it's a tough decision to drop a drama but in my opinion it's totally fine not to finish this one, this is the…
The office politics - if I remember correctly the support that was being given by the director in the beginning took a complete turn and he instead started becoming more focused on protecting the company's image. The men banded together to convince the other females in the company to put all the blame for the sexual harassment situations on the FL, which they did. I know one of the men - the most handsy one - finally broke down and took some fault (the FL got him to consider how he'd feel if she were his own daughter go through what she was) but there was no major WIN per se. The men started being more cautious about how they treated the females in the workplace but the FL got shipped off too somewhere remote to basically make the whole thing go away.
This series also introduced me to Jung Hae In and I've been a die-hard fan of his since. He's adorable and THE MAN CAN ACT HIS ASS OFF! Like seriously! You'll love him in One Spring Night.
If you watched more of SITR it would become upsetting to see how the FL started treating him. I loved them as a couple at first too so it hurt so much more each time she completely let him down. A lot of my crying was WITH him. I felt so much hurt for him because his pain was so deep as his love for her was also so deep. As blatantly obnoxious as her mother was towards him, it was the way she handled the situations that hurt him more.
I'm glad we could both openly discuss our differences of opinion too without judgment. I was worried at first that I'd offend you but still wanted to give it a shot to share my thoughts. It doesn't always work well. At times, no matter how understanding I am of a person's views they only see that I disagree and immediately start attacking and getting ugly. LOL! I remember one time I was actually defending someone who was being attached on here and they clearly didn't bother reading what I'd actually said but immediately sent hateful messages and then blocked me! I was so baffled!
I don't have to agree with a persons viewpoint to understand and respect it. I genuinely wish that's how everyone would be on here but it's definitely not always the case. I've met some truly awesome people like yourself though - young and old - who've even help me broaden my outlook as you've taken the time to express yourself and your views. I LOVE it when it happens. I hate when people leave a comment about a drama with no explanation. As long as they've got some basis for their viewpoint I'm all good because it's often when they explain why the liked and/or disliked and why, that I'm able to gauge whether or not I want to watch something myself. Even though they may have disliked something, the reason they give for disliking it may be one that doesn't bother me at all. No need in getting angry at them for having a different opinion.
I agree with you.. how did this drama got a 8.4??? It was a waste of time!!!! i advise everyone not to watch Netflix…
OMG if only they would! It's so frustrating when a Netflix drama lets us down because they've got the resources to give us some really great work. I've found that it's not just their Asian drama selections they suck with though. I've tried watching several of their other foreign language dramas and movies this past year and, again, it's very hit or miss.
Man! How do I wish they would replace their drama selection staff. That would be a dream job for me too, but I'd also fully support giving a fellow drama-lover like yourself a chance to do it for all of us as well. I just want more good dramas to watch!
I really wish they'd cut out that entire aspect of the show - I'm referring again to the situation with the ML's…
I figured out later on that the writer must lack life experience. Also writing experience. Both showed in many ways later on throughout the drama. In this particular situation, they don't seem to understand the true effects and repercussions of abandonment. I saw later on that the way the mother handled the entire situation from beginning to end was also a major part of the problem too.
The writer seems to choose to write about things they don't really understand very well. It's more like...someone telling a story and wanting to add a back story and uses something they may have seen or come across in a novel or watching another series that they think would fit the story but they don't truly have any knowledge about it so they do a poor job of incorporating it effectively. Even the romance seemed to be written by someone very young and very lacking in any romantic experience.
The lack of writing experience shows in how choppy the drama is. It's like they don't understand the process of building up to major plot points or understand how to make the story flow. It made me thing of the series, W. When the FL realized she was in the comic strip and time flowed based only on what was relevant to the ML character of the comic. One minute we're watching events over a period of days. Then we're 2 months out and shown something completely irrelevant then we jump to 3 weeks later for something else entirely then we're suddenly a year out. It wasn't even like there was a reason for the changes in pace in terms of maintaining the flow of the story.
