10joyboy

Yes, I agree with you. Unfortunately, there’s no equality in this regard, and you can really feel it. The MLs act like they’re not real men or lovers who can speak freely without being afraid of losing the FL if they say something she doesn’t like. So they always say the “right” thing and do the “right” thing.

That’s why we see fans calling them “green forests” simply because they never argue with the FL or have different opinions from her and even when they do have their own opinions, they eventually change them just to be with the FL, even with something big like getting married and having children . 🙂🙃

I actually stopped watching K-dramas and C-dramas because of this.

Yes, I noticed. In my opinion, they want to show it as a romantic gesture, but it's really about putting men below women, on their knees. Even the marriage proposal is like that.

And I think you noticed how they make FLs slap MLs every time MLs do something wrong, and no one says anything about it, as if it's a normal thing to do. MLs don't say anything, and FLs never apologize for it, like she's his parent disciplining him. But if the ML does that, it's always melodrama or a dark plot about the ML being a red flag and a scumbag 🙃. Even in melodramas, it's rare to see an ML slap the FL and then have her be the one apologizing instead of him.

And you will also notice how FLs don't apologize. If you've watched Turkish series, this is a crazy cliché. Even if the FL killed his family, she would never apologize 😂. Slapping the ML is much easier and more normal in those waste-of-time shows. 🙁

Yes, I can see they have a good reason for him to have been single his whole life here. And there's another trope, if you noticed, in this drama: she teases him throughout the whole drama, and he can't do or say anything about it, so he just tolerates it.

And even if they want to make it comedic, when he proposed and said, "I'm sorry, I'm not your ideal man," I cringed. I found it humiliating for a man to say that, especially when he did for her what no one did but still he sees himself not worthy of her and she deserves her dream man so he apologizin for it . So he has to do more and give more because she lowered her standards, and she did him a favor to accept him, and one annoying thing in most romance kdrama is fl don't do anything to make him that deep in love with her but still you see men around her all falling like autumn🍁🍂🍂 😅😂, but it's women times now because they watch this the most like in anime, and action movies, it's reversed as boys watching it more, but they really make mls in centric fl dramas just a little toy to please fls, unfortunately,

I know I stretch it a little bit but it's that deep and more, I can't believe this is not an agenda and it's just art.

Yes, unfortunately, it's the trend. I only mentioned SK because we're talking about a Korean drama, but it's even worse in C-dramas. And the West is a lost cause at this point. 😂 They do even crazier stuff, like accepting cheating, blaming the victim, and finding excuses for the cheater. There are even movies where they make the husband help his wife deal with her cheating partner, and worse.

And unfortunately, it's coming to South Korean series too. We're going to see more dramas about cheating, angsty love triangles, and characters falling for as many people as possible in one drama. 😂

Shit, here we go again. I said, “Let’s watch this one; maybe it’s good because the ML is a gang member, so it’s impossible for him to be the usual simp ML.” But I shot myself in the foot, wasting an hour just to find out he’s a loser who, at 33 years old, is getting his first kiss ( accidentally), while the FL has been changing boyfriends like she changes cars. 😂😂😂😂😂What the fuck is happening in South Korea? Why do they always portray their men as the most pure and innocent ones when it’s the opposite in real life!? Is this some kind of propaganda to mislead women or what? Because I can’t see any other reason except to make men look silly, like a joke, and humiliate them. Why are most MLs virgins while the FLs have experience, exes, and even all love triangle stupid trope is two or more virgin men chasing a fl who just got broke up with her ex, !!??? 🙃😕🙁🙁

you accused me so deal with it 😅😂😂😂. have a good day. and don't take criticism of characters in dramas as real life people and say I hate women like I don't have any women in my life and nota women who brought me to this life that I can't appreciate enough.

If that's what you understood from what I wrote, then unfortunately you misunderstood it badly my point has never been about hating women It's about writers who constantly humiliate men through the way they write relationships.

Was anything I said about this drama false? Doesn't she slap him whenever she feels like it? Is pointing that out "hating women"? Or is it that the writers normalize abuse toward men while the ML can't even think about slapping her back, even when she makes bigger mistakes than he does?

And that's just one example, there are so many double standards. Male leads are constantly written as simps just because they fall in love, while female leads often don't care about the ML's feelings whenever those feelings conflict with what they want. I'm criticizing the writers, not women. Characters are fictional they reflect the writers' ideas, not real women.

In C-dramas, the FL often has a crowd of men falling for her like leaves in autumn. Writers also flipped old gender roles. When women did all the cooking and housework, it was called oppression and a red flag because men didn't help. But now when the ML cooks, cleans, and does everything while the FL can't even boil an egg, it's suddenly considered cute and romantic instead of a red flag that's the kind of inconsistency I'm talking about.

My issue isn't with women, It's with writers who create unbalanced relationships where men exist only to serve, sacrifice, and constantly prove themselves while expecting little or nothing from the FL in return.

