If we start labeling every depiction as “romanticizing,” then we risk shutting down nuanced storytelling altogether. The key is whether the narrative frames it as acceptable or desirable, which is very different from simply depicting it as part of a dark storyline.
Over half way through and so far it's nothing more than a serious political drama without a shred of BL romance…
I’m starting this one soon. From your comment, it looks like it’s more of a slow burn. I just watched the trailer, and it definitely shows a kissing scene and even a NC scene. But I get your point, at the end of the day, we’re watching this for the gay romance. If there’s none, then we may as well just watch a straight drama.
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Then in episode 2, there were so many hints, Pheem clearly wanted the intimate moment on the sofa, the office scene carried the same tension, and you were right about the car scene when they talked about having sex. It’s pretty clear that both of them are into each other.
If we start nitpicking every scene to perfectly mirror real life, a lot of dramas would lose their charm. BLs often show high school students living alone in luxury apartments, or characters walking away from car crashes with barely a scratch. Some even survive knife wounds or gunshots with nothing more than a quick bandage. None of that is realistic or medically accurate, but just like the fentanyl example, it’s not about being 100% medically right, it’s about serving the story and keeping the drama engaging.
So, while it might not be scientifically accurate that fentanyl has that effect, the narrative purpose was clear: he was impaired, vulnerable, and not fully himself. That’s what mattered for the scene and the emotional weight it carried.
In the last episode, Pin witnessed the undeniable spark between Prince and Sasin. Her heart must have whispered the truth, that he felt nothing for her and yet she pressed forward with the wedding.
She even admitted it herself: “Let’s just marry first, and perhaps feelings will come later.”
But how can love bloom when the soil is already claimed by another? She knew, deep down, that Prince and Sasin belonged to one another. She could have stepped away at any moment; even Sasin, her own cousin, warned her.
And still, she chose the path of pain.
In the trailer, we see the wound she will bear.
That is the cruel beauty of a love triangle,
one heart pretending hope, while another shatters in silence.
For those who remember To Sir, With Love, the main lead Thian had the best brother, Yang. He was caring, supportive, and protective, the kind of brother anyone would wish for. Many even said that their bond was the true highlight of that BL.
And now, the same actor, Tongtong, plays Chet in this series… the complete opposite. Instead of love, we see cruelty. Chet tried to murder his own brother Pheem. As children, he even locked Pheem in a dark room, leaving scars of trauma that followed him into adulthood.
It’s such a stark contrast, watching the same actor embody the “best brother” in one story and the “worst brother” in another. Tongtong’s versatility shines, and I’m honestly loving this series even more because of it.
In the beginning, when Hua Yong stood beside Sheng Shao You, their bond was built on lies and manipulation. Sheng Shao You trusted every word, blind to the shadows beneath them. But when Hua Yong finally revealed the truth that he was an Enigma, that all he had ever wanted was to share a child together, Sheng Shao You could not believe him.
And yet, in episode 15, the impossible became undeniable. Sheng Shao You’s pregnancy shattered his world in an instant. Shock, fear, and disbelief tangled inside him, while Hua Yong could only watch in silence, guilt carved into his face, but also a quiet, aching satisfaction. For this was the moment he had waited for since he was sixteen. Long before their future was real, he had already chosen the name of their child, Hua Sheng, tenderly called Peanut. Their entire tomorrow had lived inside him for years, waiting for this fragile bloom of life.
The hospital scenes left me undone, the way they cared for each other, the way every look carried unspoken promises. I cannot wait to meet their Peanut in the next episode, yet the sweetness already carries a trace of sorrow, knowing how little time remains.
And then, our second couple… Shen WenLang, so careless with his words, never realizing how deep they cut. When Gao Tu asked what he would do if an Omega carried his child, WenLang’s answer fell like a blade: he would never want it, he never liked children. For Gao Tu, already carrying that fragile truth inside him, it was like living between two worlds. One filled with joy and hope, the other with fear and loneliness. So he left. Not because he was weak, but because he had to protect himself and the tiny heartbeat within him.
Episode 15 showed us the silence left behind. Shen WenLang reaching out again and again, haunted by memories, crushed by absence. Sometimes you don’t know the weight of love until it slips away. Now that Gao Tu is gone, WenLang is drowning in regret, finally realizing the truth his heart had been hiding. I can only pray their paths cross again before it is too late.
But my heart aches because we only have one episode left. Just one. How can it already be ending next Saturday? It feels like yesterday I pressed play on episode one back in July. After Revenged Love, after Kill to Love, now even ABO is drawing its final curtain. No more Chinese BLs to hold us.
All three this year were masterpieces. And yet, the ache remains, a longing for what could have been, for the stories still waiting to be told. One day, perhaps, when the ban is lifted, we will see China return to BL in full light. For when it comes to plot, to acting, to cinematic beauty and breathtaking fight scenes, no one tells a story like China does.
So here I am, counting the days until the finale, already mourning what has not yet ended. These characters, these stories, will stay with me long after the screen fades to black. Saying goodbye feels impossible, yet it is all we can do.
We don’t watch Breaking Bad because we support drug dealing, or The Godfather because we support murder. We watch because fiction allows us to explore dark, uncomfortable themes in a safe space. The same applies here, depicting something in fiction doesn’t automatically equal endorsement.
At the end of the day, BL is still fiction. Fiction often simplifies or dramatizes things for the sake of storytelling. We rarely see characters filing police reports in any genre unless it’s a crime drama.
Romantic comedies don’t realistically portray breakups, thrillers exaggerate violence, and fantasy worlds bend morality all the time. If we expected every story to depict real-life consequences, most of our favorite shows would fall apart.
That’s not to say we shouldn’t be critical. It’s fair to point out when something feels careless or harmful. But it’s also worth separating fiction from reality, because stories are designed to explore emotions, relationships, and drama, not to serve as a legal handbook.
If we start labeling every depiction as “romanticizing,” then we risk shutting down nuanced storytelling altogether. The key is whether the narrative frames it as acceptable or desirable, which is very different from simply depicting it as part of a dark storyline.