Am I the only one who's not mad at Indy? I feel like people here are focusing too much on the 2 leads POVs and…
Both perspectives are understandable, so it is better to sit down and talk about it rather than dropping hints.
Leelth seems to view the romance between him and Putter as an intimate realm that belongs solely to the two of them; naturally, then, he doesn't feel threatened by the secrecy, nor does he see it as a breach of trust. Think of your relationships with coworkers at work and your family at home—this last one is an intimate sphere you don't necessarily share with others.
Ultimately, the situation boils down to this scenario: someone is angry with you for some reason, yet you genuinely cannot think of any cause because, in your view, nothing is wrong. Your conscience is clear. Hence, the need to sit down and talk.
it ain't random tho ..it was kinda hinted at in the early episodes that he had a lil crush on indy
It’s funny; you can clearly tell that their suspicions and their grasp of romance are completely off-base. You only have to look at the fact that they fail to pick up on the situation between Putter and Leelth, whereas Indy notices it within just a few scenes[...]
It’s obviously a hasty conclusion on the friends' part, and at no point did the story ~actually~ suggest that Putter was into Indy. The protagonist draws that same conclusion early on but is proven wrong over the course of the opening episodes[...] The boy confessed his feelings to him twice—once in person—yet Leelth can't even keep a cool enough head to listen to Putter.
You see how different Putter act around Indy and LeeIth in earlier episode, that's what people do to people they…
I'm pretty sure that's only he being normal. He treats everyone else like this along the series. He was different (rude) to leelth because they argued [...] I think the real proof here that he (Putter) likes Leelth more than the others is the gradual development of their relationship from a really bad one to a good one. He shows himself open to this, which wouldn't happen otherwise. This have way more meaning than treating someone normally.
I gave up on their relationship about five times throughout the story, and I wasn't even the one in the situation. On both sides. But mostly on Ji Hoon's side—he isn't a bad person, just stupid, hahaha.
(this is long be prepared) BOY do I have a lot to say about this. First off, I really enjoyed it but some of the…
No, that guy is disgusting. There’s literally a part where he tells Bambi he should have just fucked her, like his friends suggested. He clearly has a sexist, violent personality, and he turns into that the moment she stops being a potential romantic target.
It was obvious he just wanted to sleep with her—I mean, if you genuinely care about someone, you don't act like a dog in heat (the scene at the recording studio) or turn into a jerk just because they don't like you back.
He orchestrated his own downfall; no trainee who cares about their career goes around publicly declaring their feelings for someone.
I’m not saying Bambi didn't make a bad call, but—I’m sorry—the moment he said, "If you want something, you have to give something," for a fucking song and moved in on her while she was clearly uncomfortable, he became nothing more than a wolf after a piece of meat. His subsequent actions just highlight his rotten character;
Bambi is no saint, but with a personality like that, he falls far short of being a "gray" character. The narrative was screaming this character's personality... abusive. As Villanelle aptly puts it in Killing Eve: "I spot bad people from a mile away; I'm afraid of those who seem nice." But well, to each their own moral code I suppose.
Watching this meant constantly screaming to myself (and to the protagonist): "Bambi, don't do it—Bambi, don't do it!" And honestly, aside from that god-awful scene where she moans along to the music and the whole Dream situation, Bambi didn't actually make such bad choices.
The characters here are unapologetically "gray"—just like any real person who falls a bit short of being admirable. But I hated Mhong. That was his name... Man, the actor played the role perfectly. I wanted him a mile away from Bambi; he was disgusting.
It makes me sad that women are constantly viewed through the lens of romantic potential, with no room left for friendship in relationships outside (and even inside) the family.
Its giving QOT and When the Phone Rings, but darker? I actually like how the FL ragebaits ML all the time. It…
Well, exactly. Her attitude was designed to provoke anger- not just from the protagonist, but from the viewers as well. It’s not exactly a mystery, yet many commentators don't grasp the intended dynamic. Some like her, like you do, but she’s driving me crazy, haha. Still, I do understand her personality. It’s a strong, proud one.
