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If she's soft only with him, I support that too. But here, she's soft with all the men around her, so they all fall for her and misunderstand her smiles and kindness as romantic interest. And she still thinks of the SML as a close friend after everything he did and even after knowing he has feelings for her.
This makes the ML a simp in bad way that he tolerate things he don't like because he's afraid she will leave him or make her mad on his standards and boundaries , a man who gives more than he gets and she can't can't tolerate same thing if he did it

. But when both people simp for each other equally, that's what a healthy and perfect relationship looks like.

I think the difference is that for me, once someone has romantic feelings and is still waiting for a chance, it stops feeling like a normal friendship. Maybe one side calls it “platonic,” but if the other side clearly wants more, then the dynamic already changed. So my issue is not just interaction itself, but keeping that kind of relationship close while being in another relationship is disrespect on my opinion .
And yes, maybe some people are okay with that, but I personally wouldn’t be comfortable with it. Especially if that person starts acting like they have any right to comment on our relationship or stay emotionally involved while waiting for an opportunity and act like he's special . I would rather stay single than be in that situation, tolerating another person who wants my partner and , my partner give him time and laugh and sad with him. ( like some even accept to be with someone still friends with their exs 🙃🙃I still don't know how they can accept it and live normal, good for them I suppose)

About self-respect, accepting everything and tolerate anything is not respect yourself , one should have boundaries and standards , People have different standards and boundaries. For me, boundaries are part of respect in a relationship, and one of boundaries is not to be friends with male friends that have feelings for you .
If someone else is okay with it, that’s their choice, but I know I wouldn’t accept it.

And yes, I know reverse harem stories are built around multiple men liking the FL, so I’m not surprised by it. I just personally don’t enjoy that dynamic because many dramas make every male character fall for the FL too easily just to make her seem special, and their first role in the drama is to love fl not something else, but fl role to have what she wants and being with a man is extra ,and the ML is expected to tolerate everything, apologize first , and never disagree with her, and if he did he should apologize or she be mad at him .
The double standards in a lot of C-dramas are what bother me more than the tropes itself 😅

Because she's married, she can't be friends with someone who thinks of her as more than just a friend. Or is it normal for you to be friends with someone who likes you romantically? Sorry, but this is disrespectful toward the husband or boyfriend. And if the husband or boyfriend accepts this, he needs help understanding what self-respect is 😅. In C-dramas, they always prove that friendship between women and men is impossible because they can't write a male second lead as “just a friend” without making him fall in love with her too.

thank you, I hate also sad endings lol 😂, I like dramas like in my profile the last ancient drama I enjoy is the brocade and the sword , and I also wach love like galaxy but I skip nearly more than 25 episode so I start when she and ml start relationship when he ask to marry her 😅, I can't watch her lovin smls before ml . have a good day

I mean after he hit her and pointed weapon at her!? how she still think he's her friend and even after she knows he love her romantically!?

in this kind of reverse harem the last person fl have good chemistry with is the ml

and fl still friends with him after doing all that!? wtf

Thank you for your reply. It makes my comment valid to a degree that her “independence” is only from her husband. Planning? I bet it’s just her saying something, and he says, “Okay, we’ll do it,” or “Do it, I’ll help you.” I can’t imagine C-drama writers making the ML disagree with the FL and her actually listening to him instead of doing whatever she wants. And if they do write that, then I need to watch it, because that would be something new. at least the episode because I can't watch this reverse harem unfortunately I hate love triangle.
But I don’t see how it’s respectful toward the ML, her husband, for her to ask the SML whom she knows has feelings for her for help while her husband is there and isn’t weak or poor to the point that his wife needs another man’s help. And if she supposedly doesn’t know he has feelings for her it will be less disrespectful (being smart fl but dumb about other men around her feelings is normal in C-dramas), but she knows enough that he has feelings, and she still keep being around him anyway. I don't think this is respect to her husband.

What do you think it's a C-dramas so making the FL have a second male lead and she has great chemistry and emotional scenes with is normal , sometimes she even acts better around him than around the ML at start before being with ml just because his scenes with her is not that many 😅
And maybe she has no boundaries with the SML even when she knows he loves her romantically, not just as a friend.

Meanwhile, the ML can’t even say anything about it and is only jealous in a “cute” way 😂😅
Another piece of evidence C-dramas give to prove that friendship between men and women is impossible 😅😂😂😂

So it's not proper to talk about it, but it's okay to be friends with other men? Since when is this okay? And she has more time and chemistry with him, yet she can't set boundaries with him. She still acts like he doesn't like her romantically.

by doing that is to work and get help from. other men but not ml!? is it like this her too because on other cdrama fl act independent only from ml but she get help from sml and other men 🙂🙃

after I read comments about sml and other men around fl à d her dumb think it about being only friend with them and not see their romantic feelings I can say he's a simp in the worst way possible 🙃😅😂

how many this fl love before she get with ml!? comment after comment I discovered she has another man love her or she likes in past 😅😂😂

Yes, they can do that, but why do they say he’s a virgin if not to imply something else!? They can make him a normal adult because any adult would think it’s normal for a 30-year-old man to have a past, and then stop making him act like a virgin. That way, they remove a stupid cliché. But no, they say it and make him act like one, and even make his first love the FL 😂😂