There are countless other examples. When an ML makes a mistake even if it's a misunderstanding, like rejecting the FL's confession , he spends half the drama apologizing, chasing her, and suffering until she accepts him. But when the FL rejects the ML dozens of times, he keeps chasing her anyway, and everyone calls it romantic. If the roles were reversed and the FL had to chase him for that long after she did a big mistake as what they write mo did , people would call her a doormat with no self-respect. Why isn't she called romantic too? Why is only the man's pursuit celebrated when he's wrong or not?? And why being traditional here is celebrated till this day but not when it's women turn to be traditional!? ( I'm talking about writers and fans who wants traditional things only wbeyits men who shoutdo it not when it's women!!!)everything traditional about women they make it look bad of she doing it, but everything traditional about men of he didn't do it it's looks bad and they call him red flag!? This what I call the toxic feminisem, nor the good feminisem who wants equality ( that's what I also want and repeat writing about it as much as I can, because men in cdrama never equal to fls unfortunately except some dramas.) 

Then there's another common trope: the ML is often inexperienced, while the FL has an ex or emotional baggage from a previous relationship. The ML has to accept it, help her heal, fight her ex, and compete with the second male lead for her love. That's another example of how writers often make the ML endure everything.

One of my favorite C-drama couples actually has the ML doing everything for the FL, even washing her feet but I love that relationship because she genuinely loves and respects him too. She gives back just as much that's what I want: balance and equality . Not one person doing all the work while the other is simply admired.( road home cdrama) 

Again, this isn't about hating women. It's about criticizing writers who repeatedly create one-sided relationships because that's what a large part of the audience enjoys. I rarely see people talking about "green flag" female leads. It's almost always the ML or the second ML being praised as green flags because they're endlessly patient and self-sacrificing.( the lighter and princess fl was a green flag fl with the green flag mls standards that viewers talk about) 

Unfortunately, most people I discuss this with don't seem interested in the imbalance itself. They simply enjoy seeing men do more, suffer more, and make fools of themselves for love, Many even cheer when an FL slaps the ML. But the moment you suggest that, by the same logic, she would deserve the same treatment after doing something similar, suddenly you're called abusive misogynist 🙃🙃🙃

That's the double standard I'm criticizing. Is that really about hating women!? Far from it.

With others, yes, he uses his authority, and I'm sure he'll keep using it. But with the FL? I could easily bet my house that he'll only keep lowering himself for her until the very end, taking the full simp route with no brakes. 😅😂 He hasn't even fallen in love with her yet, and he's already letting her disrespect him and act like he's nothing special. Just imagine what he'll be like once he falls head over heels for her. 🙃
Believe me, no one loves a strong ML more than I do, but unfortunately, nowadays it's either simps or scumbag red flags. We almost never get a strong, masculine man with dignity, self-respect, important responsibilities, and dreams of his own someone whose entire personality doesn't change the moment he falls in love. Instead, he becomes a toy whose only purpose is to please the FL, support her, make her happy, and help her achieve her goals.
It's been years since I've seen an ML like that. And it's not just C-dramas to be honest also K-dramas and Turkish dramas have the same problem, if not worse, as for Western shows... they've taken the "simp" trope to monster levels. 😂😂

watch my Royal princess and you see the sml is more important to. the story than ml even when you double it twice still sml more important and fl show respect and liking more towards him till last episode 😅😂😂 I still get frustrating from. her love looks towards him while the simp ml. just watching her after she humiliated him completely I'm front of sml for something he didn't do but sml, but when she knows it's sml she didn't do anything and just say he's a good person 😂😂😂😂 amd was disappointed about him and that's it and still make ml suffer and je become just jer support character that need her help to get power while sml alone he face both of them with his mind, everytime something big happen it's between the princess and sml while ml away trying to do something helpful but just like child think he's important in a adults work 😂😂😂

Not just Prince. Another C-drama that's airing right now has the potential to turn the emperor into another mega simp. The FL doesn't even respect his position and acts like she's his equal, even though she only benefits from his status, She does it in front of other people too, not just when they're alone.

The crazy thing is that she respects her senior (sml) more than the emperor, even though he's the one helping her and the one who saved her in the past (she still doesn't know that) but I bet that when she finds out, she'll just say "thank you" and move on. If it were the SML instead, C-drama FLs would go out of their way to repay him and do everything they could to help him.

But when it's the ML, she acts as if helping her is just normal and here's another cliché: the double standard when an ML finds out that the FL saved or helped him in the past, he becomes completely devoted to her and often turns into a simp, But FLs almost never react the same way. 🙂🙂
cdrama and simps ar the longest cliche right now, mls have no personality out of loving fl and worshiyhee and being silly and insecure jealous.

Some writers and fans seem to think that, for a female lead to be "strong and independent," she has to be rude to the emperor and never do anything that might look like she's lowering herself. 🙃

If writers didn't turn male leads into simps with no personality, many of these FLs would realistically get punished for repeatedly disrespecting the most powerful man in the empire, and not fall in love with them and give them more, and what crazy is when it's reversed you see mls knel as normal and respect fls as the hierarchy tells .

And let's be honest, without mls , many of them wouldn't have achieved half of what they did.

I also noticed that a lot of these FLs keep using the ML's power, influence, and protection but rarely show genuine appreciation. They'll say they're independent even when the ML literally saved their life or gave them opportunities that would have taken years to earn , or that they might have died trying to obtain on their own.