I don't know the profiles of the people making these comments- so perhaps some really are misogynists-but automatically labeling the act of disliking a woman as "internalized misogyny"?
Be careful with the claims you make. Not every character in a story is meant to be admired and loved by the audience—or even loved right from the start.
For the record, I’m a woman myself, and I don’t even know the lead actor... I also acknowledge that the dynamics of a marriage are too complex to simply label the female protagonist a bad person in this context. So, I’m judging her solely on professional ethics. Let’s wait and see.
Writing this actually helped calm my anger a bit, haha.
What does one thing have to do with the other? And simply disliking a woman doesn't amount to misogyny. Stop the nonsense... it's because you label everything as prejudice that real prejudice gets discredited.
"Just because it's in the synopsis, you can't hate her"- a couple can divorce for various reasons, and that doesn't necessarily imply a bad personality on the part of either character. The story was clearly designed so we wouldn't warm up to the female lead at first... that's the initial point of conflict. You're classifying the dislike of a female character due to her bad personality as misogyny? Or do you think her actions are praiseworthy? I'm not even talking about the marriage issue.
I thought dramas were meant to get you emotionally invested in the story. If it doesn't evoke any emotion, it's better not to watch it.
And, by the way, I hate her father just as much - are you going to call that ageism?
Zhan Wang was dying at the end, yet he ran after Xu Yuan. He has more stamina than I do (and I’m perfectly fine). The guy ran half the distance. What a ridiculous ending... how hard is it to write a sad ending about overcoming adversity instead of finding a magical cure? People die, and that’s okay, writing team...
MC collecting love interests like they are Pokemons. And what happened in episode 5? Haha. The plot is interesting and has a lot to work on so I don't know how the production team expected to finish it in 6 episodes of 9-10 minutes each. I mean they can finish it, but not in a good way.
Poor Sean, he got beaten up by his boyfriend (doppelganger) and even took a graze from a bullet... The funny thing is that Sean would get back with White even if it was White who beat him up 😅
The show started out well, but after the wedding it all went downhill losing any kind of logic. It feels like…
I think the drama doesn't have the time or budget to cover the conflicts these problems involve. Clearly, everything is superficial, from the full acceptance of a stranger into a family of billionaires, who wouldn't marry just any random person, but the heir. Furthermore, from the middle of the series onwards, I felt strange because of Tim's drama. His parents traveling far away because of debts to gangsters is an extremely serious issue, but it was never really addressed. Besides, how much time are these gangsters giving Tim? I would have lost patience at that point, hahaha. It's like trying to condense a library book into a summary for your language teacher. You can't fit marriage drama, debts, and deception into 12 episodes.
I legit though the scene where Tim is with his parents, Pai and the Grandfather was a dream because how in the…
We don't talk about that... Just as we don't talk about the fact that an extremely wealthy family couldn't, or didn't want to, find out that the HEIR's boyfriend had a completely fabricated story (Tim clearly wouldn't be able to hide information so well).
THIS IS A DRUG, OMG. IT'S FUNNY, BUT IT HAS ITS SERIOUS MOMENTS. IT'S RIDICULOUS, BUT IT HAS EROTIC MOMENTS. I screamed like a crazy fangirl while watching. I'm blown away by the quality of this production! I didn't expect much from it, but the two protagonists have out-of-this-world chemistry. Our protagonist is a little silly sometimes, but the serious moments are serious moments! I'll just wait until it finishes to give it 5 stars...
Fear does that. I still do not have the courage to watch it again just yet but tonight I will try.
Fear should also have the opposite effect. The protagonist repeatedly experienced the consequences of words spoken without thinking. In every situation he faced, he worsened his own situation by speaking. At that point, his mouth should have become unable to speak, his heart should have started racing, any reaction would have been sufficient, since he had already experienced the consequences repeatedly.
