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is she slapped him again after the first one!? and is she ever apologize about the first slap to him or they like always didn't mention it like it's no big deal!? thank you

no , and no they didn't , and no they didn't break up there a little argument but they resolved it after two episodes or something like that, and no love triangle they get married and fall for each other with time next to each other.

We're talking about two different things. Yes, she did a lot for him, but she didn’t do it out of love—she did it because she’s like Sun Tzu. She did it because it benefited her. Even the thing she hid from him was for her own benefit.

If she completely trusted him, that wouldn't be something a Sun Tzu-like mind would do, even if she liked him—because for her, her people always come first. She would never trust someone like him and put her people in danger. That’s why I said what I said.

I argue that he did more for her out of love than she did for him out of love. What she did was because she’s a strategist, so it doesn’t really count as love.

And even when she forgave him too easily—it’s all just strategy to make him fall for her , She knew the smarter move was to not make him angry or upset and also as you said, she was the perfect wife and she succeed in her plan—with the slight surprise that she didn't think about that she also ended up falling for him.

But still, she’s smarter than him—she loved him with her mind also, not like him, who loved her unconditionally. He forgot that she came from his enemies camp. That’s how he got played with that tunnel thing.

If he had loved her with his mind too, like she did, he wouldn’t have fallen for that. (Well… maybe he still would, because they gave her superpowers "the mind of Sun Tzu "🤣😅—he had no chance!)

That's another cliché, my friend. The female lead always does more in her past relationships, but with the male lead—even if she loves him—she doesn't do even half of what she did for her ex. I get that they use this to say, "With the right one, you don't need to do anything, and he will love you unconditionally and chase after you," even if you're disrespectful toward him (lol). It's just another fantasy they sell to the majority of viewers, who call this kind of male lead a "green forest"—I call them simps.

In every drama with an ex or a crush, the female lead does everything to get him to love her. She sacrifices everything. But when she likes the male lead—or even loves him—she does nothing and just focuses on her career. So many dramas are like this, if not all of them.

For example, in the K-drama Business Proposal, the male lead was a CEO who fell for her first, fell harder, and chased her like there was no other woman. She kept rejecting him, but she acted like a servant for her crush and always behaved like a little girl in front of him, dreaming of being with him. Meanwhile, the male lead just stood there watching her, waiting for her to like him. And there are many other K-dramas and C-dramas exactly like this.

Fake it till you make it" — I don’t think she did. I hate how she treated him. Even after the male lead confessed, she still didn’t accept him and even tried to be with someone else — a rich guy. She only backed off after hearing what he said, but it was clear she was seriously considering him.

Then, when her ex came back, she spent time with him and didn’t even tell him that she was dating the male lead. 😅 She never helped around the house, even though she knew the male lead liked things clean. She made a mess while working — like a child playing — and he was always the one who had to clean up after her.

It was a good drama — I watched it twice — but I dislike the female lead every single time. The way she acted with her ex, and then got mad at the male lead for spending time with his ex? That’s pure hypocrisy. She played hard to get while trying other options. Honestly, if the rich guy hadn’t said what he did, I’m pretty sure she would’ve dated him instead of the male lead, just because she thought he was the better choice

Like you said — he’s a loser, and later they make it seem like she’s doing him a favor by accepting him. And that’s exactly what the majority of viewers seem to like: a loser male lead and a “strong, independent” woman who doesn’t care about love — or at least doesn’t do anything for it. Meanwhile, the male lead has to do everything just to be worthy of her, because she’s supposedly so perfect. lol
and this is 90%of romcom kdramas dynamic

unfortunately it's kdrama even if fl only accept to be with him after all this they show it like she do him a favor, and he has to do everything else and love her unconditionally lol

Yes, and also, he’s not a "green forest" , so it’s easy to dislike him. This is exactly why I hate love triangles—10 episodes, and the main leads aren’t even together for 7 or 8 of them. Then they finally get together just to break up again, and that’s it. They don’t even get one full episode where they just love each other, and call it romance kdrama 😅🙃

To put it simply, she’s a strategist—so even when she loves him, she loves with her mind, not just her heart. But after he falls for her, he loves her unconditionally, trusts her completely, and always makes her his first priority. And I think we agree she didn’t do the same. The fact that she didn’t tell him about the tunnel is proof of that. amd it's not wrong do that because she has her valid reasons but it shows her level of love .

