Renata MJ

No, that's how they translated it, but he said he is not dating her at the moment, they way he expressed it was vague, with the understanding they are not conected. Which was true, becaus ethey were not together whenthe picture was posted.
And the pictures they posted in shorts, was after millitary when they were dating. The dates said by the family were wrong.

He did not say anything to the press, only after it wa prooven. He kept everything for the case.

But they did, in the court of law. From what I understood multiple people were calld as witnesses and they testified.
If you are curious why they did not show their face in the begining, because these was aired to the media as a scandal, and no official Korean news autlet went close to the story, only scandal outlets.
The press was only talking about Garosero's news, puting him on a pedestal, and no one was writing about the other side.
This news was presented initially one sided.
Thing toned down when the official reporter that broke the Burnning Sun case, came out and called Garosero out for lies and opened a case against him. The guvernmed had to step up and wanr the news outlets to be objective and not post news as fact without verifying the info. That's why they stopped, because thye were doing illegal things, feeding the masses unprooven info.
Any decent person would not use the media in such a case, they would go to the police or in the courtoflaw. And KSH fallowed the right proceture.
He was more respectful twords KSR's death then her family.
And he was respectful of other people, by not dragging their name in the scandal.
If you would have stood up for him, as someone with letters, you would have been crucified for helping a PDF, you know ritgt.
Because I say I actually don't believe he did it, genuanlt don't think he did it, and people told me I should die and stuff like that becaus eI support a PDF.
I am not a fan, I actually think this scandal is based on lies from my judgement and how the events unfolded, and people still think I am a fan and that I don't care that is is a PDF, but that I support him.
So, no matter what I say, they still think what they want.

But from my judgement, and understanding that some Korean stuff was lost in traslations, I think the things that the famly said happened, never did.

He never lied.
If you know Korean the first time he denied the relationship, you would know it was a response formulated with layers.
From the way they answered, it cam out that he was denying dating at the time when the picture was posted (that is how he formulated). Not that he never ever dated her.
This was a smart move because, he is a celebrity and any type of dating rumours going on about dating creat an attack on the people involved.
See Jimin's situation recently. People are going crazy.
It makes sense for celebrities to deny dating, if the fan s would not be insane every celebrity would date openly, but in Korea dating as a celebrity is a crime because some fans are retarded.

That was the only lie, or more like omision of trut, by formulating everything in a smart way. Which again makes sense because he is a public figure and when making official statements, just like any other star, they will be helped by lawyers.

"When the letters plus the the photos where he is seen getting IV drips while in military, got
exposed, he
didn't mentioned that alleged girlfriend he sent mails to when it is an important element to clear his name on the spot"

It's obvious he would not mention the girlfriend, because it would be the same situation; he is trying to keep his personal life personal, and not to mention dating anyone. He, just like any other celebrity, doesn't want to talk about relationships and the people he dates.

As for the journal, he took it in as proof to be verified, and as mentioned, there were witnesses and other people corroborating everything. Which meant the ex could have gone there as a witness. Because there were witnesses there, it's just that they will not expose her identity.
Also, we don't know how many letters and people went there to show their letters; we just know a bit, what they decided to share with the public. After a third party verified the proof.
That's the difference; they post things after an official corroboration and test, when they can present things that were proven as facts. They kept the information minimal before because he kept everything for the court, which is the right way to do. Let the authorities speak the truth.
The family acted cheaply and tried out fake things and brought 0 proof.

You said KSH said excuses and lies, but he is actually showing proof verified by a third party and showing his innocence, while the family, until now only said lies and can't back anything up in front of a third party.

I see no lies from him; I see lies from the family, and they truly are manipulators.

No, he did not say his parents were present, he said her parent were present. He went to her apartment, and her parents were there. Look up what he said again.
Also, from what I remember, KSH wanted to talk with the parent and resolve the issue, but they insisted on making it a scandal, for money.

