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and accept to be second choice for her even when she was testing ml's fitness at night lol

just that ml will not let her get close to him

like fl doing with Mr Yan and d will do later on , it's a cliche, ml get jealous of sml , but fl don't , and act like it's not affecting her lol , they make this for making ml jealous and act silly because of it , and to make sml show his evilness and obsession, and maybe also sfl will be obsessed with the ml , so they will try to stop mls to be together.

I agree with you completely, and I stopped watching C-dramas for the same reason. Male leads make me want to slap them because they have no self-respect or personality, just losers in love. They renamed being a simp as a “green flag,” as if disrespecting yourself is now a green flag.
When tolerating everything is a green flag, when always apologizing even when you’re not wrong is a green flag, when accepting being a second choice is greenflag,
seriously?
And there are many other humiliating behaviors that they’ve rebranded as green flags.
A relationship is about equality. Both people should make effort to make it successful, not one person doing everything while the other has “more important things” like career or personal ambitions.
recently kdrama episode 11 of twelve episodes drama , she breaks up with him because she wants to focus on her career. She asks him to wait for her for three years, and he says, “I’ll wait for you until you come to me,” lol. She could work and still be with him, but no ,they had to disrespect him first, more than they did from chasing after her after she breakup with her ex and she make him first her rebound , then they make her go back to him before the deadline she set, so now she loves him more.that she comes after one or two years I don't remember 😅🤣🤦‍♂️and he just asked her you done with your job!? 🤦🤦🤦

I agree with you completely.And it’s a fact that standards get higher after watching these shows, whether it’s Western series( example like Rip from Yellowstone I watch this show, and I’ve read many women asking, “Where can I find someone like him?” lol , but no normal man ever will ask where to find a woman like Beth,) or C-drama male leads (there are too many to count). They are written deliberately this way to sell the dramas and shows to the majority of viewers, who are women.The male lead changes 180 degrees after falling in love, lets the FL lead the relationship, and does more effort for her and tolerate everything. They gives the FLs this powers simply because they exists , and she can change many men and make them accept disrespect themselves, just to be with her,this unconsciously affects how people see men in real life. Expectations become higher, and when a woman is with a normal guy, it unconsciously affects how much she enjoys the relationship. like they says (comparison kills the enjoyment) And vice versa, men also get affected, but less than women in my opinion in this regard, and they get affected more in other things .) If viewers doesn’t think deeply about it, they will always have that desire for the near-perfect male lead they watches in K-dramas and C-dramas.And I agree with you: people need to think more about what they watch and waste time on, and at least criticize what they’re watching instead of saying, “Just turn your brain off.”Unfortunately, there are no shows anywhere in the world that portray truly equal and healthy relationships. Even Pakistani dramas have this problem, but with more suffering and stupidity. Turkish series are the worst when it comes to double standards: men are just losers in love who get slapped more times than they hear “I love you” from the female leads, lol. And no female leads are ever wrong more than C-drama female leads.Like you said, this is global. And in my opinion, this is because of toxic feminism. (like they say : too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing) many years of toxic masculinity, they are now taking revenge with toxic feminism. That’s how I see it, because it’s too much.
You can see this clearly in C-dramas, In the past, women were shown cooking and taking care of the house. Now you can’t see women doing that at all , it’s always men, from start to finish, while women sit, enjoy themselves, talk to each other, or play games. When the male lead goes to the female lead’s parent's house, they ask him if he can cook, and he goes to the kitchen to prove it, lol. And they write FLs can’t even boil an egg, exactly like how MLs were written in the past.The same thing happened in relationships: in the past, men were playboys and female leads were innocent virgins; now it’s flipped. And there are many other examples like this. They didn’t fix the problem in the game, they just changed the players.

Yes, the crazy thing is that they want to make her act like men being promiscuous to show that she is strong and open-minded, calling it “empowerment.” But you never see an ML like her in these kinds of dramas, never.
Most of the time, the ML is a virgin has some kind of “allergy” when he gets close to women, except the FL 🤣.
But when they reverse the roles, they make her command men to sleep with her! Unfortunately, C-dramas have no balance. They always write to please one sex over the other: in the past they wrote to please men, and now they write to please women, and it's more crazy than when it was for men , because now sometimes they show men more as servant for fls than partners , and no one say that is wrong but say ml is green forest, and fl a strong queen 🤦😮‍💨.