Anyway, the writer does have some talent for writing but they need more of both life and writing experience to really excel. I think they could end up putting out some great works in the future if they're developed well.
Okay I'm on the final episode and I think I get it now. This has to have been written by someone very talented, but also very young and inexperienced. A lack of life experience explains away ALL of my issues with the writing.
Kudos to the ML's acting in his kiss scenes. I'm at the kitchen scene in episode 23 and WOW! That's was HOT!
His character was one of the best written of the drama and he pulled it off well.
What I liked the most was that he portrayed a level of masculinity and maturity I don't tend to see from many kpop stars. Like, the man clearly has dating experience in real life and doesn't pretend to be one of those pure, innocent types of idols. I have a huge amount of respect for that.
The romance in this drama definitely isn't written for more mature viewers. The scenarios and ways things are…
It's still a cute and sweet drama. I have 3 key complaints but everything else is all good, especially the comedy:
1) I had a lot of issues with the logic in the writing throughout. The ML's father's return was a big one. That could have been written a lot better (they should have just made it so he'd been working overseas all along and the family needed to readjust to his return; the story would have been more acceptable for viewers to accept). The SFL's breakup with her boyfriend was another big one. There were also several times throughout where the writing just didn't jive with me. I didn't like how scenarios were handled.
2) The romance was very immaturely written.
3) The pacing of the drama was all over the place in terms of telling a story. There'd suddenly be a month skipped here and there then a year then we're back to daily scenarios then suddenly we're into the next year. There was no flow.
EDIT: Nope it's 4 complaints. I can't keep trying to ignore how irritating I find the SFL (the FL's best friend) to be. I've tried VERY hard throughout to like her and just go with it but she really gets on my nerves. All the time they're spending on her and her relationship in the final episodes is bothersome.
The romance in this drama definitely isn't written for more mature viewers. The scenarios and ways things are handled as sooo extremely immature and childish. It's still a cute and sweet drama but the romance (in general, not just referring to the leads) can become a bit annoying to watch. It doesn't feel like it was written by an adult...or maybe not by someone with any actual romantic experience?? I can't quite put my finger on it...
Oh and I haven't had a single issue with the ML's acting so far in this entire drama (I'm on ep. 21). Just throwing that out there.
This isn't a spoiler since I'm only on ep 4 and haven't actually seen how they fully play this out yet but that…
I really wish they'd cut out that entire aspect of the show - I'm referring again to the situation with the ML's father. They should have just made it so the dad had left to work overseas and had only just relocated back home and so the family had to go through a period of readjustment and learning how to reconnect and get used to him being around again. That would have stayed within the light and mellow vibe of the drama and given the effect they were hoping for.
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UGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! The writing for this whole ML's father situation is UGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Every time the ML's mother had been sick or needed care while the dad had been MIA he's the one who'd had to care for her on his own (with the help of his godparents, of course). We know he wasn't a negligent child because early on he'd been concerned about his mom coming home late and had even gone to meet up with her to accompany her home out of concern (when he saw her get into the car in an earlier episode). I get that they want the ML to feel badly because his avoiding his father made him also neglect his mother but WTF?! They're making the dad seem like he's so great being concerned for her now but where tf was he during the 10 years when they needed him before! OMG! I feel like I'm the only person on here who's angry about this but I cannot help it. They keep making it seem like the ML is being unreasonable but that's just ridiculous.
I really wish they'd cut that entire aspect of the show out. They should have just made it so the dad had left to work overseas and had only just relocated back home and so they had to go through a period of readjustment and learning how to reconnect and get used to him being around again. That would have stayed within the light and mellow vibe of the drama and given the effect they were hoping for.
This isn't a spoiler since I'm only on ep 4 and haven't actually seen how they fully play this out yet but that…
Every time the bring up the situation with the ML's father I get angry all over again. Everyone's acting like the man should be forgiven and understood like it was nothing. Thank goodness the FL had some decency and sense.
They need to go ahead and just get it over and done with so I can move past this shit stain scenario in the otherwise great story. I want to forget about it.
