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so is fl at least apologized and make effort to clear the misunderstanding or like always in Cdrama she didn't do anything and it's ml who make it clear and chase her even when she didn't apologize!? thank you

what's good about an reverse harem!? lol even in anime and it's not good when mc have multiple love interest so imagine a k_drama, at least for me and many other viewers 😅😂

this why mls in Cdrama are simps lol they love fl unconditionally even when break up with them it's just because they love them lol not for some red flags or something else 😅😂😂 and I bet they will not make him have any other women in those 11 years, not like her even get married like a rebound and a thank you gift for her friend ( like marriage is not a serious matter)

from what I know about c_dramas I bet they make her married to someone else and also have another man after him , and I bet also they will not make ml have anyone in those years 🙃😅😅 , thank you it's not a drama I watch, specially after reading she has a male friend that she reward his help with a marriage not even just dating lol .

at least they didn't make her end with him even if he did her a big favor not to take revenge on her too lol

sorry for the long paragraph lol and for my english,

I agree with you on only for love, and I also dislike how a grown woman doesn't know the basics about relationships and she was in one or more, and doesn't know also the basics about taking care of the house, and she doesn't even have the common sense to know to apologize when she do a mistake, and I dislike the cliche of that her ex is a regular man and after break up with him she gets perfect men fell for her and even fight to win her, and her ex is just a normal that doesn't even qualify to be in their level, ( I said it before her ex the lucky one that he breaks up with her because she's not a good girlfriend at least till the end she still gives her job most of her time even when she said love is also important not just the work, but it was just a say because the day after she gets late on her work and she even continue at their house and he was making her dinner ( the CEO) and she's a business journalist don't have time lol,

fireworks of my heart, I was enjoying watching it till she acted like children and left him because he didn't want to share with her past!!!? I was like😮‍💨 why did you leave him for that!? He did everything for you and never asked for anything and the only thing he asked to not ask about his past you don't think to listen and understand him and think he has his response and stay with him not going to your friend for days and make him suffer and even act rude and ungrateful and act like a child, it was the point I diskle about it and never think to rewatch it.

Like another C_drama, I was enjoying watching it till Fl made a stupid decision to leave ML and hide that she was pregnant even after 6 years she still hid it from him and he discovered it by coincidence and she still didn't do anything and he has to forgive her as nothing happened and he has to chase her again to be together!!! It was a good drama till that stupid plot Because there was no reason to do so it was just she acted like she was doing him a favor.

sorry for the long rants lol . and bad english.

They was good in some point,but when I dislike fireworks of my heart, when fl get mad at ml because he didn't want to say what happened to him in past and she treated him like nothing and he has to come from work and go to her friend house and she stay like that for days and not feel sorry for him and I find it ungrateful and red flag, Because if he didn't want to say anything she should think he has his reasons and stay with him and not leave him and act like a child, it was not a mature woman will do , and another thing is that she didn't do anything and don't now to do anything in the house even the basics she didn't know, and he did everything for her but she still make it about herself, I really dislike her and the drama when she did that, I was enjoying it even if he was doing everything and she was just reserving in the relationship and she was like a child he take care of I was not that annoyed till she leave him because he didn't want to share his secret with her I was like 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨, she didn't even think about him and that he di a lot for her so she has not to react like that, and take advantage of a little girl to know his secret!!

About only for love it's just a simp ( sorry for the word) with an unmature woman that don't know even common sense about relationships and she was in one before or even more, and she don't apologize and make him the one apologizing first even when he's not wrong , and it was another cliche of many perfect men fell for her and fight for her two CEOs , and again another cliche of fl don't do anything for ml at home and he has to place her shoes after she take it off like a child, and she prefers her Job more than him even at the end when she said she will give love also time she didn't and even work at home after coming late from work and he had to make dinner and breakfast and has time to be a good boyfriend, and they again make her the superwoman that she saved him and she make her two love interest work toghether and not be enemies in business lol, I just don't get how CEO has to wait for an article tao his all problem get solved or he will get bankrupt 🤡🤡, and let's not forget that big Vila have no workers it's just them both and she don't do anything so he has to do everything, I just don't like it because no equality or mature about their relationship if it's not ml making efforts they will never be tight specially with her idiot friend that don't know anything about relationships and act like she's an expert.

Go back Lover it was really bad how he was like a toy and always apologizing, I cringe when they sleep together and wake up and he apologizes afraid she is not satisfied so she will leave him I was like are you for real!!

what they talked about!? how it's she's a red flag and both has to not date her again lol !?!!

Yes, you're right. I agree with you completely.

Because of this, I have stopped watching C-dramas lately and just searching for something with a normal relationship where both male leads, make an effort and love each other equally. I am not interested in a red flag female lead who, in my opinion, does not deserve the ML's love based on how she treated him most of the time or a green forest ML whose only goal in life is to love the FL.