I agree with you 🙂.
Yes, whenever an ML says “no” once, he will regret it later.
C-drama every one love me where the ML rejected the FL only because he didn’t know she was the same girl he loved online. He was being faithful, yet she made him regret that decision for two-thirds of the drama. He chased her, begged her to forgive him, and cried. Even when she broke up with him later because of a misunderstanding that show she never know him or his personality , she blamed him, and say hurtful things, never apologized, and he was still the one apologizing again,
The double standard is always the same:
If the ML breaks up with the FL for her own good, he must chase her for half the drama, fight the SML, beg, apologize, and humiliate himself before she forgives him.
If the FL does the same, she doesn’t apologize, doesn’t chase him, and acts like she’s doing him a favor by accepting him again, like Cdrama our interprenter .

The ML is always the one who has to understand, forgive, and suffer and have no dignity or backbone, or standards.

Other repeated issues in C-dramas:
FLs usually have exes; MLs are often virgins.
The ML has to fight the ex and help the FL “heal,” becoming the rebound.
You almost never see an FL doing the same for an ML have an ex , because most of the time, the ML doesn’t even have one.
Recent examples:
Only for Love
Best Choice Ever
As Beautiful As You
In As Beautiful As You:
The ML (a CEO) nearly destroyed himself drinking after the breakup .
The FL lived happily, had another man chasing her in Germany.
The ML begged, humiliated himself publicly, and said he was “nothing” before meeting her.
She still acted like forgiving him was a favor.
Meanwhile, she attended her ex’s wedding like nothing happened, and the ML had to show up and be “happy” for her also .and the crazy is that the reason she breakup with him she later said it was good he did that for the company she just get angry because he didn't discuss with her first, a d it was the first mistake he did but she throw him to the side like she don't like him .

it's refreshing to see women like you here saying this , because majority in this comments don't even see things from mls perspective, they act like fls think that what should they do and it's their job to be simps , and never ask for anything from fls, that do everything for their exs lol

if you watch the first frost ml was good in every aspect and never mad or misunderstood fl but she left him twice and she don't even apologize, and when she wants to meet him she didn't go to him but she called him to come to her and even when he comes she still didn't speak first or take first step to hug him , it's everytime him taking first steps towards her and do everything for her , I don't remember if she do even one thing for him , but no one said anything about it like it's his job for that and find excuses for her for doing whatever she wants.

have a good day and if I don't stop I would right a book about double standard and men downgrading in this dramas 🤣😅

they wants to break up on their regular favorite place for that lol because they break up more than they say I love you to each other lol

This is exactly what I’m saying about almost every C-drama I wanted to watch but drop it because of this . I can bet with anyone to give me a recent C-drama without this unbalanced power dynamic between FLs and MLs.
Like you said, every ML starts as the strongest, smartest, most ruthless, richest man, and so on. But after he meets the FL, everything becomes about her being better than him. His only role afterward is to serve her, wait for her commands, and love her unconditionally. He changes 180 degrees and becomes her shadow, someone who can’t live without her ad she's his priority .
And don’t even get me started on how they turn mls into little girls in love with soft knees the moment the FL says something or gets close to their face , because most MLs are portrayed as virgins who’ve never even touched a woman’s hand before, which is ridiculous.
this ML’s voice doesn’t help it’s softer than hers 😅🤣 and when he's talking with her like he's begging her for mercy .
Then they complete this humiliation with the reverse roles in her family, where she has men at her call, and men warming her bed every time she wants . She even wants the ML to be just one of those men she’ll get rid of when she’s done with him or he do something she didn't like .
When she threatened him by saying that if he didn’t sleep with her, she would go to another man , and he stopped her I honestly wanted to slap him. That’s extremely humiliating and disrespectful, yet he accepts it and even gets jealous, and say he has pride!? if he was like he started he will sleep with her and take advantage of that to get what he wants and then left their relationship to future, because she's also just wanted to take advantage of him for what she wants, but it's a Cdrama so mls always think about fls first, and he's like they show him not a good man , but with fl he's acting like he's the most innocent one !!!!

