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he will try to, but he'll just prove to the audience that Shu Yi really loves Shi Yan

The stars proved that they are worthy to be called stars.

Bai Lu's Shu Yi is such a complex character - smart, hard-working with strong work ethics, good daughter and many other good qualities. Yet, she is flawed. As her mother said, she's spoiled. She's self-centered and selfish. She wouldn't have agreed to flirt ot toy with a guy otherwise. Another flaw is her compunction to lie. And this led to her contant inner turmoil. A less capable actress would have made this character obnoxious. But Bai Lu made her likeable.

Dylan played Shi Yan to perfection. He's innately reserved and taciturn but warm. He has to try to look stoic, capable and mature when dealing with business associates especially those who undermine his capabilities due to his youth and lack of experience. His dignified demeanor oozes "silver spoon" upbringing. But he shows vulnerability when with Shu Yi. Another complex character portrayed perfectly.

I might not have made myself clear. Antis, not me, claim it's "trashy", as if cdramas have the best writing and direction in the world. Though I like cdramas, i am pretty aware that they cannot compete with American and British shows in terms of writing and direction. Yet critics of this drama have nitpicked it as if it's the only cdrama that has these flaws. Some have even claimed there's "no plot". Those who understood the plot therefore know that the criticisms are not valid thus watched and enjoyed it despite the many attempts to discredit it

Those who like this drama understand the story and characters so they know the criticisms are not valid and are just feeble attempts to undermine the drama

it's amazing how this drama remained popular even after being nitpicked and thrashed viciously

yup, I really like the slow-burn romance. it's more realistic. anyway, it's not the quantity but quality of kisses that matters. Bai Lu and Dylan sure know how to kiss 😊

Choose your battles. There's no use arguing with those who don't try to understand what you're trying to say just as they don't try to understand this drama and its characters. When people criticize you personally, you've won. So those who have been called airhead, braindead or blind, cheer up. As Margaret Thatcher said, “... if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single (political) argument left.”

So on to cheering for our drama. I wonder if the critics of this drama realize that the more "trashy" they claim it to be, the more they're making it obvious how formidable the stars are. Bai Lu and Dylan Wang are able to carry this drama to great heights even with what antis claim are "trashy" script and direction. But those who understand the story and characters of this drama know that such criticisms are not true so they don't get swayed by the attempts to defame it.

Only For Love reached a Datawin series index of 2.408 which means a huge hit.
https://twitter.com/Natapori/status/1728064873521906006

That's a true measure of greatness, being able to overcome, through extraordinary talent and charisma, such a deluge of attempts to defame this drama.

Putting this here so everyone is on the same page. Here is the google definition of anti - someone who enjoys writing, discussing or in some cases making derivative works about a piece of media, but solely for the purpose of railing against or parodying it.

What does "railing against" mean? It means criticizing. So if you say the script of a drama is bad, trash, beyond saving, etc, or you claim a drama has no plot or makes no sense, you are an anti of that drama. Somebody who gives a drama a 1-star or similarly low score is an anti.

What does "parodying" mean? Per Oxford Languages, a parody is a humorous or mocking imitation of something, using the same form as the original. A parody is a form of humor that spoofs . In the context of this thread, it means making fun of the drama.

In summary, if you criticize or make fun of something, accortding to Oxford Languages, you are an anti.

I hope this is clear. Anti is not a slur, definitely not the same as how those who like the drama are being called airheads or braindead.

Please see my answer to moonorchid for the meaning of anti. Calling the script bad and beyoind saving is railing against it, the definition of anti. It's not being dismissive to call antis antis. It's stating the obvious. For us who like the drama, the plot makes a lot of sense.

Please see my answer to @moonorchid for the meaning of anti. I've seen other cdramas with worse scripts. Compared to American and British shows, cdramas really can't compare. But I haven't seen cdramas that have been skewerd like this one as if this has the worst script in cdrama history which it isn't. By the way, calling something trash is railing against it. And that's the definition of anti.

Here's the google definition of anti-fan - someone who enjoys writing, discussing or in some cases making derivative works about a piece of media, but solely for the purpose of railing against or parodying it. I'm just stating the obvious. Aren't those viewers who are complaining about the drama railing against it, and even parodying it? There's a discussion topic that is a good example of a parody of this drama. So you rail against the drama but don't want to be called anti and is even insulting me? So antis can insult those who like this drama calling us airheads and we can't say why we love this drama? Where's the logic in that? Better yet, where's the justice in that? I'm not going to stoop so low as to throw your insults back at you. I will just reiterate this point - if antis can rail against the drama, why can't those who love the drama profess our love for the drama without being insulted?

i never skip dramas coz i want to make sure i don’t miss anything. who knows, a skipped conversation between characters you deem unimportant might be significant. skipping would also cause you to lose the immersive experience. i never found this drama dragging coz i was interested in all the characters and was analyzing their actions and motives. if you skip scenes, you would have a hard time understanding the plot or immersing youself in the story, so no wonder you felt it was dragging. i found bai lu’s character immensely interesting. she’s smart, a dutiful daughter, has good work ethics, hardworking, but terribly flawed emotionally. in the hands of another actress, shu yin would have been obnoxious. but bai lu made her likeable.

yup, i think this is the last long wait. though i think some days will just have 1 episode

aside from the mind-conditioning started by yxh (internet users paid to defame a celebrity/drama) and water armies (paid to propagate negativity) in china, i think the other main culprit that gets viewers antsy is the schedule. three days without new episodes is just too long a wait for a bai lu/wang hedi drama. and some days with just one episode also feel lacking. whoever does the scheduling should consider that the hotter the stars are, the more antsy fans will get, thus more likely to complain about everything under the sun 😫 In addition, a regular schedule is more comfortable.

thanks!

not bad at all. it’s slow burn. the leads took their time to get together which for me is perfectly okay, i enjoy the chase. but a lot of viewers got antsy. maybe the chemistry is just so overpowering that viewers wanted to see the kissing scenes right away 😏

a lot of people, including me, found this drama enjoyable. "script is trash", "repetitive plots" are reviews that i read in weibo and douban, most likely spread by yxh and water armies as @HangInThere pointed out. but many cdramas have bad writing and repetitive plots that have not been nitpicked like this. in fact, a lot of cdramas have repetitive flashbacks too that I find really annoying, but I take it as just being typical cdrama. And I have long accepted dragginess as part of cdramas, though I wasn't bothered by it here. if you're rating a cdrama you need to compare it with other cdramas. if you compare cdramas against, say, a British production like The Crown, and say you rated TC a 10, no cdrama will have a rating above 8.

it's likely a comic relief at the same time suggesting they're on the same wavelength

there's a swarm of antis in this thread. if you focus on the story and don't nitpick it, you won't find it draggy. I enjoyed it

i'm seeing twitter posts saying the wedding is gonna be shown tomorrow 24 Nov instead of 29 Nov. how true?