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Replying to pcharlotte787 Jun 14, 2020
LR was shot in the leg in episode 15. I'm sure TE would know how to take advantage of that wound. Also, TE took…
To love a scene like that, you need a clear situation already.
At that moment, I was already asking myself other questions, alas:
- It takes two pieces of flutes to travel back in time, why does Lee Gon do it when Tae Eul didn't travel with him all the way to the end?
- Time travel can only take place at the point where the flutes were cut off, not before. However, they arrive before the flute is broken. Nonsense. And if that was the case, we might as well go back a week and take the flute before anything else. We can even go and kill Lee Lim in his bed, we can even go and kill Lee Lim's grandfather! Because Yoyo Kid said something? Good, he can say anything in this case, it happens. What suspense!
- What's the use of taking the risk of getting stuck in the in-between world, when if Tae Eul goes out in 1994 with Lee Lim:
1) she will be able to kill Lee Lim easily (it's amazing that her beloved lover Lee Gon never told her about his adventures and the story of the objects which no longer works).
2) she is sure not to lose her memories.
- Why didn't Lee Gon offer her to come, already, instead of giving her a tearful farewell? For a supposed genius, it was the obvious solution, the sure way for Tae Eul to be subjected to the same conditions as him, to keep her memory.
- Why did Lee Lim say that he and Tae Eul would get stuck in the in-between world, when world would cease to exist. And where does he get this makeshift idea that they would stay there forever when they don't have a flute? Lee Lim isn't very smart either. If his old self takes the flute, the two previous flute pieces disappear, and this in-between world ceases to exist, since it is the passage between the two worlds that Lee Gon wants to close.
- As a proof, time starts again there, and the in-between world ends up self-destructing. The two worlds of the flute pieces merge at the end, and the red balloons invade the world of the pictures.
- And why do they stay in the in-between world so long after the flute has been retrieved by the other Lee Lim? Misplaced flashback? Wrong chronology of the narration? Quick answer: a rotten scene with Shin-Jay intercalated at the wrong time. Answer maybe incomplete. Bad narration, as usual.
- For some illogical reason, the pictures are destroyed, not the red balloons, while the whole dimension is collapsing.
- Why is the body of the other Lee Lim disintegrated? Note that even if it had been the Lee Lim of the past who dies and then the Lee Lim of the future who disintegrates, it would have been very bad too.
- How can Tae Eul survive this cataclysm? By what magical operation does she find herself elsewhere in another time? While theoretically, it is out of time and space, or at least at a point in time between 2020 and 1994 in the in-between world. More 1994 if we want to minimize the plot-hole. So the Tae Eul we see here is subject to the same temporal rules that affected Lee Gon on his first trip. If she wants to be herself again, with the wobbly process of merging memories, it must use a way to go back to the future. But anyway she could be destroyed, or be magically moved anywhere at any time, without us ever seeing anything or knowing how it works. There is absolutely no reason given for her to be back in her home world with her memory, having merged ROK's Tae Eul with the one that was in the in-between world, which logically should have been destroyed, or evacuated anywhere else.
- And if the process of merging memories is systematic, why doesn't Lee Gon merge with the old Lee Gon who went back in time to the beginning of the drama?
- And if he doesn't merge, how would he replace him? Normally, he would have to come to the crime room, and see another Lee Gon, the one who was there at the beginning of the drama.

That's one of the reasons why this drama is a big mess about the logic of things. As for the total disaster on the narrative level, it's explained in my review (but I didn't have the motivation to write something as structured as I would have liked).
I could go on for hours, but all these insoluble questions because of a bad drama unable to establish a minimum of coherence exhausts me ...