Then, in the end, the hero who saved her is the one who apologizes to her, starts worshipping her because she once did him a small favor,

And here we go again the ML falls first, becomes insecure and jealous, lets her do whatever she wants, spends all his time helping her achieve her dreams, and by the end, it feels like he'd happily make her the empress while he becomes her consort. 😂

so he would also fall for her!?!!! it would be better if they stay friends for once without all men falling for fl

he will just wait until he fall for her he would be just as all mls in this kind of cdramas below fls chasing after them 😂😅😅

it's not this drama it's another one just ended recently a couple of days ago 🙂 with reverse harem every man love her from, first sight,
but I don't know about this drama because I didn't read the novel. but I assume she had some relationship before because it's the cliché right now fl having an ex or fiance she didn't like or he's toxic, or at least would have a sml also love her 😂😂😂

he's, and she has an ex husband and her ex husband loves her too and his brother love her also and ml and his brother both loves her 😂😂😂😂 and all virgins exept ex husband maybe, 🙃

I bet he'll end up being just as much of a simp as the others once he falls for her. That's the cliché in C-dramas these days. At first, the ML looks like everything an emperor or prince should be powerful, intelligent, and dignified. But the moment he falls in love, everything changes. His only job becomes chasing after her, acting jealous, and behaving silly just to please her, hoping she'll spare him a little time from all the "more important" things in her life.

Men in C-dramas are basically second-class citizens now. 😂😂 Reverse harems have become the norm, even in historical settings where the exact opposite would have been the norm.

I've also noticed that the less personality or dignity an ML has in front of the FL he loves, the more fans call him "the standard." (The standard for simps. 😂)

At the same time, the colder and more indifferent the FL is toward men, the more viewers seem to love her. They enjoy watching the ML suffer, chase her endlessly, while a bunch of other simps compete for her attention.

Almost every episode, she's surrounded by another guy trying to win her over. They all get their turn to save her and play the hero, but in the end she chooses the ML—who, even if he's a prince, spends most of the drama acting like a loyal puppy, hoping for the smallest bit of affection in return. 😅 this was the plot of a recent cdrama ended couple of days ago 😅😂

and a PhD in how to make men simps without dignity , that love a woman that reject them many times and an ml simp that tolerate all that and just get jealous and can't say anything because she don't give a dam about his feelings , and fight with his brother and her ex husband and his brother and every man saw her fall in love so he has to low himself and act as a dog to get her attention and at the end she start like him because he's a good boy 😂😅😅😂

Is it really enjoyable to watch a couple of simps fighting over one cold-hearted woman while the ML is insecure, jealous, and forced to tolerate everything because he can't do anything about it?

Now imagine the opposite: a bunch of simp women fighting over one ML while he doesn't give a damn about them, stays cold-hearted, and directly or indirectly takes advantage of their love for his own benefit. Then one or two of them die because they couldn't have him, and the one who finally ends up with him has to do everything in the relationship while he just relaxes because he has "more important things" to do. She's basically his reward for all the hardships he went through in the past, and he doesn't even really like her until two-thirds of the drama is over. 😂😂😂😂

I'd bet my house that it would become one of the lowest-rated dramas. 😅

so this fl is the anime ml version when everyone love him just because he's the ml 😂😂😂

and ml has to deal with the jealousy and tolerate being in second or third on her priority list, don't ask much from her because she gave everything for her ex-husband and she's don't need him he needs her so he has to do everything and wait for his chance 🙂 and he has to do everything in the relationship later also because she also did that once for her ex, so it's ml's turn even when it's not his fault , and act as proud because he get a scratch from her , when she did that for her ex husband more 🙃 waw, what a love story 🙃🙃🙂 and they don't make fl, as you said, cringey and cutesy, but they change it to ml, so he's the one who plays that role in a slightly different way, but still he's just a support character whose whole role is to love fl and die trying to make her give him a chance, and he competes with many other men she keeps around, in a way. 😅

How ml change from red flag being a simp without dignity, running after fl because he fall in love!? Is not he was in love from start!? And I said it: writers in cdrama world always make mls suffer because of fl past emotional baggage, and he should be a simp, doing everything and loving her unconditionally so she give him a small chance to prove himself more, while she don't even like him till the last third of the drama. 😅😂 While in past she was doing everything for her ex who betrayed her love, so ml should suffer because of her ex even when ml didn't do anything bad. And her love for him at the end is just a one-sided relationship, and she chooses the one who benefits her very well, and she don't care if he's in her life or not because she don't need anyone, she's that independent. And if he's around, it's okay, she can give him some time. 😂😅😅

In this kind of drama, the last thing you can see is fl love ml even one third as much as he love her or do anything in the relationship. It's all on him to make the relationship work. Unfortunately, no equality, like in anime where mc have a harem of simp fls that fall in love with one look from him and have no dignity, except anime is just anime, but this should be real to a degree. So why they make mls simps without dignity? All their role is to fall in love with the independent, strong, smart, undisputed fl, the one no one come near because she's perfect all around. 😅😂😂 Like mcs of anime exactly.