Iβm midway through the drama where do ra mi takes over her body. Iβm really liking this except I canβt get…
I am definitely putting the psychosis (and my frustration) aside too. It's coming across as 100% plot device...and it's the Hong sisters. So I'm telling myself it's 'magical realism'. For now.
In an interesting co-incidence, I JUST finished watching the Aurora episode and we're heading out shortly to try to capture the Southern Aurora... It's times like this, I wish I weren't such a nihilist and could believe it was a double lucky sign π
It's hard to fathom from an outside perspective but when you consider that "Affirmative Consent" (i.e. enthusiastic and ongoing YES to Sex) only exists as a law in a few nations (about half of Europe, Canada, Aust, NZ) it represents a very widespread view that if you're not yelling and screaming and fighting...you must've wanted it. So really you should've just said yes.
She was also basically told by the judge that she should have consented! Not bad enough that her silence in the moment was considered consent. Such a brutal system. Regardless of whether anyone thinks he was proved innocent, I would never want any females I know, working with him. The case definitely and very publicly, proved he did not care for the woman's experience, or feelings AT ALL.
Purely for my curiosity...can you give me some examples of the pro China propaganda you mentioned? I'm only at…
I thought the mum having an unpleasant time in the US, was more a statement that their son was very unfilial, rather than 'China is better than US'. And the other examples came off much more as patriotic to me, rather than propaganda, but thanks so much for clarifying! It's genuinely so interesting to me, how we can watch the same scenes and have really, very different perspectives. And I love having a site like MDL to chat about it. Thankyou!
What a sweet enjoyable drama. No rushed ending. Iβm still grinning just thinking about the progression of their…
Purely for my curiosity...can you give me some examples of the pro China propaganda you mentioned? I'm only at ep 32 but I haven't seen anything I'd call propaganda so far π¬. Am I missing something?
Waiting for the day that Makers make more fictional realistic male character dramas instead of the green flags…
Personally, I'm the opposite. I'm waiting for IRL people to experience personal growth and become green flags. I see these fictional dramas as the examples of positive modelling that people need. I wish more people would watch them and learn - humans tend to need to see it in order to be it. But in saying that, I might somewhat agree with you if say; dramas started with very realistic characters, who then underwent massive character growth, to become green flags. I'd watch the hell out of that.
Badass Bunny, I LOVE your editorials. Please keep doing them! I also respect your opinion here. You actually made me contemplate the idea of tone deafness and performance. And consequently question myself. For days TBH. I read this on the first day it popped into my feed, and I've been contemplating since (day 6 now) and I have to be honest with myself...I am a complete a-hole when it comes to tone-deafness. I am not at all qualified to judge - my music training is mid. I have it...multi instrument but not to a pro level. I was never going to make a profession of it (for reasons mostly associated with my upbringing and what was considered an aceptable profession) But I'm definitely a pretentious wan*@r when it comes to pitch. I love how accepting and open and respectful you are. But pairing my pitch issues, with my general loathing of all things "Reality TV", it's a big NOPE from me. I will probably track down the videos, to experience the sense of kidness and quiet joy you convey towards the performers. But I might have to mute
South Korea entertainment industry is a very competitive place especially for ones in k pop and k dramas industryShe…
"She got the role as she was best to replace JSM" ...actually I'm pretty sure it was the other way around. Go Youn Jung was first to be offered, and accepted the role in AOS; and then as things got started, she pulled out over her own concerns that she wasn't up to it. JSM was cast at the last minute, to replace GYJ. Anywho, I'm a fan. She's fantastic in 'Law School' and 'Resident Playbook', and I think this will be dimpled and charming.
Kim Yeong Ho from Oh My Venus is considered a green flag?? I need to go rewatch the drama cause I saved him as…
I'm a huge fan of O My Venus and have rewatched, too many times tbh. I think the weight issues, bias how many view Yeong Ho.... Apologies if this is a bit preachy about something you've already seen but here goes π¬ ...If you go back to the beginning, he is flirting HARD with her, from the first moment they meet on the aeroplane. He sees her as attractive, from the get go, but notices signs (other than her weight) of ill health. He ends up helping her lose weight, because she forces him to, and for her health, not because of her appearance. And the Netflix subs are NOT great tbh. I feel like there's a bit of subtlety to the dialogue (along with a whole lot of unsubtle swearing) thatβs just not conveyed in the translation. The one aspect of him which puts the green flag into question, is the way he withdraws when he's vulnerable, but otherwise π
Thank you for mentioning "Come and Hug Me". I feel it's become an under-rated classic at this point. But I also feel that Han Jae Yi is the one who deserves the green flag. She accepts Na Mu, for himself, despite his horrific parent. And whilst we're talking about it, I have to mention Kim Kyung Nam for his utterly peerless portrayal of Na Mu's tortured brother. He's a desperately under-rated SK actor IMO! (Totally off topic but Come and Hug Me is for me, the weirdest English translation title for a K-Drama. I can't help but think it makes people skip it, who would otherwise LOVE it!)
