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Replying to GwenchanaGwenchana Mar 24, 2021
Title Sisyphus: The Myth Spoiler
Can you tell me what is happening with the leads. I mean the romance tag was not there and it was pure scifi?
Because it's not romance, it's love. ^^
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Replying to W two worlds Season 2 sc Mar 24, 2021
For 4 years:- She is unable to take charge of her love life, otherwise she wouldn't have needed to activate the…
Thank for you answer too. It's a quite a good explanation for balancing the two points of view. And I was curious to get that from someone who know or enjoyed the drama better than me.
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Replying to W two worlds Season 2 sc Mar 24, 2021
Title Love Alarm Season 2 Spoiler
For 4 years:- She is unable to take charge of her love life, otherwise she wouldn't have needed to activate the…
She should have bought a dog. The support effect would have been higher and she would not have hurt anyone. Sorry for that joke. ^^

The answer to your question, to the heart of the matter:
- Hye Young becomes the guy who considers the love alarm important.
- While Sun Ho becomes the guy who doesn't care about the love alarm anymore.

That's why Hye Young loses patience. The fact that Jojo cheats to make her love alarm ring is the proof that she doesn't love him and needs to use a trick. Of course Jojo has another ready-made explanation, which no one believes (Except Hye Young, lol). She just makes the choice to force herself to love him, even if she don't say it like that (which makes no more sense than all the other nonsense she does in the drama). If she loved him, she would have told the truth about the shield without waiting 4 years. And she would have told him that she simply loved him. In reality, she just needed that comfort relationship as a crutch. An unhealthy relationship on the long run, since it was one way. Which the guy accepts, but after all, he was stupid enough to never make any decision. As little reaction as an eternally dreamy teenager. He was unable to move on, as he was unable to confess his love when younger, or at least try something as little like, just speak with her.

On Sun Ho's side, he decided to do away with love alarms. To trust his instinct and desire. So he makes the decision to forgive, because he has always acted and always had the courage to take an initiative, even if he have to cross lines. The character, despite his clumsiness, reacts like a man.

Here, girls praise Hye Young's alleged human qualities as the nice guy, willing to accommodate the girl's needs. But the girl has the right to trash everything and not give anything or consider his needs? Sorry, this will never work. Love is giving and receiving. If a girl imagines that she can do that in life, she can immediately buy cats and make a permanent cross on men. A man is not a babysitter. He can respect, take care or protect a girl, but not in an absurd relationship where the timing has been exceeded.

And for those who are annoyed that Sun Ho tried to approach Jojo while she had a relationship (equally loveless, no one wonder with Jojo, lol) with another guy before: it would be good to reread the classics such as the story of King Arthur, Genever and Lancelot. Both lovers dare to live their love and the male character takes risks as much as the female character is receptive. Jojo is a failed Genever, who shrinks back into her snail's shell, and ends up as Madame Bovary. Any man who fall in love of a girl living a loveless relationship won't hesitate, and it's the right thing to do, but quite risky, because if the girl is happy with this kind of thing, you can expect a lot of troubles.

In traditional dramas, as in real life (which is thus depicted despite the fantasy aspect of dramas), guys like Hye Young never get the girl. It's cruel but fair. It's already too late from the beginning. They can play the doggie as long as they want, the girl always ends up falling in love with someone else. Whether it's the male lead in a drama, or another man who will come later, in the case of love alarm, if you consider that the relationship with Sun Ho is a painful love failure that is past and buried.

Hye Young was just a comforting and boring balm, like an old friend, or brother. The girl can sleep without taking any risk, like the sleeping beauty, this guy will never wake her up, she need the right man kiss for that. As well Yook Jo was a comforting balm for Sun Oh, and maybe a sexfriend too. And all he can feel for her at the end is pity (the scene when she cries tight to him was beautiful and poignant). He's decision to wait to love her make no more sens. Never in life it could happens. When you meet a woman, you now fast you could potentialy love her (even if it's not done, could fail, or feeling are still shorts at this point), and that never happened here. He could wait 20 more years without ring the love alarm. This drama is really about comfort relationships, so, unhealthy ones because it's not love but chosen arrangements. At this point, as well wait the mother in law choose the wife in a cheabol family.
So, about the "spear" scene on the bridge, I take the fact the scene was shot during sunset as a symbolism of soul extinction. But I'm also ok with another symbolism like "last chance before the night". We can see Yook Jo+Sun Ho "ultimatum" scene was also during sunset.

