Its Liane

I wonder if Jun Cheol stayed with Babylon is feeding Jin Man info from the inside. Especially since he called Jin Man to warn him Bale was alive and heading to the funeral home. And I noticed on the Asianwiki page you posted he is listed as being part of Babylon.

Thanks!

I thought the same thing. But when Jin Man got the call from Juncheol that his brother and sil were in danger, he then immediately texted Honda. So we know Honda is dead. But do we know what has happened to Juncheol? Have I missed anything? And I wonder why he isn’t in the cast list.

Who is Juncheol? He called Jin Man to tell him Bale was heading to the funeral home, and I think he name was mentioned in episode 6 after the fighting is over at the beginning when they are buy the vehicles. But I don’t see him shown in the cast list.

You don’t know how infuriating it is to rewatch this with my husband knowing that little shit Jung Min is a bad guy! I just want curse him out!

True, clearly this has all been planned by Jin Man, and he wouldn’t have wanted it revealed in the beginning I guess that Jung Min had been there the day he “died”. It would have immediately made him a suspect. Especially because he was there when Jin Man committed suicide. Still, I don’t know why he let Jung Min get so close in the first place, especially when he would be getting close to Ji An and potentially hurt her. But I guess he needed to give Babylon a false sense of security that he was playing into their hands so he could lead them into his trap, and he was trusting that Ji An would be able to handle it, and that the precautions he had in place would help. But damn, he’s put in a lot of faith in a lot of things lol. But it’s movies, so sometimes we have to suspend disbelief a bit. I’m still enjoying it.

You’re right about the face mask. But also, someone mentioned to me about the medicine he took when he and Ji An went into the mountains and he got “sick” and then he made that call to someone and said that it was some good stuff. So could he have taken something?

And as for the police being involved. Someone has to be. That police man friend at the beginning is suspect for sure. He seemed really connected to Jin Man. And really stood up for him, and even knew about Jin Man saving him and the other high school friends when they were younger. He also brought Ji An to a particular funeral home/crematory place which I thought was strange. Oh, and he happened to be the one to pick her up when this happened.

I don’t know why my brain never put together that the chip coincided with the color. Min Hye scans Jung Min and Ji An, Ji An is a color green. So if that’s are what the chips are for, then Ji An has to have one. When did she get it though???? She probably had some surgery when she was younger and it was inserted then, but how do you do that with her not even noticing it after?

As for your other theories. I guess maybe Babylon is going out on their own and no long wants to follow the “system” set up by the higher ups. I mean the shop can’t just serve Babylon. So there are other organizations out there. Ever see the John Wick movies? Maybe it’s like that. Like a large criminal organization made up of several groups, and Babylon has decided to break away from the larger organization. And removing the chip is his way of saying he is no longer a part of the “system”. Babylon is going rogue. They no longer have any respect for the system in place, or the colors they represent.

Sometimes we gotta just talk this stuff out to figure it out! lol

I guess it was just never very clear that Babylon was going rogue, nor very clear how big this world is outside of just Babylon. The appeared leader of Babylon, not Bern, but the older man, he did hint at higher ups I believe when he talked to Jin Man, but I don’t know if he was referencing higher ups at Babylon or people higher then Babylon. During my rewatch I need to pay better attention to that conversation.

This also leads me back to one of my other questions. How did Jin Man get set up in this lucrative business if he left Babylon. If this world is much bigger then Babylon (I know there is another drama connected to this, so maybe it is, but I was told it wasn’t necessary to watch) perhaps Jin Man had contacts with people within this criminal system that allowed him to set up this shop. So within this system he set it up legitimately as a shop to serve the criminals within this system.

And I’ll jump back on on the John Wick movies once more, in the very beginning, you learn this large criminal organization made up of multiple groups that has services such as medical, hotels, tailors, shops for weapons. I think this is very similar in theory.

I think a couple of above posters solved it. Someone pointed out that there was something red in Ji Bin’s pocket, she thought it might be like a chip his body, but I agree with another poster it looks like the pen he used earlier to record and as a usb. Now I don’t know what’s the significance. I mean we know that about the pen, and he pulls out the usb pretty soon to show her the entire video when the 0404 device is corrupted. But maybe Ji A realizes she can use the glasses for other things later. But clearly the glasses reveal things.

I agree now that I went back and watched it. Now I see it. So that’s why they focused on the glasses.

I just went back and saw it! But so agree with a poster below, it is revealing the pen he is using to record information. The same pen he used earlier.

So in episode 2, in what would maybe be called an extra scene/post credit scene, of the assassins of group 1, the leader cuts out a tracking chip out of his arm. At the time I thought they were all breaking away from the group they were apart of, that’s the way the man who cut the chip out made it sound. But as of now, aren’t all of the bad guys still a part of Babylon? Did I miss something? Or is there maybe something that hasn’t been revealed yet?

And who is really in charge of Babylon? The older man is not, he referenced higher ups if I remember correctly.

I have so many questions. This is my third one. Question in the comments.

Jin Man took a picture of Ji An’s ID because he knew he needed her ID number then to reprogram his code at that point.

The police officer, at the coroner office, said no one had been seen on her uncles cameras in a week, we know Jung Min was there the day Jin Man committed “suicide”.

Any thoughts?

Doing a rewatch with my husband and have some thoughts in the comments as a spoiler.

Okay, at first I thought that was crazy, but then I sat here a minute and thought it over. Because it WAS weird the 0404 video cut off. I keep seeing and realizing the weird things, but they are so short and seem so simple that I forgot them so easily (props to the writers). But you’re right, there has to be something to the video cutting off like that. And then the focus on the glasses….. I don’t know if you’re right, but you’re definitely on to something.

Okay, at first I thought that was crazy, but then I sat here a minute and thought it over. Because it WAS weird the 0404 video cut off. I keep seeing and realizing the weird things, but they are so short and seem so simple that I forgot them so easily (props to the writers). But you’re right, there has to be something to the video cutting off like that. And then the focus on the glasses….. I don’t know if you’re right, but you’re definitely on to something.

I know. I mean as assassins go, Honda seemed really sweet. 😢

Yea, and I could see after being a victim she would want to learn to protect herself. But clearly she made a name for self, because all the bad guys knew her, so she’s been busy since Jin Man found her.

Got it! Had to post and ask. But do you know I was looking and actually stopped like ten seconds before they showed it? I was so close. It’s episode 5 47:18

Oh my gosh do you know I was just looking for it earlier and I stopped looking like ten seconds before it was shown. I’m an idiot.