This is what I think happened. There was some misunderstanding with the money KSR owed; somehow, she was left in the dark about the second letter she received from the company lawyers. But her new CEO came out with her own mouth and said that KSH's company told her about the second letter before the company even sent it out.
From the family perspective, KSR was never aware of it, even if her CEO knew about it. (The CEO never told her about it, apparently).
From this, the family discovered that she was down and sad about the payment, and she took her life.
KSH said KSR did know about it, they intentionally spoke with her CEO to make sure KSR's knows. And I will say again, the new CEO said she did speak with KSH's company, and she knew about the second letter.
So, my conclusion is that there was a misunderstanding somewhere, but it was not how it was presented. Maybe the family was pushing her to ask KSH to cancel the debt, or postpone...
The letter she wrote to him was not proven; he said it was fake, because from what he knew, she had to have known she was not under pressure to pay.
The family said her cousin was with her to deliver the letter, but this cousin we know nothing about; common friends of KSR said that there were no issues with KSH, and no one pointed their fingers at him.
Ket these "sunty" "cousin" they never show their face... we also know that the messages she sent from her "cousin's" phone are fake as well... The court said the messages were not true, were manipulated.

The family did not go to the police to say they felt KSH was at fault for her death. They spread rumours about an emotional involvement that made her sad... So their "sory's trigger" changed, and when people thought about PDF and went crazy on their own, the Garosero started fabricating stuff. I am sure you remember that at first they did not show "evidence", they said they would show evidence if KSH did not come out to recognise the relationship. But they framed it in such a way to make him look as if he recognised something, which would have meant the relationship was 6 years. While he came out and said he dated her at 19, and that was it. People put the 6-year-old on him.

All of a sudden, this turned into a case that was not even illegal there and could not even be pursued, instead of them focusing on the death and going to the police. So clearly, they were not concerned about her death; they were concerned with bringing him down, because they thought that would cancel their debt to the company. Because in Korea, the Debt is on the family, not only on the individual, so even if KSR died, the family would have been forced to pay the money back. And that was what they were afraid of and why they wanted to make money and bring him down.

The army letter was never denied, but was not romantic.
The photos were from 2019 and 2020, and 2021, as proven by the phone series and now in the court of law.
The texts were out of context, made out of montages, with changed dates... I said this before when they showed them as proof the first time, I can make exactly the same thing in paint...
Also, they never "submitted the evidence" for testing; they did not even bring it into court as evidence. Why do you think that is?
You are expecting him to bring evidence and proof to the public (tested), but you don't demand the same thing from the other side... third-party test. They never showed any, even when they said with their own mouth they would, they never did.
And now it is court, everything they showed was disproven.

He did not show anything to the people but she sure could have shown them to the judge.
From my understanding, while they are in court and a third party is investigation, it's how get our info now.
So what ever comes out now if verifyed but they don't have to present us every little detail.

You are correct, he did send pics as well.
I answered to the other comment :)
But I will add this.
Adults can have relationships with children (non romantic ones). Depending on the culture or country or situation.
Normaly KSH said that they had a mentor-student relationship, but I think it was more like an interesting friendship.
I can talk from experience, in my family somehow I ended up being the only one my age and any cousins are 5/6 years older than be and 8 or 12 years younger than me, so I got used to spending time with people of diffrent ages and with quite big age gaps, and I was like this all my life.
Imagine me being 13 and spending time with 18/19 year olds, and sometimes spending time with my youger cousins.
Right now I have a friend that is litterally 80 years old, she is a writer, she was my mother's proffesor, and I get along with her amazingly :)
When I was 10 I used to spend time with my drawing teacher, he took pictures of me and sent a lot of time mentoring me, my family knew him well. He died 5 years ago because he was old as well.
I also have a friend that is 45 years old, she helped me through hard times.
And I have friends that are 17,18 and 21 year old. We go out, we travel, we talk about music and right now we are excited by the Tiny Tan BTS MC collection.
People of diffrent ages can have things in commune, they can enjoy books, art, music and so on and have respect for eachother and care.
It does not have to be all based on something dirty it can be just a genuine connection from human to human.
It's true it can be rare, or a cultural thing, or a life style... because in KSR's case she was mostly surrounded by adults, she could have been treated as famly by many, or sister, or a friend...
People are geting attached to animals, that they can't even comunicate/speack with as with humans, but we show that we are capable of caring unconditionaly for things.
So, since ther si no proof that their interaction was sexual, it should not be taken as such. Yes, there are bad people out there, but not everyone is bad, even if is rare, but still, I know from my own experince that it's posible.
KSR died young, she suffered a lot... it is a tragedy, is was talented and she could have inspired many people. But unfortunatly I think her family life was hard as well.