The funny thing is that if we are logical with the drama, and Jojo gets married with Hye Young, this is exactly what will happen to her some time later. She will have an extramarital relationship, and will quickly break up with Hye Young if she has the courage (With her, not sure). It's ok to make a drama called World of the Maried season 2, the cuckold will be the guy, so Hye Young, this time.

Of course, all this makes the audience angry. Not only because it's about Sun-Ho and the girls are fangirling Sun-Ho. I'm a man, and can't fangirling Sun-Ho, only one I'm fanboying is Kim So-Hyun (which was perfect both about to be pretty and acting here).
This makes people angry because it's a fake love story, which they try to pass off as real. What people explain awkwardly by the expression "there is no chemistry". It could have been successful as a bitter social satire.

There is a drama which plays well with this impossibility for the passive guy to become the final lead, it is Manhole. The drama is very funny, and finds a very special trick to arrange the life of the hero. And even more funny, the drama shows that the poor guy had almost no chance, even if he lived several lives.
Then another drama that chooses a very daring solution: Jealousy Incarnate. I'm not sure this love story could work on the long run however.

I gladly take as true your explanation about the confusing effect generated by this damn application! It doesn't help Jojo's already emotionally difficult life because of her childhood trauma. If we are logical with the tempo of the dramas, there is no chance for her to succeed even if she has resolved her trauma, as long as she has not paid back her debt for all the harm she has caused by her new decisions since then. But that evaporates like magic here.

I'll say it again: I'm not an expert on this drama. It was too boring and flat for me and I have a hard time keeping it in my memory. That's my general impression after watching it. But if the impression the drama leaves is that, there is something wrong. There are surely details that need to be better examined. Such as the trigger that pushed Jojo to at least try something (even if she does the wrong thing). The accident with the psychopath for example.
There are other things to examine, like Jojo accepting Sun-Ho's last kiss. Which is the last thing you want to do when a guy cares that much about her and she doesn't care. To think that she's doing anything to break him. When at this point in the story, she should have moved on.
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Replying to got2be Mar 24, 2021
Title Love Alarm Season 2 Spoiler
I agree. Jojo and Sunoh had physical chemistry, and he understood things about her without having to ask. (Unfortunately…
Scene : Jojo is with Hye Young.
Suddenly, Hye Young love alarm ring !
Who is writed on the smartphone screen ?
ANT
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Replying to Ly Harriet Bui Mar 24, 2021
This is a rare drama I have watched in which the main female lead is in charge of her love life and makes her…
For 4 years:
- She is unable to take charge of her love life, otherwise she wouldn't have needed to activate the shield in front of Sun-Ho, or would have accepted her feelings for Hye Young, if they had existed.
- She doesn't solve her problems, she has no real feelings for anyone, which would make her accelerate this.
- She is dependent on a guy for her emotional comfort and to make her daily life more bearable.
- A guy who doesn't support her anymore because he lets her languish in inaction. "Do nothing, I support you in that". :-)
- A guy who is simply more patient than the previous one because he is afraid of losing her.
- And who finally loses his patience suddenly when he learns that she lied. Not supporting her at all, while the previous guy is still willing to forgive her.

The whole drama revolves around this theme of a girl who is lost and unable to know where she is going, unable to take charge of her life, except for working at the grocery store. Besides, there are tons of voice-overs where she is constantly questioning herself. It what make the drama quite funny as well.
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Replying to Koteuni Mar 24, 2021
YESSS. ALL OF THIS. With some of the other commenters I wonder if we are all watching the same drama.
As I said, it could make a good story, but not a love story.
Watch drama like Love Story In Harvard for that. ;-)
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Replying to Koteuni Mar 24, 2021
YESSS. ALL OF THIS. With some of the other commenters I wonder if we are all watching the same drama.
Honestly, this is just my general impression, and I'm not an expert on this drama, I've forgotten many parts already. Consider I could be wrong because I missed something.

