For 35 episodes FL had been having her own interactions with her own ex, which the ML did not like.strange how…
I would like to add more to the bad move by YH in the finale, in that I would actually blame QS for this situation.
YH did reveal his feelings. Drunken confession aside, when YH brought up the divorce, he confirmed his feelings again. Yes, he did not say "I Love you", but what he said to her confirms that he loves her and more. In my view, his words are more powerful than simple "I love you". All QS had to was to respond to them and they would not need to go through all these misunderstandings. But she never did. Until the last scene, that is also because YH came back, did she reveal her feelings for him. QS also acknowledged to herself that she indeed loves YH, right after they got their divorce certificate, she did so in her car. YH put the ball in QS's court when he divorced her. To him, QS was only in this marriage because they are married and she would never divorce. To him, QS would never get back with her ex because she is married and would never divorce nor would she cheat on her husband. He doesn't know that it's because she loves him and wants to be with him. She never let him know that. So YH divorced her, let her sort her own feelings for her ex or for him. If she goes back to her ex, then he would silently retreat. So yes, when he got to know that she has some misunderstanding about his relationship with his ex, he was confused. Then YY gave him this bad plan, which he went through with.. bad plan/move as it may be, this is the fastest way for him to know what QS feels for him. I can understand why he went through with it. I can empathize with him. If she chases after him to the airport, then he would know that QS loves him.. the misunderstandings between them would be resolved there at the airport when QS sees the situation for herself. Alas, he didn't see her at the airport.. which means, to him, she did not care for him enough. So he would give her more space. From QS's end, she only chased after him to the airport when she got to know from her parents about what YH feels for her and why he divorced her (again, she already knows what he feels about her.. he made it clear when he asked for the divorce). So, who's to be blamed here?
For 35 episodes FL had been having her own interactions with her own ex, which the ML did not like.strange how…
Again, YH was confused about the situation when he made the bad move.
Yes, QS made it clear to YH that she would not go back to her ex. But the way she conveyed it was like, "I'm married to you, of course I wouldn't get back with him. That would be an affair. We Qins never divorce." All the talk about her assuring to YH that she would never get back her ex is actually not at all assuring. Basically she was saying to YH that if they were not married, then she can't tell for sure. Maybe she would be dating her ex again.. even marry him.
This is not about YH's jealousy anymore. It's his knowledge that he is tying QS by marriage, which is probably restricting her feelings for her ex. That was the reason he divorced her. It's the only way for QS to figure out her feelings for ex and YH.
For 35 episodes FL had been having her own interactions with her own ex, which the ML did not like.strange how…
YH did make it clear to QS before their divorce that YY was his ex and they had no feelings for each other.
After the divorce and his interactions with his ex, how would you have YH make it clear to QS that he had no romantic entanglement with his ex anymore when he wasn't even aware of QS's misunderstanding about him and his ex? It was all in QS's mind.. and he didn't know about it until the last episode? He was even confused about this situation at this point. They are already divorced at this point and are giving each other SPACE to sort out their feelings. Space means not bothering each other for a while.
With regards to YH conveying his feelings for QS, I would argue that his drunken confession holds a lot of weight. And he also confessed a few times that he likes her.. Yes, QS confirmed that they are a relationship first, but the one who made the move was definitely YH. He was the one who confessed. But confirming that they are in a relationship does not equate to QS confirming her feelings for him.
And indeed, as a viewer, there is a huge difference between QS/TJH interactions and YH/YY interactions. QS/TJH still have some lingering feelings between them (given that their break-up was not clean, it is understandable). While QS did not reciprocate them, TJH was pestering her. He wants her back while he was in a relationship with another woman.. He's even engaged!!! She herself is married!!! That is a huge red flag right there.!!! I'm not saying she should give up her job to stay away from him, but she should've found ways to stay away from him.. And she can if she wants to, but I didn't see any efforts.