ml after married to fl will replace him after she chose another one 😅🤣🤣😅😅😅😅😅

Both are just a waste of time ، kdramas with body swapping, two or three men falling for the same girl, the FL being poor and the ML a prince, fighting an evil king, the ML falling first and harder while the FL has “more important things” 🙄
I also don’t watch the C-drama you mentioned because, like you said, it’s just the same plots repeated with different actors, plus a bunch of simps running after the FL 🤣😅🤦‍♂️
Recently, there are fewer and fewer dramas that are actually enjoyable.

stupid body swap with stupid love triangles , what anyone can ask more to get frustrating watching the kdrama , 🤣😅🤦🤦🤦🤦

yes , and only fl that follows what she says, but others don't and still she forgive them , but fl act like she can't do that also 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 and need to vow and tolerate her stupid grandma, knowing what she's doing is not good for her or the family in the long run

they most of the time use this stupid cliche to make only ml wrong and he needs to beg for forgiveness later and she don't even apologize for what she did , and she will become stupid to understand his reasons, like he understands her with all her lies to him

So the ML still needs to help her!?
And yes, I agree with you. FLs always become stupid when it comes to understanding MLs, because they think with their ego and emotions instead of logic. It’s also stupid to blindly follow a vow that was made for stupid reasons, especially when it was forced by a stupid grandma.

his enemies playing chess with him and win some games, but her enemies can't even play tic tac tok,😅🤣🤣🤣

and other "men" still waiting to see if she enjoyed ml , if not they would try also lol , this is cucumber taste, more than simp thinking.

I think you should stop waiting for her to do that. I bet she will make him regret the day he even thought about entering her family before she forgives him, and he will suffer for it I’m sure .
It’s a C-drama, so only MLs are expected to understand FLs and forgive them without any apology. FLs, on the other hand, are portrayed as never disrespecting themselves for an ML, never trying to truly understand him. And even if she does understand his reasons, her ego is always bigger than her feelings, so she won’t forgive what he did without making him suffer and beg first.
One way she will definitely make him suffer with is by being close to the SML, I guess like always in this kind of drama.

Me too, I quit watching Cdramas, but I gave this one a chance. I even watched six and a half episodes, but I dropped it after I read some spoilers. he doesn’t change again to the personality he started with- smart and strong , but just becomes her servant and falls for her and He acts like he can’t win against his enemies without her so he still needs to be her servant .

Before he met her, he supposedly the strongest and he beat them and was called ruthless and smart, but now he’s like a little boy who can’t save himself and needs the FL’s help to win over his enemies. On top of that, he even wants to marry her, but she only wants to be friends with benefits, and he becomes her new toy to please her 😅😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

Yes, it's clear, and I completely agree with you.

I'm not very good at English either, so I use ChatGPT to correct my writing 😅.

that's why I dislike this kind of dramas where the FL is made into a superhero. They turn the ML into a victim who always needs saving lol.
Why not make them both smart, give each their unique personality, have them fight against each other first and someone win one battle the other win the next , and then, once they become a couple, let them help each other and become a powerful duo against the world? Instead, the ML becomes just a soldier for her, waiting for her commands, and some dramas she wins even in physical battles against the most strong general in the empire!! it’s crazy to me.

like you said, most of time the ML can’t survive without her, and most of the time she’s the reason he’s in trouble in the first place, but he’s still running after her.😮‍💨😅😅

No, I’m not worried about it, It’s just to make my argument stronger and as a joke . one or two plans that I’m sure he’ll regret later if he plays with the FL using them( like the reason for being in her palace ), because she won’t think he has his reasons and he did a good job lol, so let’s wait and see how she makes him apologizing for being smarter than her (if it’s against her). But if it’s against others like her enemies , that doesn’t even count as being smarter than her, because even her horse🐴 sometimes can come up with better plans than her when he’s running because of fear 😅😂😂.