I don't get how it's possible to think they had sex. The phone rang just before Wang kissed In, and In likely…
I do appreciate that you think that I'm 25 years younger than I am. I'm actually older than In. Although he's the same age as my partner. (In, btw, is an older millennial.) Having actually lived in the past, I think you'll find that there were actually quite a few people who didn't wait around until same sex marriage was legal to forge ahead, and many managing closeted lives such that it wasn't actually a prison. So I'm not critiquing the character based on presentism.
In is a character who is carrying the weight of representing "the olds" in a series about intergenerational dialog, though. So I wanted to say that even in Thailand there would have opportunities for a wealthy academic to construct a life more positive than living in a dark prison secluded from the world in constant mourning for the only man he'd ever loved. That's just as inaccurate presentation of the past lives of gay Asian men as having a story where In and Siam got married and Thailand put their faces on a postage stamp in celebration because they were so happy for them. The lonely middle aged gay man cut off from the joys of modern social change is a bit of a stereotype, btw. One that allows society to congratulate itself too quickly on its progress.
Anyway, this series isn't over yet, so I don't know how it will end. I think they've been quite nuanced in this issue. But as it stands right now, I'm probably going to end up taking Sasi's side next week, but for different reasons. I think were I Wang's dad, I'd probably work to nip this relationship in the bud because I wouldn't want my son to join In in prison. "Still in prison, but someone there with him" is not a happy ending for me. In taking steps to get out of prison is o.k., but drawing someone else in there, not o.k. (Plus, I'd be a bit pissed about my son choosing to be a philosophy major. At least do a social science, kid. Cultural Studies is fine. Religion. Cool. But philosophy? NO.)
Episode 6 thoughts 1) I'm on the side that they did not "make love" that night, nor would they have even if mom didn't interrupt the mood with her call. The director hasn't had a problem focusing his lens on Nike's hunky chest and Pond's sensual twinkiness, so if they didn't appear to have sex, they didn't have sex. We'll know. That and its really not that great to have sex with someone who is about to cry, let alone actually crying. And I think in In's state, tears were more likely.
2) I did feel a bit sorry for Sasi as even her crew ditched her, but then I remember that Sasi's parties include psychologically torturous confession games and I'd tend to want to stay away from that with co-workers. No, I won't work better as part of the team if I find out in a round of "Never have I ever" that you once had a threesome in the bathroom at the Central Food Court and your parents never loved you.
3) Her speech, though, I'd like to have seen covered in livestream comments. "My fans, with their sad little lives, look up to me" is hardly something that would keep me as a fan, even if its true.
4) I'm actually glad that I'm watching this only 1 hour each week rather than waiting to binge. As much as I like it, I would probably zone out of the dialogue at the 3 hour point of the binge. They need to get outside and do something soon.
5) I guess my question is what has In then been doing in the meantime. He left his girl. He moved away. Did he really just devote himself to work and being a professor all that time and never tried to even start a relationship again? Even have a fling with fellow grad student? I'm skeptical. That's more pathetic than tragic.
Everyone but Bew dies in a fire would be a happy ending right now. Even if it turned out that it wasn’t an accident and Bew was seen leaving the building carrying an empty gas can.
Some character is going to have to outright explain what a “wifey” is. I’m a bit lost. The characters seem to know that it’s different from a boyfriend. It seems like it’s a more casual relationship than boyfriend. Like you can’t cheat on a wifey. Apparently. But you have to hide your sexual dalliances from them anyway as if you aren’t in an open relationship.
Does anyone wonder why Ayan carries that notebook around? If it's really important to him, he should just lock…
Before Rika committed suicide, he transferred a bit of his essence into that book as well as 5 different objects at Sampalo College. Ayun is at the college to identify those objects and bring them back together to revive his dark lord and destroy the muggles once and for all. Meanwhile, Nemo has the book and is slowly working his way towards the Samapolo library where the book was forged, to destroy it, ending Rika's reign of darkness forever. Ya'll have been reading this like its a BL "The Blacklist" or "The Gifted." its really a BL Harry Potter/Lord of the Rings mash up.
As for me, episode 10 reminded me that they needed to write the script with excuses for Jimmy to show off his body more frequently. He should have been in the shower, contemplating his life at least once an episode. Maybe when times were tough, trying to make ends meet as a dancer over at whatever this world's equivalent of Mama Gogo is.