Her first love is now a thing of the past. However, where I really doubt the veracity of the story is that she chooses Hye Young. After seeing this case many times IRL, the second guy who was used as a tool is also rejected because there was never the spark of love with him. It is an unknown person who appears in life. If I were to redo the ending of the drama, I would also fail the story with Hye Young. I would stage in the last episode a meeting with another man. Without taking the time to develop if it is the last episode, but leaving enough clues to make the mutual attraction between this man and Jojo clear.
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On Love Alarm Season 2 Mar 24, 2021
Acidic summary:

Jojo meets true love with Sun-Ho. The kind of thing that makes you anxious, makes your eyes twitch, takes away your appetite, and drives you crazy in general. Unfortunately, they are both too immature. The guy play dirty, while the girl is afraid to face her feeling because her inability to solve her inner conflict in time. It's over, love story fail.
End of the story. Which is acceptable.

But then, this is the fun part. The girl is going to use the 2nd guy as a backup plan to take time to think about her problems. Which she's not likely to do, since there's no incentive for her to do that anyway. There's no love spark, but she can still use the guy as a tool, and that's a good comfort zone. This guy is just as selfish as the other guy in another way, and he hangs on like a puppy, seeing clearly that for 4 years the girl doesn't care and isn't moving forward in her life. She's even more selfish because she needs at least someone next to her, but if she really loved him, she would have at least given him a kiss, which she doesn't fail to do every time the other guy comes back to see her, when he certainly should have let go as well considering how irrational the poor girl is. But I understand them, it's Kim So-Hyun, what man really has a choice?

Finally, she doesn't need to listen to what her heart says (her real love alarm), she can cheat the fake love alarm and proudly declare, like a modern and empty girl, that she made a choice. Has this ever happened to you? I'm single, it can't last any longer. I'm just going to go to my building concierge and declare that I've made the choice to meet love. She's a lovely and helpful woman, I'll make my confession to her. That way, at least, I'll be less lonely.

End of story: the girl stays with her backup plan, refuses to find love in her life and becomes an avatar of Madame Bovary. To make the message more clear : Sun Ho stay too with his backup plan. I'm fine with that too, and it's also a story that works. Gustave Flaubert was very successful with Madame Bovary.
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Replying to Koteuni Mar 24, 2021
Hm. I absolutely hated this season. I've never regretted so much watching any show season as I do now. WTF. The…
Jojo is madame Bovary. ^^
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Replying to W two worlds Season 2 sc Mar 24, 2021
Title Love Alarm Season 2 Spoiler
So... Jojo is always ok to be kissed by Sun Ho.At first, or even 4 years after.But she didn't gave a single kiss…
She will marry Hye Young, but from time to time, Sun Ho will come to f.. kiss her instead of the other guy. And she will always be ok for that too. :-)))
The first drama heroine who prepares her extramarital relationship before getting married. lol!
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On Love Alarm Season 2 Mar 24, 2021
So... Jojo is always ok to be kissed by Sun Ho.
At first, or even 4 years after.
But she didn't gave a single kiss to the other boy during 4 years.
Ahhah ah ah, that messy girl. :-D
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Replying to W two worlds Season 2 sc Mar 22, 2021
The number of events and plot twists per episode reaches a score rarely reached in dramaland. I am unable to list…
- The fight between So-Jin and Eun Byul, which ends in a crying fit. It was a striking scene.
- As already anticipated for a long time, Yoon Chul learns who his daughter was. A scene where the actor can give everything he has to be torn.
- The scene when So-Jin learn her father helped her.
- The scenes between So-Jin and Dan-Tae. So-Jin is literally tamed by Dan-Tae, like a foolish and disobedient mare. She can resist as she can, Dan-Tae has unlimited power and brutality, this only leads to the inevitable escalation. If she thought she could get out of it by getting angry or making big eyes, she knocked on the wrong door.
- So-Jin is forced to do the housework, all the maids have been fired. That's why I think the only woman for Joo Dan Tae was the mad maid, the only woman crazy enough to submit to him completely. The problem is that the character likes to exercise his power, and he needs people who resist him to better crush them.
- The majority of the characters pay dearly for their former faults.