So saying that their work is the reason why she is still entangled with her ex is a moot point here. That ex is still in love with her.. trying to pursue her again, while he's engaged to another woman and she's married to another man. That's not a normal "only work" relationship.
While in YH/YY interactions, there are no romantic feelings between them at all, not one bit. Just two old friends supporting each other. They are the most pure ones here, but just because QS has been overthinking about their entanglement... and YH doesn't know about QS's thoughts,..while they were divorced and not seeing each other. Yes, let's blame YH for this.
It's been a while since I watched this show and I may have some things wrong.
For 35 episodes FL had been having her own interactions with her own ex, which the ML did not like.strange how…
It's actually funny to see all these comments against YH for his one (and only) bad move, in the last episode.. people are forgetting that YH has always been on the losing end in this relationship. Never getting answer he needs to hear from QS to feel secure.
For once you see QS feeling flustered and jealous and lost, and everyone's angry about the situation? YH has been in this situation for a big part of the show, where is the outrage?
For 35 episodes FL had been having her own interactions with her own ex, which the ML did not like.strange how…
I think the most important thing here is, at this point, who made their intentions clear in their relationship. YH made it crystal clear to QS many times that he is deeply in love with her. To the point that QS was almost able to reciprocate his feelings, despite having trust issues. She just wasn't able to communicate these feelings. YH has always been the one who vocalised his romantic feelings to QS. I think she should know better whom he loves.
The last few episodes, QS is the one who was overthinking things regarding YH and his ex. YH has no idea about it until the last episode.. so it is reasonable he is confused about this situation and went along with his ex's plan.. again, he is still confused about it at this point, and probably made a bad move. But that still does not cover the fact that YH was always the one who voiced out his romantic feelings. One bad move from YH, compared to many bad moves from QS. Double standard?
QS on the other hand had always felt secure knowing he was there loving her. But still chose to work with her ex, hurting her husband's feelings in the process. It doesn't matter how much she assures YH that there is nothing there between her and her ex. The fact is that YH knows that there is some unfinished business between QS and her ex. And it also doesn't help that she never confessed her feelings to YH. YH, rightfully, should feel insecure. So he put out the divorce idea. Once they divorced, he gave her space to sort out her feelings. I think he is just protecting himself when he did that . He did not contact her during this period, was giving her space, and also protecting himself. I think he deserves that space himself. He put the ball in QS court.
Are they going to delete any 💋 kissing scenes??
It looks like it, the new trailer does not have a single kiss scene..!! And the trailer also looked very 'eh'.. focused more on the side characters than the main characters.
After watching Episodes 11 & 12 just now, I am now positive that they are heading for the breakup in this show as well. They talk about "dignity", "Feels like dreaming.. afraid of waking up".. And I can see that FL's father will take up the role of FL's mother in the Korean version.
There's also talk about FL "standing up for oneself" after she got together with ML - in this case, the Korean version delved deeply into it. Before FL used let her superiors boss her around.. let them take advantage of her.. like inappropriate touching and all when drinking at the company dinners, nothing more.. and after she got together with ML, she starts to stand up for herself reject all these advances.
Controlling parents is a common thing in Asia. It's their way of showing care and love. The children, however, need to stand up for themselves when they feel their parents are crossing the boundaries. My parents are controlling, but I have set some boundaries and make sure they don't cross them.
In the Korean version, FL's mother was completely against their relationship, which I reckon will be FL's father in the Chinese version. Her mother was mainly against it because ML was an orphan and he is younger than FL.. so she was just plain humiliating ML all the time and FL endured, endured, hoping her mother would change her mind one day, before she could not take it and broke up with ML so that he could be saved from all the humiliation he is enduring by being in this relationship. The break up happened at the end of the series.. and I did not the closure they gave.. ML got mad and left for USA (?).. he came back 3 years later.. they literally get back together in the very last scene of the show. I'm not too familiar with Korean culture, and so I don't see why there is hate for orphans. FL's mother was initially amiable and loved ML and his sister as her own.. until she got to know about ML and FL dating, she just took a 360 turn and started hating on them. FL's father was a cool guy though.. he supported the relationship.. even FL's brother supported them.