Short version: for me, it’s mainly about equality. For some reason, equality only matters when it benefits certain people, but when it’s about others, suddenly it’s “not important” 🙃.
Even in old K-dramas with a playboy ML and an innocent, naive FL, I still can’t enjoy it for the same reason: the relationship feels unequal. But unfortunately, most people I discuss this with think it’s about something else, or they call me sexist because I don’t enjoy watching simp men get disrespected while the drama calls it “love,” “cute,” or a “green flag.”
And honestly, I bet if the FLs acted the way MLs usually do in these dramas, K-drama producers would go bankrupt.

lol, the general idea from someone who doesn't like the virgin ML cliché , and also doesn't like MLs staying single for years after breaking up with the FL , while she's not a virgin and also doesn't stop dating after the breakup, is that it's not equality and ml have no dignity or personality, only born to love fl and accept anything from. her even disrespectful , and it makes MLs look like simps (and they really are simps most of the time). Some people like it because “wow, a man who loves so deeply,” and think it's cute when he's jealous while the FL is still confused between him and her boss/ex, or her work is more important , and then he says the magical words: “I’ll wait for you until you decide.” And after a minute, you see him running after her to another city. At least in this drama, they made her walk a few steps toward him to kiss him 😂😂😂😂. and you don't see fl doing anything to make him fall or to win him back most of the time ml need just a half little hint to cross the world to find her. I understand fl still act traditional in this matter but even if it's too much, we understand women like men to be traditional in this cases that benefits them but it's too much that it becomes humiliation and disrespect that she don't do anything to show he's important for her also and he also has self respect to not just chase after someone who don't do anythingto say it.

And about the past of the leads not mattering , I just talk it should just be equal for both,

Not one still fighting their feelings toward their ex while the other is a virgin doing everything in the relationship, getting rejected many times, and having no dignity. And most of the time, it's the ML.

And if what I said is wrong, mention to me a romcom with:

a virgin FL, and sfl ex

and a love triangle centered around the ML, not the FL.


We all watch K-dramas, so don't act like I don't see MLs with pasts and don't mention it one I said most of the time it's what I said, and second in romcom it's more rare.

And even when he has a past, like in this one, he still does everything and still acts like someone who never had any past. His past is for comedy, while the FL’s past is for tension and to satisfy fans who like seeing the ML and SML both love the FL, and some wish she end up with sml ( even if it's just wishing) and it's good for business because the majority who watch are women.

And yes, you're right about why they write MLs as virgins. One reason is to make them act shy and cute and give everything they have, because we all know first love happens only once in life, so they write the FL as the ML’s first love.

and they can give them past both and still don't do it like Hollywood, like mention it or show or without intimate scenes as they do for fl most of the time.

One of the most popular romcom K-dramas in history is Something in the Rain, See how toxic the FL’s past was, and how he healed her because she was his first love and he did everything. It was a good chemistry between them and they act close to. real couple , but what happened after she broke his heart? He stayed single for three years like a dog, while she went back to her bad choices in men and dated another toxic guy. And the worst part is that she didn’t do anything to win the ML back. But the simp who did everything still got blamed by her. She’s older, so she should be more mature, but no.

And another waste-of-time romance is Welcome to Samdal-ri, where he waited for 8 years single like a dog because he loved her and supported her from the shadows 😂, while she was changing men to forget him and didn’t do anything to help him or even know what he was doing. And when she came back, it was still him doing everything while she blamed him for not doing more 🙃🙃.

And her confession is one of the worst confessions I’ve ever watched, and only a simp could accept that:

> “I love you, and I dated many men to forget you. I was struggling, and I wish it was you.” 😅😂😂😂



Let’s not forget she didn’t think about the ML until she got cheated on. (And for the record, she still worked with her cheating ex while the ML was abroad again for a year or something. And again, he went to her — not she going to him.)

I can name many popular K-dramas like this until tomorrow, without even mentioning the SML simps, especially in the second drama I mentioned 😂😂😂

I bet what you said at the end what will happen and I bet time skip stupid cliché and act like nothing happened after years😅😂😂

Yes, they complete each other: one is doing nothing or a little , and the other is doing everything he could to be with her . What better example of “completing each other” is there than this one act like it's not that important and the other is a simp without any dignity ?And “he didn’t go to her” is just bul.... because we all know he did. If they really wanted to change the dynamic, they would’ve written the FL as the one who flies to him, not the ML.And she’s the one who rejected him, so she should at least work a little to win him back. But in K-dramas, the ML never has dignity in front of the FL , He’s always on her call, even if she breaks up with him, and I bet if she did it , he would still run back to her immediately.

I know it will be like this from the beginning because, unfortunately, recently this has been the kind of plot that romcom K-dramas keep writing, without changing anything about the dynamics of the romance, and weak ml even when they change the cliché about being virgin he still act as one 😅😂

it's the cliché, even when they try to make him a play boy they do it badly because he's acting like a teenager virgin, and it's what they want so he can become fl toy don't do anything she dislike or argue or think he's equal to her 😅😂😂 he's waiting her to say do this don't do that, again from the preview of next episode we see that he get in an accident so that will be her reason to accept him I think , another stupid way to say they can't write a mature romance without cliché and simp mls.