My brief and completely incomplete list of other green flags: * The main couples of "Meet Yourself" and "You Are My Hero" (...my city and fortress) Couple goals! *Cha Mi Hyun from "Thirty-Nine". You are my sister...I do not care that you're adopted and cannot fathom that anyone else does! *Kim Dong Sik from "Misaeng". Call it type-casting but Kim Dae Myung seems to have made a living out of portraying the quiet and unassuming, but potently compelling 'Warrior For Justice'; off the back of this role in Misaeng. And *My ultimate green flag for how to do consent on a daily basis... Jiang Shi Yan of 'You Are My Lover, Friend' - Ask your question, then WAIT for the answer, and actually respect and act upon that answer. Hold out your hand to be taken, rather than taking. Move in to kiss but leave a space and wait for the other person to close the gap. Always leave room for the other person to feel safe, and escape if they need to. Show that you fully and completely understand that your partner is autonomous -YOU DON'T OWN your partner, despite your relationship status.
this girl is so so stunning! OMG look at her face card! I can't be bored looking at her all day. I mean she's…
Wholeheaetedly Agree! I hope her agency puts her forward for more movies. I feel like she has so much depth that her talent is a bit wasted in dramas. Her skill is in naturalism/realism. IMO so many k-dramas have that soap opera/pantomime/over-acting style. That's what people become accustomed to; so when someone more subtle appears, they can't actually see it. I feel like she will continue to receive hate, (particularly from international audiences) because of her subtlety, until she gets recognition for a movie project. π€·ββοΈ
It's times like this, I wish I weren't such a nihilist and could believe it was a double lucky sign π
Regardless of whether anyone thinks he was proved innocent, I would never want any females I know, working with him. The case definitely and very publicly, proved he did not care for the woman's experience, or feelings AT ALL.
And the other examples came off much more as patriotic to me, rather than propaganda, but thanks so much for clarifying!
It's genuinely so interesting to me, how we can watch the same scenes and have really, very different perspectives. And I love having a site like MDL to chat about it. Thankyou!
But in saying that, I might somewhat agree with you if say; dramas started with very realistic characters, who then underwent massive character growth, to become green flags. I'd watch the hell out of that.
I also respect your opinion here. You actually made me contemplate the idea of tone deafness and performance. And consequently question myself. For days TBH.
I read this on the first day it popped into my feed, and I've been contemplating since (day 6 now) and I have to be honest with myself...I am a complete a-hole when it comes to tone-deafness. I am not at all qualified to judge - my music training is mid. I have it...multi instrument but not to a pro level. I was never going to make a profession of it (for reasons mostly associated with my upbringing and what was considered an aceptable profession) But I'm definitely a pretentious wan*@r when it comes to pitch.
I love how accepting and open and respectful you are. But pairing my pitch issues, with my general loathing of all things "Reality TV", it's a big NOPE from me.
I will probably track down the videos, to experience the sense of kidness and quiet joy you convey towards the performers. But I might have to mute
Anywho, I'm a fan. She's fantastic in 'Law School' and 'Resident Playbook', and I think this will be dimpled and charming.
Apologies if this is a bit preachy about something you've already seen but here goes π¬
...If you go back to the beginning, he is flirting HARD with her, from the first moment they meet on the aeroplane. He sees her as attractive, from the get go, but notices signs (other than her weight) of ill health. He ends up helping her lose weight, because she forces him to, and for her health, not because of her appearance.
And the Netflix subs are NOT great tbh. I feel like there's a bit of subtlety to the dialogue (along with a whole lot of unsubtle swearing) thatβs just not conveyed in the translation.
The one aspect of him which puts the green flag into question, is the way he withdraws when he's vulnerable, but otherwise π
(Totally off topic but Come and Hug Me is for me, the weirdest English translation title for a K-Drama. I can't help but think it makes people skip it, who would otherwise LOVE it!)
My brief and completely incomplete list of other green flags:
* The main couples of "Meet Yourself" and "You Are My Hero" (...my city and fortress) Couple goals!
*Cha Mi Hyun from "Thirty-Nine". You are my sister...I do not care that you're adopted and cannot fathom that anyone else does!
*Kim Dong Sik from "Misaeng". Call it type-casting but Kim Dae Myung seems to have made a living out of portraying the quiet and unassuming, but potently compelling 'Warrior For Justice'; off the back of this role in Misaeng.
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*My ultimate green flag for how to do consent on a daily basis... Jiang Shi Yan of 'You Are My Lover, Friend' - Ask your question, then WAIT for the answer, and actually respect and act upon that answer. Hold out your hand to be taken, rather than taking. Move in to kiss but leave a space and wait for the other person to close the gap. Always leave room for the other person to feel safe, and escape if they need to. Show that you fully and completely understand that your partner is autonomous -YOU DON'T OWN your partner, despite your relationship status.