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I really, really like that FL teacher. Well both her and the FL's teacher but the ML's teacher was a really great educator. You don't get to see many like her in these dramas. It's ones like that negative worthless other female one that we tend to see a lot (especially in Kdramas).
This isn't a spoiler since I'm only on ep 4 and haven't actually seen how they fully play this out yet but that situation with the ML's dad makes me sick. Literally nauseous. I'm ANGRY. Up until now the drama, for me, has been perfection. Then THIS!!!
It's not the whole leaving and returning that even bothers me really. It's the way the show is already trying to pass off his behavior as acceptable and justifiable (based on the fact that the mother has clearly already accepted him back) because he supposedly did it for the good of the family. My *&&^%^$%$^ ass! In all that time he couldn't reach out to his son once?!
I get that they want to keep the drama light and cute and sweet but the fact that the mother has already accepted his return and now is trying to get the son to do the same...I had to stop watching and walk away. I'm so upset by the way this is written so far. I'm even more upset because I know they'll make it so the ML accepts him back too (not easily - I get that - but he will). I just cannot accept that.
That man should have been turned away. It should have taken YEARS of him trying to gain their forgiveness and regain their trust before they even considered letting him eat dinner with them! If they make it so he's fully accepted and back in their lives within the next couple of episodes I'm going to be so damn upset because this really great drama would now have this ENORMOUS flaw.
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Op! EP4. They had to go and ruin all the awesomeness and throw in this BS. The father abandoning them for the good of the family?! What in ever-loving F@CK! The mother even considering taking him back sickens me but the fact that she's trying to get the ML to accept him too??? Are they being serious with this shit right now? Who the hell writes this?!
A man/parent can leave to make something of himself but if he's doing it FOR his family he doesn't completely DESERT them in the process! He was gone while they were left behind to fend for themselves! I'm so gd angry right now! Lots of asian parents leave their kids behind to go build their careers (I've learned) but they stay in touch! They don't just completely disappear from the family's lives!
Either the mother did a shit job of explaining to her child what was going on for all that time - which I don't believe for a second with the way things have been conveyed thus far - or the asshole finally grew a conscience and remembered his family. Nothing will make me believe he had his family in the forefront of his mind the entire time he was gone, especially not when he waits until he's wealthy enough to have his own fucking driver to do it!!! That shit doesn't happen overnight! In all that time he couldn't contact his child, not even once?! Birthday's? Holidays? Nothing? Yet he's supposed to just accept him back???
Up until right this second this drama has been absolute perfection for me, but then they throw in this lunacy!!! The fact that this drama wants to pass this off as acceptable in complete and utter horseshit. As a parent and mother myself (a single one at that) this scenario makes me sick.
It's not the fact that the father did what he did that bothers me really. People can be assholes and do dumb shit. It's the way the show is trying to portray it as understandable and forgivable that's got me absolutely LIVID! !
OMG I just started this and I did NOT expect it to be this funny! Seriously! Now I've got a perma-grin on my face.…
"Dun dun duhhh dun, dun dun duhhh dun" "What's that?" "The exclusive music for intense moments. The copyright it too expensive, so I hummed it for you."
it's a tough decision to drop a drama but in my opinion it's totally fine not to finish this one, this is the…
OMG! Please let me know how you like it when you do. It's so good. If I remember correctly, the actress playing the mother in that one was the same but her character was completely opposite to this one.
I agree with you.. how did this drama got a 8.4??? It was a waste of time!!!! i advise everyone not to watch Netflix…
I hate to say this but I have to agree with you about Netflix when it comes to Asian dramas in general. I don't usually agree with such broad statements but this time...I've made similar comments to my friends in the past so, yeah. After 6+ years of heavy drama watching I learned pretty quickly to look for spoilers before getting started with any Netflix dramas because when they let you down they do it thoroughly. I have no confidence going in otherwise. I definitely won't start one unless it's completely finished airing.
I don't have that kind of apprehension with viki so that says something. With Viki it's more about figuring out what I'm in the mood to watch, not being skeptical that something that sounds good will turn out to be pure trash. Netflix dramas has let me down too many times to count.