The reasons why people love this drama? Because we can serve bad things up without a problem. Look how successful fast food restaurants are! People force themselves to love for various irrational reasons like Lee Min Ho or whatever.
You're enchanted by the poetic aspect, aesthetics and all that. You don't even need the rest. If the drama is completely screwed up and unreadable, that doesn't stop you from unplugging your brain and looking at pretty pictures even if they are edited anyhow, without any intelligible narrative sense. So read the avalanche of comments and reviews from disappointed people. But you already know it, and because you took things in reverse, you may have had the motivation to review episodes and try to go deeper into the subject, try to understand the drama better despite the infamous mud that was being poured week after week. But that's not the way things work, and without a solid storytelling in the first place, no one wants to see something that bad again. I forced myself to do it as far as I'm concerned.
Note that your motive to love drama is still more noble than the actor's stubborn fans.
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Replying to ladybird_KV Jun 14, 2020
Ep6 : So far,I like this drama !The integration of real life science and turn it into a sci-fi drama was a superb…
real life science, lol!
where ?
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Replying to pcharlotte787 Jun 14, 2020
LR was shot in the leg in episode 15. I'm sure TE would know how to take advantage of that wound. Also, TE took…
Ahhh!!!! That's not the point!!!
And it's not hope anyway making the gun shot.
When I look at this scene from beginning to end, it's very successful in terms of the poetry, and the various meanings put into it. You even have the defeat of the bad guy, symbolized by the arrival of the red balloons and all that!
But in order for poetry to reach its goal, you need a story that will hold up! We're in a drama, otherwise we might as well read a book of poems.

The scene is aesthetically/philosophically successful, but totally failed for the "mind-blowing" aspect. And to manage to place this scene at all costs, the screenwriter had to miss out on any coherence. So she can place any aesthetic scene, with a mickey poem, anytime, for no reason!

For this scene to stand, it was really necessary to work on the context, to define the rules of fantasy, and to include the inevitable events that lead to this scene. That's the basis of a script!
If you don't do that, well it's simple, anyone can tell anything, and I assure you that you'll find lots of people a hundred times more talented than this writer to do that.

Also, it's totaly impossible to get immersion in this drama, so bad is the narrative all along. I already explained 100 times. If you don't understand what you see, you are put out of immersion. You need to rewatch, analyse, go on blog, thinks more after. No immersion in the drama itself.
When you see things without context or coherence, you also get out of immersion immediatly. It's not new, it had been like that in all cinema history.
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Replying to pcharlotte787 Jun 14, 2020
LR was shot in the leg in episode 15. I'm sure TE would know how to take advantage of that wound. Also, TE took…
You only gave me a philosophical explanation that goes with the scene, not something that explains the facts. So, you yourself as a fan of the drama, you don't know what happened. It's a pity that I understand things more, when this drama has exhausted me, it's getting on my nerves, and just seeing it again makes me nauseous.

So, no, it's not the pretty "flower of hope" that's behind the gun's operation. And on the other hand, as I parodied it on another blog: "What could be more poetic than the power of a flower to shoot and kill an unarmed guy, when it was so easy to smash his face with a teakwoondo high-kick anyway".

I'll leave you to figure out the real explanation, because I'm sure you love doing that. And I'm also sure you'll find several. And, yes, that's how it works. The screenwriter doesn't need to give an explanation, the spectators try to do so by speculating on almost nothing, then end up in logical dead ends when their theories collapse against each other.
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Replying to pcharlotte787 Jun 14, 2020
LR was shot in the leg in episode 15. I'm sure TE would know how to take advantage of that wound. Also, TE took…
And why the gun fire ?
Interresting question, because here cause and effet isn't show in a clear way. There is the usual mess. Flashback scene but you don't know it's a flashback. Situation splited with other disturbing thing so you loose track. And anyway nothing clear and certain. You can imagine what you want.