Ok, I've watched it until Ep 10, and I am positive that this is a remake of (or rather heavily inspired by) 'Something in the Rain' Korean drama.
Even so, I am very much enjoying this interpretation, with its own changes.. however, I am dreading the break-up that's gonna happen if this series continues to take inspiration from 'Something in the Rain'. I did not enjoy that in 'Something in the Rain', and I sure as hell would not enjoy it in this drama too.. they are too sweet. If they do go with the breakup, I would rather it happened a bit earlier (maybe give us another 2 or 3 episodes after they reconcile).. that was my main gripe with 'Something in the Rain'.
ALP does start very slow and picks up well after 10-15 eps. I have seen the ratings and reviews on here during…
I guess it's each to their own opinion. I do love acting in LAR, but I think acting in ALP tops that. Not just the ML and the FL, but the whole cast in general. And Xu Kai, the ML, is someone who can act with his eyes.. and has a lot of range, which this series will prove to you if you watch it to the end.
First two ep in:- beautiful cinematography & amazing cgi- boring story- bland FL & ML character- weak acting-…
ALP does start very slow and picks up well after 10-15 eps. I have seen the ratings and reviews on here during the initial eps and they were not encouraging, but as the story progressed, the ratings and reviews did a complete flip around - at this point, I was yet to watch this show, so I know what to expect from the first few episodes, but I still liked them very much. After completing the show, you will come to appreciate the first few episodes which contributed to the character introductions and their relationships, world-building etc.
With regards to comparisons between ALP and LAR, I don't know which I like the most. Probably I like them both equally.
I can point out in what departments I think ALP is superior to LAR:
Acting - definitely acting. While I do love the acting in LAR, I think the acting in ALP beats it. Especially the ML and FL in this, the difference they show in portraying 2-3 different characters they play, I think that is very hard to pull off.
VFX - yeah, no doubt.
Main Antagonist - I feel like the antagonist in ALP is deeply layered.
Xu Kai has a drama coming out with Yang Mi. I started this drama so I may fall for him, so that when I see him…
As Draco above said, not everyone will like it, I suppose. If you want a better introduction to Xu Kai, I'd suggest Arsenal Military Academy, if you're into Republican era dramas.. well, I was not into Republican era dramas before this.. and didn't like any other after this.. so you can say this was the exception.. and this drama was my introduction to Xu Kai, so when I went into this drama, I had no expectations.. it turned out great. So, maybe give it a try? Xu Kai's acting in this drama earned him Best Actor awards. And his chemistry with Bai Lu was just top-notch.
Another drama I suggest will be Ancient Love Poetry (just to warn you, the first few episodes will be boring, as it focuses on world building, character introductions.. but they are important.. and then in the later episodes it gets better and better and better.. like we've seen dramas that start great, but go downhill at the end. This one's reverse). Again, his acting was incredible in this. I'm very excited for She and Her Perfect Husband. Xu Kai, once again, is coming up with a new look and new type of character he's never explored. And it looks like, for the first time, he is voicing his own character in this show.
I think there is explanation in the novel, at least I read it somewhere here - the tribulation is over. The tribulation…
Thank you for explaining the Tribulation in detail.
There is this other point that I am not quite satisfied with. Qingmu and Houchi's happy ending. I don't believe that Houchi can forgive Bai Jue, even if he did what he did to protect Shanggu. Bai Jue hurt her pride, humiliated her, took away her love, shattered her heart, caused death of her only 'parent'. That is too much damage for one to forgive. So, to say that Houchi and Qingmu are part of Shanggu and Bai Jue: Having their (BJ and SG) happy ending does not mean a happy ending for Houchi and Qingmu. I really hope that Shanggu and Bai Jue can find a way to separate themselves from Houchi and Qingmu and give them their life back.. probably also give their son back to them to raise. Cause it seems neither Bai Jue nor Shanggu cared enough to raise Yuanqi well. Bai Jue, for his reasons, kept his distance from Yuanqi, while Shanggu, after Bai Jue's sacrifice, did not much care for her son.