Well, most episode 11 break ups in Thai BLs are because of some minor misunderstanding that normal people would talk through in 30 seconds. In this case, breakup caused by a misunderstanding about how the portkey rules work leading to an existential crisis. Can't say that's minor since it involves expanding one's knowledge of the laws of the universe to fix.
Finally. I guess the question is, would I want a season 2? I liked Shin and Asuka. The adult characters, less so. My fear would be that BL never does good sequels. They just come up with reasons to rehash the issues of season 1. So if the sequel was “Minato gets cold feet when he remembers another love from his pass” and it takes 12 episodes for them to kiss at the end, I wouldn’t bother to start watching. I might watch Asuka find someone else to date.
Why was Ray so upset with Jian when he himself initiated that kiss??
Because Jian's response to the kiss wasn't what he wanted. "I'll take your offer under consideration and get back to you next week" after that kiss was a bit of a let down. I think Ray doesn't want to make this a negotiation this time. Last time he did that, he ended up doing things to change himself for his ex and it still didn't work out. I think he just wanted someone to like him right away.
I am so sick of this in Asian shows that parental cruelty is always explained and whitewashed in a way. Now Xu…
Yeah. Those conversations were especially difficult to watch, but then we have more information than they did about just how controlling Ye Guang's parents are. And its not like Mother Xu is going to advise a 16 year old she barely knows to run away from home and come live with her. And it is usually considered bad in most cultures, my own included, for an adult to overtly interfere with someone else's parenting. She can offer an ear, but no real solution. She gave the advice that's acceptable for her to give.
Unfortunately, there's no cause to rally around until Ye Guang comes up with something he wants. And due to his upbringing, he doesn't want anything except to be able to relax a little bit and a chance to find a hobby he can be passionate for. (And Qi Zhang, too. Qi Zhang is like a hobby.) If he didn't have Qi Zhang, though, his story wouldn't be remarkable.
Peach's band took the rejection well. "Well, sure we've been working together for years, but go ahead and ditch us when we finally get an audition so you can snuggle up with your honey. We'll think of something. Don't mind us. We totally don't need a lead guitar or lead singer 3 days before our potential big break. Why don't you take the songs, too!"
Ye Guang's parents combine the worst part of Chinese parenting (your most important grade is how obedient or disobedient we interpret your actions at any time!) with the worst aspects of American upper middle class parenting (we need to consult an expert! I'm surprised they didn't hand him a jar of Ritalin at the end of that discussion).
Yeah, Ray Ray was a little bit much this episode, but I think he's responding to his past. I don't think with others it works out well when they say "I have to think about it." That doesn't go well for him. He let his ex think about it for months and that ex in the end preferred to go back to his girlfriend. I think he's also looking for someone who wants to be seen with him, and this came after a scene where it was a struggle for Jian to have his picture taken with him.
I don't know how they are going to end this next week. We still have a head boy election, a declaration of true feelings, a first kiss (let's hope!), and Ye Guang discovering what he really wants to get through. Plus at least 3 musical interludes. I'm having a tough time thinking all his issues with his mom and dad are going to get resolved.
What's interesting about the series thus far for me is the perspective this series has on shipping. Its at once giving a lot of the hard-core BL shippers exactly what they've always fantasized about: that the couples are real. They are indeed having sex and dating - just saying things like "he's my brother" to throw us off, but when you go deep behind the scenes, they are truly real and worth investing emotional time on. At the same time, all of the real couples are, TBH quite lousy. Like if we were allowed to go deep behind the scenes to watch these "real couples", and really knew the actors in the ships, we wouldn't like what we found.
Fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine applies to this new couple. Even if Gus eventually truly falls for Bew, I can't be happy for the couple. I can't see how trust could ever be restored once Bew finds out the truth.
Episode 1 was fine. It would have been helpful if Sherbert's one night stand didn't look so much like Fah so I wouldn't have been confused thinking it was a flash forward. I guess Sher has a type.
I agree with the comments below. From certain angles Sher could pass for Prem. Prince also looks a lot like Phu from Brothers, to the point where I was excited to see him again. Lost the baby fat and grew slim. LOL. Nope. Same ears, different actor.
The cast is good looking, although I call dibbs on Tle. I think he has the best body and hope to see more of it to be proven right.