Not true. He could not have saved her... KSR tried to take her life noumerus times... this situation was not a KSH thing in the first place.
How can you blame the action of a person on someone else?
KSR had a hard time, her family was never there, she had to be there for her family and be the bread winner, she lived alone most of the time, she was basicly emancipated. She also had to study and she was bullied. THat is how she grew up, not tell me do you think a life like that would not take a tall on her? Do you think she was ok? Clearly not. Which is why the adults she worked with always helped her as much as they could.
Everyone that spoke up for KSY showed their face, no one did for KSR why do you think that is? It's because from the start they knew they were saying lies, so they did not dare stand up.
Their position was litteraly "KSH killed KSR",not that he was a PDF. They said with Garosero's mouth, that because of finacial pressurs from KSH she took her life. That acusation is very serious, we are thalking about murder here... So with this you don't dare show your face and represent KSR???!!! You don't dare to stand for your words and face the world for the truth? It's because it's not the truth.
They accepted the fake AI from a stranger... do you think they did not know it's fake? They did but they did not care because everything untill then was fake as well...
So they used the AI, and then they dared to invent that KSH was somehow involved in another murder atempt and the FBI was investigating??!!! And people believed...
How can anyone out there be proven infinite times that these people lie in insane ways and still say they are the victimes and they are saying the truth?!!!
KSH never had a romantic relationship with her whe she was under age, he is not a PDF and he is not a murderer.

Yes, you write to people you care about, but it does not have to be romantic. I talk and write letters (emails/correspondence) with people I met on the internet from all over the world, we go back and forth for years now, and I find myself talking about good stuff and bad stuff.
Like I found myself talking about goat cheese once :)))
And I do say I miss them, we exchange photos (I saw their friends, family, saw when they went to weddings and vacations), I got presents through for my birthday.
I show affection in my letters, even if it's not romantic (it does not have to be romantic).
Now imagine that in 2 years, you are cut off from the world and loved ones, you constantly have to push your body and train, you feel drained, and your only way of connecting with people you know care is through these letters, you would be more emotional, sensitive, and vulnerable. These letters would be your way of feeling connected and understood. He wrote letters 100% to many people, because literally every person does, now that they have phone privileges, they send messages even more, they can even post things for fans.

People saw this letter that the family attached a narrative to, and they just went with it, but the words of the family are not true.
Remember, they never created a case or accused him of being a PDF, the public did.
If everything had been true, they would have approached the case differently.
The way people treated this news was scary; everything that was said by the family was believed (even if there was no proof, only hearsay and fake proof), and everything said by KSH was immediately looked at as lies. IT was literally their word against his, but people already acted as if they knew which was true.

Garosero was one of the shadiest guys out there. Even before this case, I kept looking at his content, and he said lies about many celebrities. He was one who dragged BTS and Suge... So clearly, he was not someone objective and truthful.
He also had two other associates and friends that he worked with; they both were caught doing shady things and ended up taking their lives, after working with them and being their "friend", Garosero talked badly about them...
Tell me what kind of friendship you think they had, if they even became business associates for years, and 2 of them were shady?
Do you think Garosero did not know? Do you think Garosero is any different? Do you think a man who was known for lying is all of a sudden the face of truth?
You tell me, do you think this man is a man of character, of values and a man who cares for KSR and truth? And do you think that her family and that "aunt" would search for the truth through him?

Before this scandal, KSR's family was complicated, and her life was complicated. There was a reason why many adult actors took care of her, even Won Bin was close to her, no one thinks he is shady... why because the family never invented anything about him...