Ok, so I've been lurking in this comment section ever since this drama started airing, reading spoilers and discussions. I wanted to start watching after all the episodes are available for free on wetv app, and so I did. Binge-watched it all in 3 days. wow, what a wild ride. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
I have to disagree with folks regarding the ending. I think this ending is pretty good, leaves a lot to our wonderful imagination. Maybe a 3-4 min montage of what happens next can be shown at best, but having an extra episode will put the story in an awkward position if you ask me. Like there are some important questions that need to be asked but are best left unanswered and having an extra episode might scratch surfaces of those questions. Like who's going to take on the next Tribulation? Their son? Shanggu? Or Bai Jue? What will happen then?
Did anyone get Mo Qing (The Legends) vibes from Xu Kai's portrayal of Bai Jue (post-Qingmu)? Big fan of Xu Kai since Arsenal Military Academy.
Have to say, I wasn't excited about Zhou Dong Yu and her pairing with Xu Kai. I was proven wrong after watching the show. The chemistry was on point and Zhou Dong Yu nailed her acting. My favorite pairing with Xu Kai will still be Bai Lu.. if a pairing can create exciting sparks without any skinship or kiss scenes (re: Arsenal Military Academy), then that pairing is, imo, #1.
9/10 - would def rate 10/10 if not for the bad editing in some parts that took me out of the story for a while.
Most of ep 28 was not from the novel, it was created for the drama. Lu Si Cheng never had any falling out with his teammates. The anti-fan in the police station incident, and Lu Si Cheng's wrist pain issue aside, basically everything else in that episode can be said to be created for the drama.
YH did reveal his feelings. Drunken confession aside, when YH brought up the divorce, he confirmed his feelings again. Yes, he did not say "I Love you", but what he said to her confirms that he loves her and more. In my view, his words are more powerful than simple "I love you".
All QS had to was to respond to them and they would not need to go through all these misunderstandings. But she never did. Until the last scene, that is also because YH came back, did she reveal her feelings for him.
QS also acknowledged to herself that she indeed loves YH, right after they got their divorce certificate, she did so in her car.
YH put the ball in QS's court when he divorced her. To him, QS was only in this marriage because they are married and she would never divorce. To him, QS would never get back with her ex because she is married and would never divorce nor would she cheat on her husband. He doesn't know that it's because she loves him and wants to be with him. She never let him know that.
So YH divorced her, let her sort her own feelings for her ex or for him. If she goes back to her ex, then he would silently retreat. So yes, when he got to know that she has some misunderstanding about his relationship with his ex, he was confused. Then YY gave him this bad plan, which he went through with.. bad plan/move as it may be, this is the fastest way for him to know what QS feels for him. I can understand why he went through with it. I can empathize with him.
If she chases after him to the airport, then he would know that QS loves him.. the misunderstandings between them would be resolved there at the airport when QS sees the situation for herself. Alas, he didn't see her at the airport.. which means, to him, she did not care for him enough. So he would give her more space.
From QS's end, she only chased after him to the airport when she got to know from her parents about what YH feels for her and why he divorced her (again, she already knows what he feels about her.. he made it clear when he asked for the divorce).
So, who's to be blamed here?
Yes, QS made it clear to YH that she would not go back to her ex. But the way she conveyed it was like, "I'm married to you, of course I wouldn't get back with him. That would be an affair. We Qins never divorce." All the talk about her assuring to YH that she would never get back her ex is actually not at all assuring. Basically she was saying to YH that if they were not married, then she can't tell for sure. Maybe she would be dating her ex again.. even marry him.