This scene was never intended to be consistent with SF laws. It's an aesthetic and cool scene, with a slightly poetic or philosophical meaning. The writer is just saying "it has to happen that way because it has a good hit power". I have nothing against that. But in this case, the script has to be solid to allow the audience to believe what they see, and there has to be enough evidence of what's happening, why or how.
Here, the result: it becomes Disneyworld.
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Replying to W two worlds Season 2 sc Jun 14, 2020
A plot-hole I hadn't seen, among many others.It would be worth making a list of all the plot-holes, they are numerous…
Here's an ultra-known rule when it comes to screenwriting. It's about building a good villain. I can't remember everything, but at least this part comes to mind:
- A good villain must exceed the hero's abilities. That's why the hero becomes a hero, because he manages to overcome a serious challenge.
But Lee Lim really fails at everything!
He gets caught stupidly in the forest?
What's the occasion?
He had a serious lead.
When he got the flute and opened the portal, I finally thought something interesting was going to happen. That he was going to get in, that he'd achieved his goals, and that things were going to get worse. I have no idea how it's going to get solved, but you just have to think of a scenario.
But no, in the end, there's nothing there at all. And anyway, there wasn't enough time left for that. It would have had to happen a few episodes earlier, at least.
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Replying to floweryra Jun 14, 2020
Sorry @kimsamsoom, but I have the same question for that scene lol. To put my mind at ease, I assumed he couldn't…
So, why she needs a gun ? ^^
It's endless... If you want to avoid plot-hole in this drama, it's not the screenwriter work, it's yours.
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Replying to Noona Jun 14, 2020
I don't know. I didn't think it was that good, but I didn't think it was that bad either. It was a drama to just…
I know. It was that bad. It was a drama to loose time with.
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Replying to Aya Jun 14, 2020
Writers by now should know that time-travel messes up the whole story because they set some rules for the world,…
Doopleganger thematic mess up the drama far more.
But I'm agree there is no evident plot-hole for this, it's more how it made drama unreadable, splitted and overloaded.
Well, no evident plot-hole, except the origins one : two worlds far different make it impossible to get systematic DNA doopleganger.......
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Replying to Duray Jun 14, 2020
If you're interested in watching this drama, but are hesitant to, then I'd just go for it and give it a chance.…
I resume: the drama is crap.
If you want to loose time watching it, it's up to you.
Anyway who care about what others says ?
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jun 14, 2020
I think it's slightly implied here that LG cheated, and didn't come back when he was supposed to.The story is…
It doesn't make sense to say that you're away for a weekend when you're time traveling.
Lee Gon could easily go on a sightseeing trip with Tae Eul for months. When he returns to his starting point, not even a second has passed...
And if I'm told that he can't do that, then it makes the most sense, let me know when the drama clearly explains, or allows us to guess with certainty how the time travel system works, with what universal laws, what precise rules, and whether all these rules are consistent (of course, I can already say that they are not consistent with the little we see).
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jun 14, 2020
BTW, just another plot hole I realized.When TE and LR went into the time space world. LR could have easily gone…
A plot-hole I hadn't seen, among many others.
It would be worth making a list of all the plot-holes, they are numerous as soon as you think a little about what happens, depending on the dynamics of cause and effect that the drama established as certain.
The main concern is that the drama avoids as much as possible to state anything certain, leaves the spectator in the blur as much as possible, and that a lot of information is hidden for good.

For example, to hide the plot-hole you're quoting: you never see the characters enter or leave the in-between world.
The scene you're quoting contains a lot of other plot-holes, some of which are easy to detect. And that adds up to a lot of other things about the temporal process. Which makes Episode 16 terrible.

If you have the courage to review the drama, I think it becomes possible to find other plot-holes. Episodes 14 and 15, that's for sure.
Concerning the mess of episodes 1 to 10: there are very few inconsistencies related to what happens, movement of characters, chronology. But as the fantastic processes are regularly hidden or mysterious, nothing is certain about that.
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Replying to W two worlds Season 2 sc Jun 14, 2020
Funny things is I predicted this ending, but without plot-hole (well, you have to arrange it a bit so Lee Lim…
You just gave me some nice idea of alternate script about the whole drama, thanks.
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Replying to Sunset Jun 13, 2020
Same lol*waits for new batch of comments from those who waited to binge watch this*
It's a carnage, look!
This drama won't survive.
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Replying to Sunset Jun 13, 2020
oh wow I actually see myself on your list (even though I didn't actually discuss the drama compared to other people)I…
You are...
The Tourist: Temporary Visitor.
:-D
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Replying to db5kbb Jun 13, 2020
The drama has finally ended..it's been a great ride here on MDLKimSamSoomW two Worlds Season 2PranksalotBaek In…
There are 2 Amy. You forgot her doopleganger. ^^
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Replying to Unnie25 Jun 13, 2020
I haven't watched the last episode but I came on here to know what to expect. Lol
Imagine the worst, so you won't be disappointed.
Then be disappointed, because it's worse than what you imagined.
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Replying to db5kbb Jun 13, 2020
So I can assume the king did not have children...thus no heir?
And he's not eternal. And he also give up to be king or monarch.
Future queen is not queen anymore.
:-D
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