Doesn't your body start protecting you when it recognizes that certain actions put you in situations of greater stress or danger? And you can tell me how that actually happens in the series (him getting nervous and not being able to speak), but I would say it would be a constant block. Not the kind that leaves you sitting in the witness chair and continuously answering questions from the prosecution – which only leads you further into trouble.
Anyways, these situations are difficult to judge, as they vary depending on the person's personality. And these are emotions that are difficult to simulate.
Leelth seems to view the romance between him and Putter as an intimate realm that belongs solely to the two of them; naturally, then, he doesn't feel threatened by the secrecy, nor does he see it as a breach of trust. Think of your relationships with coworkers at work and your family at home—this last one is an intimate sphere you don't necessarily share with others.
Ultimately, the situation boils down to this scenario: someone is angry with you for some reason, yet you genuinely cannot think of any cause because, in your view, nothing is wrong. Your conscience is clear. Hence, the need to sit down and talk.
It’s obviously a hasty conclusion on the friends' part, and at no point did the story ~actually~ suggest that Putter was into Indy. The protagonist draws that same conclusion early on but is proven wrong over the course of the opening episodes[...] The boy confessed his feelings to him twice—once in person—yet Leelth can't even keep a cool enough head to listen to Putter.
I think the real proof here that he (Putter) likes Leelth more than the others is the gradual development of their relationship from a really bad one to a good one.
He shows himself open to this, which wouldn't happen otherwise. This have way more meaning than treating someone normally.
It was obvious he just wanted to sleep with her—I mean, if you genuinely care about someone, you don't act like a dog in heat (the scene at the recording studio) or turn into a jerk just because they don't like you back.
He orchestrated his own downfall; no trainee who cares about their career goes around publicly declaring their feelings for someone.
I’m not saying Bambi didn't make a bad call, but—I’m sorry—the moment he said, "If you want something, you have to give something," for a fucking song and moved in on her while she was clearly uncomfortable, he became nothing more than a wolf after a piece of meat. His subsequent actions just highlight his rotten character;
Bambi is no saint, but with a personality like that, he falls far short of being a "gray" character. The narrative was screaming this character's personality... abusive. As Villanelle aptly puts it in Killing Eve: "I spot bad people from a mile away; I'm afraid of those who seem nice." But well, to each their own moral code I suppose.
The characters here are unapologetically "gray"—just like any real person who falls a bit short of being admirable. But I hated Mhong. That was his name... Man, the actor played the role perfectly. I wanted him a mile away from Bambi; he was disgusting.
It makes me sad that women are constantly viewed through the lens of romantic potential, with no room left for friendship in relationships outside (and even inside) the family.
Be careful with the claims you make. Not every character in a story is meant to be admired and loved by the audience—or even loved right from the start.
For the record, I’m a woman myself, and I don’t even know the lead actor... I also acknowledge that the dynamics of a marriage are too complex to simply label the female protagonist a bad person in this context. So, I’m judging her solely on professional ethics. Let’s wait and see.
Writing this actually helped calm my anger a bit, haha.
"Just because it's in the synopsis, you can't hate her"- a couple can divorce for various reasons, and that doesn't necessarily imply a bad personality on the part of either character. The story was clearly designed so we wouldn't warm up to the female lead at first... that's the initial point of conflict. You're classifying the dislike of a female character due to her bad personality as misogyny? Or do you think her actions are praiseworthy? I'm not even talking about the marriage issue.
I thought dramas were meant to get you emotionally invested in the story. If it doesn't evoke any emotion, it's better not to watch it.
And, by the way, I hate her father just as much - are you going to call that ageism?
Doesn't your body start protecting you when it recognizes that certain actions put you in situations of greater stress or danger? And you can tell me how that actually happens in the series (him getting nervous and not being able to speak), but I would say it would be a constant block. Not the kind that leaves you sitting in the witness chair and continuously answering questions from the prosecution – which only leads you further into trouble.
Anyways, these situations are difficult to judge, as they vary depending on the person's personality. And these are emotions that are difficult to simulate.