This is not about YH's jealousy anymore. It's his knowledge that he is tying QS by marriage, which is probably restricting her feelings for her ex. That was the reason he divorced her. It's the only way for QS to figure out her feelings for ex and YH.
After the divorce and his interactions with his ex, how would you have YH make it clear to QS that he had no romantic entanglement with his ex anymore when he wasn't even aware of QS's misunderstanding about him and his ex? It was all in QS's mind.. and he didn't know about it until the last episode? He was even confused about this situation at this point.
They are already divorced at this point and are giving each other SPACE to sort out their feelings. Space means not bothering each other for a while.
With regards to YH conveying his feelings for QS, I would argue that his drunken confession holds a lot of weight. And he also confessed a few times that he likes her..
Yes, QS confirmed that they are a relationship first, but the one who made the move was definitely YH. He was the one who confessed. But confirming that they are in a relationship does not equate to QS confirming her feelings for him.
And indeed, as a viewer, there is a huge difference between QS/TJH interactions and YH/YY interactions.
QS/TJH still have some lingering feelings between them (given that their break-up was not clean, it is understandable). While QS did not reciprocate them, TJH was pestering her. He wants her back while he was in a relationship with another woman.. He's even engaged!!! She herself is married!!! That is a huge red flag right there.!!! I'm not saying she should give up her job to stay away from him, but she should've found ways to stay away from him.. And she can if she wants to, but I didn't see any efforts.
So saying that their work is the reason why she is still entangled with her ex is a moot point here. That ex is still in love with her.. trying to pursue her again, while he's engaged to another woman and she's married to another man. That's not a normal "only work" relationship.
While in YH/YY interactions, there are no romantic feelings between them at all, not one bit. Just two old friends supporting each other. They are the most pure ones here, but just because QS has been overthinking about their entanglement... and YH doesn't know about QS's thoughts,..while they were divorced and not seeing each other. Yes, let's blame YH for this.
It's been a while since I watched this show and I may have some things wrong.
For once you see QS feeling flustered and jealous and lost, and everyone's angry about the situation? YH has been in this situation for a big part of the show, where is the outrage?
The last few episodes, QS is the one who was overthinking things regarding YH and his ex. YH has no idea about it until the last episode.. so it is reasonable he is confused about this situation and went along with his ex's plan.. again, he is still confused about it at this point, and probably made a bad move. But that still does not cover the fact that YH was always the one who voiced out his romantic feelings. One bad move from YH, compared to many bad moves from QS. Double standard?
QS on the other hand had always felt secure knowing he was there loving her. But still chose to work with her ex, hurting her husband's feelings in the process. It doesn't matter how much she assures YH that there is nothing there between her and her ex. The fact is that YH knows that there is some unfinished business between QS and her ex. And it also doesn't help that she never confessed her feelings to YH. YH, rightfully, should feel insecure. So he put out the divorce idea. Once they divorced, he gave her space to sort out her feelings. I think he is just protecting himself when he did that . He did not contact her during this period, was giving her space, and also protecting himself. I think he deserves that space himself. He put the ball in QS court.
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And I can see that FL's father will take up the role of FL's mother in the Korean version.
There's also talk about FL "standing up for oneself" after she got together with ML - in this case, the Korean version delved deeply into it.
Before FL used let her superiors boss her around.. let them take advantage of her.. like inappropriate touching and all when drinking at the company dinners, nothing more.. and after she got together with ML, she starts to stand up for herself reject all these advances.
My parents are controlling, but I have set some boundaries and make sure they don't cross them.
Her mother was mainly against it because ML was an orphan and he is younger than FL.. so she was just plain humiliating ML all the time and FL endured, endured, hoping her mother would change her mind one day, before she could not take it and broke up with ML so that he could be saved from all the humiliation he is enduring by being in this relationship. The break up happened at the end of the series.. and I did not the closure they gave.. ML got mad and left for USA (?).. he came back 3 years later.. they literally get back together in the very last scene of the show.