I hope they keep it light. Everyone is dating the wrong person at the moment and this could be a slightly raunchy sex comedy/rom-com. Tle and Fah's relationship is a mess, but nothing that a little break up would solve. No need to go high drama.
Watching this one mainly for JC, who I thought was very good as Henry in Hookup. And Kaleb has been around. But sheesh. If they had dropped the gender swap and just made this a story about a gay teen and a transman in love with the men who are dating their sisters, it would have been a better starting point. Although casting JC as a transman would have been problematic.
Its like they're trying to make a BL Gender Swap without having bothered to read the comments of BL fans as to why they don't like gender swaps, though.
Also it would have been better make Robin a bit less straight and a bit less pathetic, because Charlie seems like a complete dunce pining after a suicidal drunkard because "he smells nice." I'm sure when Tuti isn't chopping onions he smells just fine. Just go kiss him and get it over with. Let the sister you hate date the guy who can't get over his ex.
Episode 9: O.K. I'm failing to understand Thai dating culture in this series. I thought they were dating in ep 7, but they weren't. And again in ep 8. And they weren't. Now its ep 9 and are they a couple or not?
The birthday party scene reminds me that they should play up a bit more about how this universe is different more often. Like instead of a character wearing a "New York" T-Shirt like someone did this episode, they should replace it with, IDK, "Oconomowoc, WI" like that's the place in the States you'd go on an international holiday. Those candles were way too long for that tradition. You'd go blind. LOL.
Wow, that fight was intense and I'm really pissed at Talay's behavior. He's wanted Puen to open up about his past and when he tries to, instead Talay uses what he knows to escalate what could have been a good talk into an emotional knife fight. He just all around sucks in the ways he drives Puen away. Sorry, but Puen does not owe Talay an apology for having doubts about returning home. On the other hand, I'm thinking "Yeah, they aren't dating, but they're already having "But honey, we already settled this" fights like they've been together 7 years.
I wonder if Fuse/Aou is supposed to be a side couple in a spin off. It seems kind of late in the story to add them. Boom must have drawn the short straw when they went around looking for actors to remove their shirts because we haven't had much flesh shown since the mains had a bath scene in ep 3.
Is the purpose of the time because they are going to jump ahead in years?
That may be the case. What we're never going to get from LoS is a sequel with them meeting ever again. The director said that LoS was a very personal film for him and that in real life, they never met up and rekindled what they started. This may follow the path of the movie where Cake gets sent abroad to stop them from going further (a la My Bromance) but has them reconcile for closure.
I think he's a grifter. Ep 6 preview looked like he takes another boy to go get ice cream. I think he plays people…
Sand has been very upfront about being poor, though. One of the reasons Seeiw is doing that is that he's being helpful. I'm not sure why Sand doesn't want the free meal at Seeiw's house, though.
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In is a character who is carrying the weight of representing "the olds" in a series about intergenerational dialog, though. So I wanted to say that even in Thailand there would have opportunities for a wealthy academic to construct a life more positive than living in a dark prison secluded from the world in constant mourning for the only man he'd ever loved. That's just as inaccurate presentation of the past lives of gay Asian men as having a story where In and Siam got married and Thailand put their faces on a postage stamp in celebration because they were so happy for them. The lonely middle aged gay man cut off from the joys of modern social change is a bit of a stereotype, btw. One that allows society to congratulate itself too quickly on its progress.
Anyway, this series isn't over yet, so I don't know how it will end. I think they've been quite nuanced in this issue. But as it stands right now, I'm probably going to end up taking Sasi's side next week, but for different reasons. I think were I Wang's dad, I'd probably work to nip this relationship in the bud because I wouldn't want my son to join In in prison. "Still in prison, but someone there with him" is not a happy ending for me. In taking steps to get out of prison is o.k., but drawing someone else in there, not o.k. (Plus, I'd be a bit pissed about my son choosing to be a philosophy major. At least do a social science, kid. Cultural Studies is fine. Religion. Cool. But philosophy? NO.)
1) I'm on the side that they did not "make love" that night, nor would they have even if mom didn't interrupt the mood with her call. The director hasn't had a problem focusing his lens on Nike's hunky chest and Pond's sensual twinkiness, so if they didn't appear to have sex, they didn't have sex. We'll know. That and its really not that great to have sex with someone who is about to cry, let alone actually crying. And I think in In's state, tears were more likely.