Before it was known around Korea that after KSR's father left the family, the mother struggled even more with her depression, and it was reported that she tried to jump off a balcony with her kids, but she was stopped. KSR was basically working her ass off, and her family was not there for her; she was taking care of the family. Other actors were taking care of her, and she lived alone; she was basically emancipated.
But she had a hard life, working, taking care of the family, studies, bullies (because of envy), that was all her life... and she took her life (tried multiple times by the way, but was saved).

The idea is that in court, the proof they brought was proven fake, while the proof he brought was proven real.
Kim Sae Ron never accused him, and everything that was shown was never shown by her...
Full of holes and lies.

And let me tell you I am not even a fan ok KSH, I saw 2 projects with him, "IT's ok not to be ok" and another one even forgot the name... But I just heard the story, and I did not believe how people went crazy without proof.
I am into Yu Meilong's case now, and I am afraid that it will never be resolved because that is happening in a dictatorship... so people can't move a finger without orders, if they want to live.

He will, he is still in the top supported actors. Truth always wins!

Shut up alredy, there are multiple cultures and countries and things are diffrent around the world.
Not everyone is a ped because he wrote letter to people when they were in the military.
And not all coutries are sa sick as yours, to have pdf everywhere, that people thing everyone is a pdf.
It was already prooven in a court of law that the "evidence" shows by the famly and garosero was fake and out of context. It is also a fact that the mobs on the internet keep acusing him based on nothing, 0 evidence.
I don't see the west pointing fingers at Leonardo (50 something years old) dating 19 year olds, but they jump on fake news.
Would you dare say the same thing of a minority that married kids off at 12 years old...?
You clearly know nothing about the world and other cultures... You would be one of those people going crazy seeing Japanese 5/6/7 year old kids going through the city alone and beinf responsable and doing choirs (you would call the police), because motst likely the kids around you would not be capable of doing so, and would not be safe doing so. Clearly not all countries all full of that many pdf's...
THe law in Korea was old, they upgraded it. Even if the law in 2015 had the age of consent at 13, it does not mean that KSH did something!! The parent invented the story and people keep spreading the lies.
If it would have been tru tey would have went to the police asking them to investigate her death... they could have gotten a case simmilat to the "parasite " actor, in which the woman extorting him, was found guilty of pushing him to his death. But they did not go to the police, they were most likly fooled by "the aunt" and Garosero in creating lies, for monetary gain.

No, it's finally doing right, by presenting the truth and not fake and defamatory news.
The Truth will always win, God has His ways.

Let's not forget that the other 2 asociates of garosero, both died in a sad way and they both were involved in shady things. Birds of a feather flock together... it's no strach to say that Garosero faked "evidence" in order to get more attention, because he alredy had momentum from the "parasite" actor's case, he wanted more and more.

He is the one suing... not the other way around. This is a defamation case, he has nothing to be guilty about.

She is inocent, she had nothing to do with this. HEr family even monetized her death, that's how bad this is. I am not shocked that she lived separatly from her family as much as posible...

You mean you find it incredible that he had a diary, but the fake thing KSR's family shows those are facts :)) ?!!
How disgusting can you get?!! The funny part is the court alredy disprooved all their fake evidence so justice will be served and Garosero and KSR;s family will pay for their slanderous lies. And they diserve it for what they did to KSR and how they monetized her death.

Yes he was writing multiple letter to multiple people... how about that?
Also is it a crime to write a letter?!
Clearly the problem here are the people that can's stop their depraved thoughts... must be sad living in a world where you think everyone is just as problematic as you.

Clearly you are not an objective person so stop pointing fingers at other. :)) You are in a glass house...
Also you know that he is suing them not the other way around, you dummy dum dum, he has nothing to get out off. :))

He does not owe anyone an explanation about his private life. And to say that this is his fault is absurd :))
"It's your fault that people invent stuff about you and try to ruin you for money, even using the death of someone, dragging them through lies...
Makes perfect sense!!

Bull shit :)) Litteraly this has nothing to do with Sulli and even her brother called out Garosero... the idea that people keep inventing stuff is just hilarious.

The court setteled it... litteraly an official investigation. He needs no saving he did nothing wrong