I don't know who they've got making their drama selections but I think they should pay better attention to what people actually like watching, instead choosing dramas just to get reactions out of people. It's like they don't understand asian drama audiences at all.
This series also introduced me to Jung Hae In and I've been a die-hard fan of his since. He's adorable and THE MAN CAN ACT HIS ASS OFF! Like seriously! You'll love him in One Spring Night.
If you watched more of SITR it would become upsetting to see how the FL started treating him. I loved them as a couple at first too so it hurt so much more each time she completely let him down. A lot of my crying was WITH him. I felt so much hurt for him because his pain was so deep as his love for her was also so deep. As blatantly obnoxious as her mother was towards him, it was the way she handled the situations that hurt him more.
I'm glad we could both openly discuss our differences of opinion too without judgment. I was worried at first that I'd offend you but still wanted to give it a shot to share my thoughts. It doesn't always work well. At times, no matter how understanding I am of a person's views they only see that I disagree and immediately start attacking and getting ugly. LOL! I remember one time I was actually defending someone who was being attached on here and they clearly didn't bother reading what I'd actually said but immediately sent hateful messages and then blocked me! I was so baffled!
I don't have to agree with a persons viewpoint to understand and respect it. I genuinely wish that's how everyone would be on here but it's definitely not always the case. I've met some truly awesome people like yourself though - young and old - who've even help me broaden my outlook as you've taken the time to express yourself and your views. I LOVE it when it happens. I hate when people leave a comment about a drama with no explanation. As long as they've got some basis for their viewpoint I'm all good because it's often when they explain why the liked and/or disliked and why, that I'm able to gauge whether or not I want to watch something myself. Even though they may have disliked something, the reason they give for disliking it may be one that doesn't bother me at all. No need in getting angry at them for having a different opinion.
Man! How do I wish they would replace their drama selection staff. That would be a dream job for me too, but I'd also fully support giving a fellow drama-lover like yourself a chance to do it for all of us as well. I just want more good dramas to watch!
The writer seems to choose to write about things they don't really understand very well. It's more like...someone telling a story and wanting to add a back story and uses something they may have seen or come across in a novel or watching another series that they think would fit the story but they don't truly have any knowledge about it so they do a poor job of incorporating it effectively. Even the romance seemed to be written by someone very young and very lacking in any romantic experience.
The lack of writing experience shows in how choppy the drama is. It's like they don't understand the process of building up to major plot points or understand how to make the story flow. It made me thing of the series, W. When the FL realized she was in the comic strip and time flowed based only on what was relevant to the ML character of the comic. One minute we're watching events over a period of days. Then we're 2 months out and shown something completely irrelevant then we jump to 3 weeks later for something else entirely then we're suddenly a year out. It wasn't even like there was a reason for the changes in pace in terms of maintaining the flow of the story.
Anyway, the writer does have some talent for writing but they need more of both life and writing experience to really excel. I think they could end up putting out some great works in the future if they're developed well.
His character was one of the best written of the drama and he pulled it off well.
What I liked the most was that he portrayed a level of masculinity and maturity I don't tend to see from many kpop stars. Like, the man clearly has dating experience in real life and doesn't pretend to be one of those pure, innocent types of idols. I have a huge amount of respect for that.
1) I had a lot of issues with the logic in the writing throughout. The ML's father's return was a big one. That could have been written a lot better (they should have just made it so he'd been working overseas all along and the family needed to readjust to his return; the story would have been more acceptable for viewers to accept). The SFL's breakup with her boyfriend was another big one. There were also several times throughout where the writing just didn't jive with me. I didn't like how scenarios were handled.
2) The romance was very immaturely written.
3) The pacing of the drama was all over the place in terms of telling a story. There'd suddenly be a month skipped here and there then a year then we're back to daily scenarios then suddenly we're into the next year. There was no flow.
EDIT: Nope it's 4 complaints. I can't keep trying to ignore how irritating I find the SFL (the FL's best friend) to be. I've tried VERY hard throughout to like her and just go with it but she really gets on my nerves. All the time they're spending on her and her relationship in the final episodes is bothersome.
