W two worlds Season 2 sc

My fav writer, for the "twilight zone" feeling and logic she put in her fantasy stories.
And also the work about scene order, montages and many visual tricks.
But I have some other screenwriters I could like as much without this extra-plus.

I remember a bit this interview about ending, it's not really what she said.
I think she needs to get the ending before writing with complex stories like that.
It's more she doesn't think a lot about the feeling on audience, happy, unhappy or whatever.

She said she got negative critisism about Nine ending. I'll rewatch that in the future. But from memory it was an ending looking sad, but last events shows it's not so.

She uses always the same kind of ending. The guy is lost, but something happens using the high-concept and miracle! the guy come back at the very end, in one way or another (very twisted way in Nine). +she doesn't explain really how, and audience have to guess, using the clues to find in the drama. People who love what she does will find, others will be angry and says it's plot-hole. LOL!

Very interesting about the thematics. I don't look enough at this kind of thing.
I rewatched x2 the first two episodes. And rewatch the two first episodes of Penthouse.
On this, I find 7-escape better, but should take a full comment to explain why and how.
On the long run (going ep 9-10), I can't say the same, but I need more rewatch.

I don't try to compare much because I want to be immersed in this drama.
I still notice the drama is more uneven.
Episode 2 is better than penthouse, and the situation on the island more crazy.
But the episode after, it falls on something less good than penthouse.

This drama is quite ok. The basic is set: cartoonish, absurd and unrealistic events. BUT, they have real consequences. What is narrative logic.

You are forever my friend. 😘

No. The FL is the one who hasn't martyred a man important in her life so far.

Overated, overhyped.

Exposition of this drama is bad. No wonder you can't track anyone.

Better hospital playlist band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3U6d2M8RU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQXQOfq2yFk

Can anyone help me? This show looks great, BUT... In the past, I was disappointed by the writer.
Goblin was so slow and boring. Almost no plot. Nothing hitting hard during most of the drama.
Insanely OVERATED.
Is The Glory fast-paced and addicting? With lot of powerful moments and cliffhangers?

Currently, I don't like the granma, and I'm happy she's about to get some trouble (last scene in the parking). And I like the villains, maybe because grandma and mother are so annoying. Hwa Ja is cute and stupidly hateful. I expect them to create real threats and the ep6 ends well with the FL stabbed by Hwa Ja (I wasn't expecting a stab in a so cartoonish drama). But I guess she could have a redemption arc later.

I don't know if you like the drama, but for sure, it's effective because you are fully trapped in it! You know, it's the same in dramas like Penthouse. The villains are so bad that everyone would like to break the screen, enter the drama and slap them.
I consider it a success for the writer when they are able to trigger such emotion in audience. Obviously, the villains were enough well written to make people react so madly. 😉
It's a concept I quote: "Audience love to hate bad characters."

Don't get angry, it's part of the story. You speak as if this was an official position.
Of course not. It's what create drama. And will have consequences in the story.
You know, it's fiction. If you want something quiet, watch a documentary about animals (but even here, it's not safe because I hear Lions eat a lot of other animals, lol).

Lot of toxic feminity. 😂😂😂

Don't take that too much on first level. I expect the story take that into account, so there is a negative payback for hers. First, you can see one already: they all have lose their husband. They couldn't build a couple on the long run. And in the last episode, you see how the mother will pay for harming her son, now he eats this dangerous pill.

I ship the FL with the villain, and the ML with the female police officer (she's cute and obviously, he's her love interest).

It's really coming from the script. So it's a choice from the writer. And yes, it's quite bad, a downfall from the first drama. And probably this screenwriter made some other good dramas, but I didn't watch them yet. (Mine, Woman of dignity, but I've drop Melting me softly)

So, why she does something like that now? Lack of inspiration? Or just on purpose? You certainly know the most famous kdrama screenwriter: Kim Eun Sook. I watched some of her older dramas and I liked.

Then ~2010, she gave a interview explaining she was changing her style. Instead to make complex drama about thematic like City Hall, she aimed to create the most popular thing. It made a scandal. Even myself was bitter about that. Where is the sincerity of the author?

Then she made ultra-popular dramas. Secret garden, Descendant of the Sun, Goblin. I still like the first one, but the others were boring, too cheesy. But anyway, she made the good choice about rating. Goblin is the most popular show. She said she didn't making art, but in spite of herself, she still have to put her creativity in it, so there is still visual art in Goblin. I could read the script episode 1, and the descriptions are more poetic than I expected with mood. (often, screenplay are more concise). Here the first scene (aproximative translation):
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#1. field (night)

An endless field of buckwheat flowers in a deserted field. The white buckwheat flowers bathed in the cold moonlight are melancholy.
In the middle of a field of swaying buckwheat flowers, a longsword is silently stuck.
The rusted and dull blade and the mossy handle bear the traces of time.
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(note, I find strange she repeat so much "buckwheat flowers", so it could be a translation error, you don't repeat things like that in a screenplay)

It gives a lot to the director about the intention, the atmosphere, create a visual picture in the reader's mind. It's a lot of text for that. But as the drama is slow, it's ok. This scene in the field, the director will create slow shots, then the editor will keep it long and smooth (and boring, LOL!).