C-dramas are problematic in this regard because they often portray men as love slaves for the FLs, lacking dignity and acting abnormally, while the FLs are depicted as flawed individuals with experience in relationships. They are given time to heal from being with another man, and their development towards becoming independent and strong is shown. However, the MLs are typically just there to love the FLs unconditionally, doing everything to win them over and putting in all the effort in the relationship, even fighting with secondary male leads. I remember one drama where the FL, even after she gets married for real to the ML, SML still comes to her house and buys flowers for her along with her favorite drink. She sits with him in her pajamas, and ML fights with him to see whose drink she will choose. She just laughs at them. I was like 😵‍💫😒🤡. I don't have anything else to show. I watch some C-dramas, and I still feel frustrated when I remember them 😅😂😂.

For example, I got a crush on you, Lady of Law, Only for Love, and Fireworks of My Heart. Those are just a few examples, but they represent the majority of C-dramas like this. There are some other C-dramas I don't even consider watching because of what I read about how they portray the ML as a simp to a degree beyond the green forest level 😅🙃.

yes, I watched it many times because of how Fl loved ML even when he was bad and had a complicated personality and was introverted to a degree and was harsh towards her many times like when he was jealous and when he went to her parent's house, and in the prison, but she always loves him and she suffers so much because she loved him, but she never stops loving him, but at least he was loving her also so much and even if he did all of that it was just his way is had because he did that for her,

it was a unique Cdrama, but unfortunately they don't make fls like her recently

I watched many Cdramas but never found a fl like her, she's the only fl that loves ML even when he was harsh towards her which was a red flag and had a complicated personality and didn't show his love, but she still Loved him and waited for him for years and she even change her plan to do what he doing to help him, she's the only fl that act like mls act in most of Cdramas ( she was a simp 🙃😅) green forest

I just forget it, yes it was an exception also because Fl loves ml more and makes more effort, and she protects his pride more than herself, she's with the hidden love Fl, and road home Fl also, and if you watch forever and ever fl was also good and ml was soo shy and was green forest and fl deserve the best.

Lighter and Princess Fl is like a unicorn in the Cdrama world lol, ML was harsh sometimes like when he was jealous and when he made her hate him because he went to prison, but he also loved her Soo much and was planning to lose everything for her also and he created the company and give her half and protected her when she needs it, and take revenge for her.

waw, another ml without self respect, if they make it in the drama I will not waste my time watching it , I just get frustration, thank you for mentioned it.

the first frost drama, it's a recent one

red flag fls is just have trauma and evil exes and sad life lol , but when it's ml who had that they call him red flag and toxic and fl is doormat if she chose him over the green forest SML lol

a good explanation, thank you

It's never Old for them because unfortunately you may read in comments majority of viewers like these cliches, and if ML does something different they don't call them green forest lol, in Cdrama they always make MLs green forest love FLs unconditionally and don't get mad or angry at fl even if she breaks his heart, and he understands her and her reasons, I don't have any problem if they make mls like that, but they never make fls do that is my problem with this cliches, like it's green forest if ml do that but it's humiliation if an fl do it and it's ml who has to make more effort to apologize and beg for forgiveness,but fl don't have to do that because mls also has to be green forest and understand her situation and if he didn't it's his problem, and they always have a SML that love fl unconditionally so it's ml who has to be afraid to lose her if he didn't forgive her without her apologize or she chasing him, and it's never I read in comments saying fls are green forest they always make only mls, and it's not a problem for them if fls are not doing any effort to win mls, or love them equally by making also effort in the relationship, this what they make it looks in my opinion lol. Some good Cdrama I watch have fls also making effort and love ml equally are:
Hidden love( she loves him first and harder, the exception in Cdrama 🙃😅)
Road home ( one of best fls in my opinion)
Forever and ever ( a good mature fl )

I forget a couple of other Cdramas have a mature personality and they make an effort equally to mls and think logically not make MLs suffer to win her just because she's insecure or something.

Lol, are you new to the Cdrama world ?! Yes, it's a must MLs fell in love at first sight, and what is crazier is that it's not for her beauty, they later make it look like it's for her personality (that he doesn't know anything about her at that time), and even in some dramas when they show FL fell first, later they make a scene some years back that he fell for her or they have a connection when they were children lol, so it's always mls fell first and harder, and also don't date anyone else even if they have years never see each other or even if she break his heart, and still thinking about her always, and maybe even stalking her to see what she doing, like in TFF drama 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️😅😅😅

and why they always make sml fir fl in Cdrama, and most times fl don't have boundaries with him , and ml has to tolerate it and fight with him for her and be jealous in time to win her back!?

Afraid it will be like always ML has to chase Fl too long because he broke up with her in the past, and she will not forgive him fast even if she knew his reasons !! Not like if it fl who breaks up with ML in Cdrama they always make ML chase her even in that case, and not even mad at her lol, like recent Cdramas TFF, so is it like this if you read the novel or think it will be like this from how fl love him !!?
thanks