2) I did feel a bit sorry for Sasi as even her crew ditched her, but then I remember that Sasi's parties include psychologically torturous confession games and I'd tend to want to stay away from that with co-workers. No, I won't work better as part of the team if I find out in a round of "Never have I ever" that you once had a threesome in the bathroom at the Central Food Court and your parents never loved you.
3) Her speech, though, I'd like to have seen covered in livestream comments. "My fans, with their sad little lives, look up to me" is hardly something that would keep me as a fan, even if its true.
4) I'm actually glad that I'm watching this only 1 hour each week rather than waiting to binge. As much as I like it, I would probably zone out of the dialogue at the 3 hour point of the binge. They need to get outside and do something soon.
5) I guess my question is what has In then been doing in the meantime. He left his girl. He moved away. Did he really just devote himself to work and being a professor all that time and never tried to even start a relationship again? Even have a fling with fellow grad student? I'm skeptical. That's more pathetic than tragic.
Well, most episode 11 break ups in Thai BLs are because of some minor misunderstanding that normal people would talk through in 30 seconds. In this case, breakup caused by a misunderstanding about how the portkey rules work leading to an existential crisis. Can't say that's minor since it involves expanding one's knowledge of the laws of the universe to fix.
Unfortunately, there's no cause to rally around until Ye Guang comes up with something he wants. And due to his upbringing, he doesn't want anything except to be able to relax a little bit and a chance to find a hobby he can be passionate for. (And Qi Zhang, too. Qi Zhang is like a hobby.) If he didn't have Qi Zhang, though, his story wouldn't be remarkable.
Yeah, Ray Ray was a little bit much this episode, but I think he's responding to his past. I don't think with others it works out well when they say "I have to think about it." That doesn't go well for him. He let his ex think about it for months and that ex in the end preferred to go back to his girlfriend. I think he's also looking for someone who wants to be seen with him, and this came after a scene where it was a struggle for Jian to have his picture taken with him.
I don't know how they are going to end this next week. We still have a head boy election, a declaration of true feelings, a first kiss (let's hope!), and Ye Guang discovering what he really wants to get through. Plus at least 3 musical interludes. I'm having a tough time thinking all his issues with his mom and dad are going to get resolved.
I agree with the comments below. From certain angles Sher could pass for Prem. Prince also looks a lot like Phu from Brothers, to the point where I was excited to see him again. Lost the baby fat and grew slim. LOL. Nope. Same ears, different actor.
The cast is good looking, although I call dibbs on Tle. I think he has the best body and hope to see more of it to be proven right.
I hope they keep it light. Everyone is dating the wrong person at the moment and this could be a slightly raunchy sex comedy/rom-com. Tle and Fah's relationship is a mess, but nothing that a little break up would solve. No need to go high drama.
Its like they're trying to make a BL Gender Swap without having bothered to read the comments of BL fans as to why they don't like gender swaps, though.
Also it would have been better make Robin a bit less straight and a bit less pathetic, because Charlie seems like a complete dunce pining after a suicidal drunkard because "he smells nice." I'm sure when Tuti isn't chopping onions he smells just fine. Just go kiss him and get it over with. Let the sister you hate date the guy who can't get over his ex.
O.K. I'm failing to understand Thai dating culture in this series. I thought they were dating in ep 7, but they weren't. And again in ep 8. And they weren't. Now its ep 9 and are they a couple or not?
The birthday party scene reminds me that they should play up a bit more about how this universe is different more often. Like instead of a character wearing a "New York" T-Shirt like someone did this episode, they should replace it with, IDK, "Oconomowoc, WI" like that's the place in the States you'd go on an international holiday. Those candles were way too long for that tradition. You'd go blind. LOL.
Wow, that fight was intense and I'm really pissed at Talay's behavior. He's wanted Puen to open up about his past and when he tries to, instead Talay uses what he knows to escalate what could have been a good talk into an emotional knife fight. He just all around sucks in the ways he drives Puen away. Sorry, but Puen does not owe Talay an apology for having doubts about returning home. On the other hand, I'm thinking "Yeah, they aren't dating, but they're already having "But honey, we already settled this" fights like they've been together 7 years.
I wonder if Fuse/Aou is supposed to be a side couple in a spin off. It seems kind of late in the story to add them. Boom must have drawn the short straw when they went around looking for actors to remove their shirts because we haven't had much flesh shown since the mains had a bath scene in ep 3.