I'm not too familiar with Korean culture, and so I don't see why there is hate for orphans. FL's mother was initially amiable and loved ML and his sister as her own.. until she got to know about ML and FL dating, she just took a 360 turn and started hating on them. FL's father was a cool guy though.. he supported the relationship.. even FL's brother supported them.
Even so, I am very much enjoying this interpretation, with its own changes.. however, I am dreading the break-up that's gonna happen if this series continues to take inspiration from 'Something in the Rain'.
I did not enjoy that in 'Something in the Rain', and I sure as hell would not enjoy it in this drama too.. they are too sweet.
If they do go with the breakup, I would rather it happened a bit earlier (maybe give us another 2 or 3 episodes after they reconcile).. that was my main gripe with 'Something in the Rain'.
And Xu Kai, the ML, is someone who can act with his eyes.. and has a lot of range, which this series will prove to you if you watch it to the end.
With regards to comparisons between ALP and LAR, I don't know which I like the most. Probably I like them both equally.
I can point out in what departments I think ALP is superior to LAR:
Acting - definitely acting. While I do love the acting in LAR, I think the acting in ALP beats it. Especially the ML and FL in this, the difference they show in portraying 2-3 different characters they play, I think that is very hard to pull off.
VFX - yeah, no doubt.
Main Antagonist - I feel like the antagonist in ALP is deeply layered.
Best Cast Ensemble.
Another drama I suggest will be Ancient Love Poetry (just to warn you, the first few episodes will be boring, as it focuses on world building, character introductions.. but they are important.. and then in the later episodes it gets better and better and better.. like we've seen dramas that start great, but go downhill at the end. This one's reverse). Again, his acting was incredible in this.
I'm very excited for She and Her Perfect Husband. Xu Kai, once again, is coming up with a new look and new type of character he's never explored. And it looks like, for the first time, he is voicing his own character in this show.
There is this other point that I am not quite satisfied with. Qingmu and Houchi's happy ending. I don't believe that Houchi can forgive Bai Jue, even if he did what he did to protect Shanggu. Bai Jue hurt her pride, humiliated her, took away her love, shattered her heart, caused death of her only 'parent'. That is too much damage for one to forgive. So, to say that Houchi and Qingmu are part of Shanggu and Bai Jue: Having their (BJ and SG) happy ending does not mean a happy ending for Houchi and Qingmu. I really hope that Shanggu and Bai Jue can find a way to separate themselves from Houchi and Qingmu and give them their life back.. probably also give their son back to them to raise. Cause it seems neither Bai Jue nor Shanggu cared enough to raise Yuanqi well. Bai Jue, for his reasons, kept his distance from Yuanqi, while Shanggu, after Bai Jue's sacrifice, did not much care for her son.
I have to disagree with folks regarding the ending. I think this ending is pretty good, leaves a lot to our wonderful imagination. Maybe a 3-4 min montage of what happens next can be shown at best, but having an extra episode will put the story in an awkward position if you ask me. Like there are some important questions that need to be asked but are best left unanswered and having an extra episode might scratch surfaces of those questions. Like who's going to take on the next Tribulation? Their son? Shanggu? Or Bai Jue? What will happen then?
Did anyone get Mo Qing (The Legends) vibes from Xu Kai's portrayal of Bai Jue (post-Qingmu)? Big fan of Xu Kai since Arsenal Military Academy.
Have to say, I wasn't excited about Zhou Dong Yu and her pairing with Xu Kai. I was proven wrong after watching the show. The chemistry was on point and Zhou Dong Yu nailed her acting.
My favorite pairing with Xu Kai will still be Bai Lu.. if a pairing can create exciting sparks without any skinship or kiss scenes (re: Arsenal Military Academy), then that pairing is, imo, #1.
9/10 - would def rate 10/10 if not for the bad editing in some parts that took me out of the story for a while.