The story foreshadows an almost general coalition against Joo Dan-Tae. And even an alliance between former enemies to bring him down.

I lost track of Joo Dan-Tae's motivations a bit. This character has disconnected himself from any human connection. The last one left are his children, his last emotional motivation. But his children are ready to betray him.
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Replying to River Where the Moon Rises Mar 22, 2021
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She's far more pretty with her baby fat face (as you say). Love alarm S2, or previous dramas, like "While you were sleeping". In love alarm S1, we can see how it's dommageable to be skinny about her beauty. And it's the same for many others actress, as they get older, they try to excessively loose weight. Sadly, they loose weight and their beauty too.
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Replying to W two worlds Season 2 sc Mar 22, 2021
Since almost all the characters who are supposed to be dead are not (tsssss), I think Yang Mi Ok (the mad maid…
Perhaps the most severe punishment for him. He is powerless, he can no longer exercise his power over anyone. Instead, he is mothered by a crazy maid/nurse. She can make him do anything she wants. Punish him like a child. Or drug him if she has to. But for that, the mad maid has to understand that this is the only way she can have him forever. Otherwise, she would be submissive again and he could use her to escape.

She could play with his nerves, make him think she's going to obey him, then say:
MM - no, only here you will agree to live our love.
DT - but I don't love you, you crazy woman, I'll kill you, as soon as I get out of here I'll kill you.
MM - no matter how long it takes, I know you will love me one day.
DT - Aaaaaaraaahhhhh.
MM - He open his mouth like a good boy to take his pill.
DT - Aaarrhh GLOUP (forced to swallow)
MM - There, now we're going to have a big hug.
DT - (Slime drip)
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Replying to KRN Mar 22, 2021
are season 1 &2 connected?can i directly watch season 2
they are 100% connected.
consider it as a single drama, but cut into 3 parts.
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Replying to Scarlet Mar 22, 2021
I laughed so hard when Seojin was cutting onions while Jo dan te watching her :D
I don't know if you've been paying attention, but in the holding room, there were several maid outfits. I think it's a shame that So-Jin was not in maid's clothing, on top of that. :-D
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Replying to Oppadrama Mar 22, 2021
Like seriously, I have been thinking of that, film writing is my major, but whoever that wrote penthouse is simply…
The scriptwriter Kim Soon Ok has a very great experience. She has written many very long dramas (many episodes). And often dramas that have crazy ratings. She also caused some scandals, like with her drama "Temptation of wife". The Korean government almost imposed stricter censorship rules. But finally it did not do anything because the ratings of this drama were too high. People love this kind of immoral story. Compared to other authors who wrote daily makjang dramas, Kim Soon Ok's dramas have a strong structure. It's not written on the fly. Besides, weekly makjang dramas also have a structure.
For a long time, there has been a sense of irony in Kim Soon Ok's dramas, and dark humor. But since Last Empress, she has reached a new stage in the delirium, sometimes producing self-parodying scenes or plots of her own style. And the pace of her dramas has accelerated. Penthouse is very fast-paced.
Myself I'm writer too, but amator one, I've no project to make it professional. You can check my profile if you want. There is link to my work.
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Replying to nosnoop Mar 22, 2021
well, next season maybe worse as there are rumours that S3 is going to be one episode per week.
Maybe because they want to air it more sooner. So, it won't be preproduced and episodes shot during broadcast.
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Replying to minheesode Mar 22, 2021
I dont think its a twin (or I hope it isnt) I kinda wish its plastic surgery because that's an option too and…
Nice explanation. Actualy, if it's this, it's a brillant idea.
JDT turned a woman according his wish, to replace the one he want.
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