So anyway, even for a purposely popular show, she does something good on the page. Just, I can't endure so many things in the story.

Then, it wouldn't surprise me than Baek Mi Kyung made the same kind of choice. On MDL, people are used to kdramas and watch tons, they forgive less. But see the rating on Netflix. (and whatever I say, they still love the slow and boring Goblin, ahah)

In Strong Girl Namsoon, we can find a lot of inconsistencies. It screams: just do that to move the plot in the direction I want, even it's stupid and unbelievable. But it happens often in any drama, even plot-holes if needed, as the goal is to be enteirtaining and have emotions in scenes, or hitting power. So, the writer choose something loosy for a better good.
Just, there is a limit I think. Do that too much, and it becomes painful if nothing make sens.

Note also this: audience can detect easely inconsistencies once they watch the drama, but they are very difficult to detect when creating and writing the screenplay. Plus, the production can create additional flaws. Directing/Editing. Because it's difficult to track all, and many people are involved. The character change clothes when it shouldn't. The prop guy choose the wrong one, anything. Or the set is not exactly what needed, or someone always ends to forget something. And they are all in a hurry, have to work fast. Pale-Pale-Pale korean way of working.

Information can be lost in the process. And the screenplay has to be precise on the main points, but can't describe everything. It's supposed to be read at the same speed you watch the drama. One page = One minute on average. Lot of cuts to do in the text. I said it's a technical document. A strange one. Not a novel, but need to keep flavor a bit like a novel, but also give the specifications. Just like in an engineering or architecture firm. The designer gives this, and the other workers don't question what's there, they build what's on the plan, step by step.

In the kdrama "All of us are dead", there is a giant explosion in a building on a construction site. And the scene after, you see a plastic curtain beyond, on the stage. Impossible! It should have burn. Why is that? Maybe the shooting happened before the explosion? Someone forgot?Just they couldn't remove that? (no autorisation, or the curtain was stick to the wall and they couldn't remove it)

Then, about what you mention, the shocking attitude of characters. It doesn't mean what the writer says. The writer is neutral (well, it should be). If you want to make a character looks bad: make them say bad things and do bad things. Grandma attitude is unacceptable, but see, it creates a conflictual scene when she argue with the mother later. The mother fatshame the son. Obviously, there should be a pay-off later, so she regrets, or have consequences: the son take a pill to loose weight even from a random girl. So, I dislike the drama, but the writer doesn't do everything wrong, she keep a narrative logic on many points.

Hi, you've got this one all wrong. I guess I should explain why. Aigoo. Let's go...

Sure, Baek Mi Kyung is a screenwriter (I said writer for short).
She creates the story AND produces a screenplay. A formatted technical document containing visuals, dialogue and the precise order of scenes. And even within a scene, the cinematic order (suggested and not necessarily using technical terms such as camera angle). Even short cuts (flashbacks, quick changes of location) are part of the screenplay, and don't come from Editing (what many people wrongly believe).

The director only has... a director's role! He studies the screenplay, understands the story as much as possible (possibly in discussion with the screenwriter). Then, he uses his composition skills and technique to convey the story as best he can. Feeling, theme. Example: a blocking shot to create opposition between two characters. His work is already huge. He and his team produce shooting sheets, indicating camera positions, the type of shot to be used, etc.

The director never asks the screenwriter what he wants in a scene; it's exactly the opposite. Especially for kdrama screenwriters, where each role is highly defined, and failure to respect the screenwriter's vision is a source of conflict. The only time a director asks for a change is if it's technically impossible or if there's a budget problem.

Example, screenplay W two worlds, Ep09, scene #89:
"Sung Moo turning the chair towards Soo Bong... Soo Bong, ...?!!!!
A man in a black silhouette without a face is sitting. "
The screenwriter wanted an obscure silhouette, like the black silhouette of the unknown character on the manhwa page. However, the director didn't have the means/budget to do it. This was replaced by a kind of faceless zombie, fulfilling the same narrative role.

Note: in Hollywood, on the other hand, when a screenwriter gives a screenplay, there are often tons of notes from executive producers and the screenplay undergoes huge transformations, which explains why an originally good screenplay loses its essence, becoming formulaic, targeting a wider audience, as revisions are made. Screenplays can be found on the Internet in their final draft, and sometimes as a comparison with previous drafts.

In Korea, as in the West, a director always has the last word and is allowed to change anything. But Korean directors almost never do. Still in W, the director made a few changes in the last episode. And that's about all the director changed in the entire drama.

With time and patience, you can find some original kdrama screenplays on Korean websites. With even more patience, if you don't speak Korean, you'll be able to translate them. You'll see just how accurate the screenplays are, unaltered by the filmmakers.

So, most of the flaws in a drama come from the screenwriter. Even the tone is apparent in the screenplay. Here, a "cartoonish" tone.

I'm disapointed also with 5-6.
Too much slow down, not enough shit.

+She's cute in a wild way. I like pretty female villains.

For people watching older dramas, I'm sure you noticed that:
Granma love interest is the infamous Jo Pil Oh from Giant.