Oh and I haven't had a single issue with the ML's acting so far in this entire drama (I'm on ep. 21). Just throwing that out there.
Every time the ML's mother had been sick or needed care while the dad had been MIA he's the one who'd had to care for her on his own (with the help of his godparents, of course). We know he wasn't a negligent child because early on he'd been concerned about his mom coming home late and had even gone to meet up with her to accompany her home out of concern (when he saw her get into the car in an earlier episode). I get that they want the ML to feel badly because his avoiding his father made him also neglect his mother but WTF?! They're making the dad seem like he's so great being concerned for her now but where tf was he during the 10 years when they needed him before! OMG! I feel like I'm the only person on here who's angry about this but I cannot help it. They keep making it seem like the ML is being unreasonable but that's just ridiculous.
I really wish they'd cut that entire aspect of the show out. They should have just made it so the dad had left to work overseas and had only just relocated back home and so they had to go through a period of readjustment and learning how to reconnect and get used to him being around again. That would have stayed within the light and mellow vibe of the drama and given the effect they were hoping for.
They need to go ahead and just get it over and done with so I can move past this shit stain scenario in the otherwise great story. I want to forget about it.
It's not the whole leaving and returning that even bothers me really. It's the way the show is already trying to pass off his behavior as acceptable and justifiable (based on the fact that the mother has clearly already accepted him back) because he supposedly did it for the good of the family. My *&&^%^$%$^ ass! In all that time he couldn't reach out to his son once?!
I get that they want to keep the drama light and cute and sweet but the fact that the mother has already accepted his return and now is trying to get the son to do the same...I had to stop watching and walk away. I'm so upset by the way this is written so far. I'm even more upset because I know they'll make it so the ML accepts him back too (not easily - I get that - but he will). I just cannot accept that.
That man should have been turned away. It should have taken YEARS of him trying to gain their forgiveness and regain their trust before they even considered letting him eat dinner with them! If they make it so he's fully accepted and back in their lives within the next couple of episodes I'm going to be so damn upset because this really great drama would now have this ENORMOUS flaw.
A man/parent can leave to make something of himself but if he's doing it FOR his family he doesn't completely DESERT them in the process! He was gone while they were left behind to fend for themselves! I'm so gd angry right now! Lots of asian parents leave their kids behind to go build their careers (I've learned) but they stay in touch! They don't just completely disappear from the family's lives!
Either the mother did a shit job of explaining to her child what was going on for all that time - which I don't believe for a second with the way things have been conveyed thus far - or the asshole finally grew a conscience and remembered his family. Nothing will make me believe he had his family in the forefront of his mind the entire time he was gone, especially not when he waits until he's wealthy enough to have his own fucking driver to do it!!! That shit doesn't happen overnight! In all that time he couldn't contact his child, not even once?! Birthday's? Holidays? Nothing? Yet he's supposed to just accept him back???
Up until right this second this drama has been absolute perfection for me, but then they throw in this lunacy!!! The fact that this drama wants to pass this off as acceptable in complete and utter horseshit. As a parent and mother myself (a single one at that) this scenario makes me sick.
It's not the fact that the father did what he did that bothers me really. People can be assholes and do dumb shit. It's the way the show is trying to portray it as understandable and forgivable that's got me absolutely LIVID! !
"What's that?"
"The exclusive music for intense moments. The copyright it too expensive, so I hummed it for you."
LMAOOOOO! I'm dead!
I'm only 15 mins into the 1st episode and I just snort-laughed! LMAO!!! This totally caught me off-guard!
I don't have that kind of apprehension with viki so that says something. With Viki it's more about figuring out what I'm in the mood to watch, not being skeptical that something that sounds good will turn out to be pure trash. Netflix dramas has let me down too many times to count.
I don't know who they've got making their drama selections but I think they should pay better attention to what people actually like watching, instead choosing dramas just to get reactions out of people. It's like they don't understand asian drama audiences at all.