Yes, there are exceptions to these clichés, like The Road Home, Hidden Love, Lighter and Princess, Intense Love, and Forever and Ever—these are the ones I remember. In these, the FL also shows her love just like the ML, and sometimes she even loves the ML more than he loves her.

And you're right, it sells, so they always use this dynamic in romance to show the contrast between the ML and FL. It's always acceptable for the FL to act cold, serious, and love with her mind, while the ML is the complete opposite.

And you can feel that the FL can give up the ML’s love for her family or other things without much thought. But the ML would give up on himself if it meant getting the FL—not just his family or other things, lol. I always feel this way in romance C-dramas. In almost every one, the FL breaks up with or leaves the ML so easily, then comes back after years—she find the ML still waiting for her, and he’s the one who has to chase her again 😅🤣😅,

it ended and it's a happy ending

I think you're wrong about the trust thing . She didn’t trust him completely like he did , and they got back together quickly only because the male lead loves her unconditionally and doesn’t expect anything from her after falling in love. Even when she didn’t trust him and he got mad, he forgave her very quickly and understood why she did it. He gave up his revenge for her and didn’t put his people first like she did.

I just wanted to say this because I feel like he did 70% or more in the relationship before she even started to think that she should make some effort too.

sorry I rant about a point you mentioned.

I really don't get why they always make the strong, charismatic, masculine male lead act like a loser just because he falls in love. Meanwhile, the female lead is always charismatic, independent, strong, and mature. He ends up being made into a joke, acting like an insecure teenage virgin, just to show that he's in love and has a "softer" side — which basically just means a loser side.

Why can't the male lead be like the female lead? Even when she loves the male lead, she still thinks with her mind and never acts childish to express her love. She doesn't show love by being insecure or jealous. It's always the male leads in C-dramas who completely change after falling in love. They love unconditionally, fall first and harder, and constantly chase the female lead.

The female leads always seem to have more important things in life than the male lead or loving him. It’s always the male lead who has to change, become submissive, and forgive the female lead even when she’s in the wrong — and often without an apology. He has to prove he's worthy of her to her parents, but you rarely see a female lead doing the same for him.

I don't blame him for a bit because he's like that and that's what he's, bit I blame the idiot fl for accepting him again and act like he's her best friend and laugh with him and ignore the one she start to like that fast, and she act after a day angry at her ex like he didn't do anything and she goes with him to Japan lol

first time I think because the ml is favorite for majority of viewers lol in other dramas you see two different teams fight in comments about ml or sml lol but in this drama and it's the first one i read majority didn't like the sml and love triangle lol

I don't even know if she likes him. If she does and still treats him like this, what would she do if she hated him after finding out about his lies 😅🤣🙃

and just wait till she knows his reasons for coming to her lol she will slap him and do more of she treated him like this when he's begging for a chance to date her ,lol

and don't forget there still a break up cliche also because of his reasons why he comes to meet her , so another episode without dating so at best will date for one episode and if it's a happy ending they get at the last minute lol

But they always portray it like: when men respect women, treat them well, and listen to them—they win. But the ones who don’t do that, who are bad toward women and don’t listen, are shown as idiots or weak, and they lose because they didn’t put women in high places.
This is one of the major feminist ideas in C-dramas overall.
They make it seem like: "Oh, he lost a good woman because he didn’t respect her or think she was smart, so he lost, and he’s not wise, and now his people suffer. But his enemy? He respected a woman, trusted her, and even fell for her—so he wins, and he’s the wise one!"
Basically, being submissive to your wife is seen as a good thing that makes you win. But when wives are submissive to their husbands, it’s always portrayed negatively in C-dramas, especially in this kind of drama.
The male leads are always submissive toward the female leads, but the female leads are never like that. They always have an independent mindset and love with their mind—not like the male leads who loves unconditionally.

But let’s be honest—she’s right. A husband’s duties are not a valid reason to abandon him or throw him to the wolves like she did. At least in this case, she is right. She’s more in love and actually puts her husband first, not her clan or family.
But Manman? It’s not that her husband has bigger responsibilities—it’s that she truly prefers her family and clan first. If she loses her husband for her family, she sees it as a good deal, ( she will feel sad and everything but at the end it's her family first) But if she loses her family for her husband, she sees it as a bad deal ( and will not be okay to stay with him after so she will lose him also)
And we’re talking only about this specific point, not in general.