He was groomed. When you've brought up as a small boy somewhere to be beaten you've been groomed. You've been…
Obviously. You would have said no hablo Español. It's pretty much the only language besides English that I speak. No longer fluently but I can read it well.
He was groomed. When you've brought up as a small boy somewhere to be beaten you've been groomed. You've been…
I'm afraid that I don't speak German or Mandarin. I could probably read Spanish well enough.
But at least I now understand your atrocious command of the English language. It's why I didn't say anything initially because we do get people from all countries.
Alright, episode 8 was absolute fire, as always editing is especially amazing, JimmyOhm part specifically was…
Maybe they didn't want to spend that much time in the makeup room, plus he was always dressed when being beaten and I didn't see his clothes getting torn or any blood during the scenes. So could be that he was red afterwards but not cut by the whip.
He was groomed. When you've brought up as a small boy somewhere to be beaten you've been groomed. You've been…
No I call a 45-year-old acting like you are immature and possibly not well educated. You don't have to agree with me but instead of arguing the subject you're just getting all frustrated and having a tantrum.
And the question of abuse isn't merely about being abused as a child. It's a matter of being able to grow up, hopefully make healthy choices in life and then move on.
If one of those healthy choices as an adult is that you like rough sex, you like wearing a collar, you like licking the floor and wearing your Dom's dirty panties then that's an adult choice.
But you have to have lived through that initial abuse, come out the other side, and THEN choose.
Edit. And the correspondence with my friend the Dom occurred over 20 years ago. There pretty much wasn't an internet. It was phone calls, sometimes emails. He died In 2004 which was a year after my husband died. I went to his funeral. I met his wife and many other people in the community. I promised him I would watch out for his slave (wife) and I did for a few years after his death.
He was groomed. When you've brought up as a small boy somewhere to be beaten you've been groomed. You've been…
There isn't anything to prove. Anyone abused as a child, kept in that lifestyle throughout their life has been groomed and has not made an informed choice.
Can't believe I'm sitting here arguing with a bunch of children.
Edit. And I will add that trying to bully me will get you the exact opposite outcome that you are hoping for. I've spent my entire career in high powered positions slapping down men who would dare cross me and usually being the smartest person in the room. I'm retired now so I've got plenty of time to correct children who think they know something.
He was groomed. When you've brought up as a small boy somewhere to be beaten you've been groomed. You've been…
I understand it and even the master Dom that I corresponded with for over a year during my research agreed with me.
People who agree to be slaves in 24/7 power exchange relationships do so as adults. And real consent can't be given if you've been physically or sexually abused as a child.
I've pretty much done as much research as can be done about BDSM without actually participating in the lifestyle. Maybe after the series is over I'll also post my reading list.
I loved the series for the first 3 episodes, and then as it progressed through the series and deviated more and…
They wrote the series to highlight a Zee NuNew relationship. As soon as the series is over I intend to read the novel and I'd be more than happy to have a discussion here about it afterwards.
But I find it very confusing when people tell me stuff from the novel that is never going to be presented in the series. It kind of ruins the series for me.
The Khanin from the novel couldn't be played by NuNew in the series.
Domundi writes series about fated relationships and virginal forever after love. May not be your thing and I can understand that.
I wrote a fairly long response a couple of days ago if you feel like fishing it out that further explains why I don't see certain aspects of the novel coming out in the series.
Unfortunately someone decided to spoil me which is somewhat spoiling my enjoyment of the series.
now want to come up with how paytai was "groomed" and use all the other buzzwords? This is a pure bdsm relationship.…
He was groomed. When you've brought up as a small boy somewhere to be beaten you've been groomed. You've been shown that violence is something you should accept.
The only revelation in this particular episode is that Ramil recognized that he was doing a version of the same thing his father does by beating and choking Paytai during sex.
Paytai doesn't want to get beaten but he's confused. Because the only bit of protection he gets is from Ramil. And even if they stay together forever both of those boys would have been groomed and abused.
Ridiculous that people don't understand what being groomed means.
And if we want to take it to modern times Emmanuel Macron was groomed, Celine Dion was groomed, and certainly Vili Fualaau was groomed.
The product placement isnt even subtle with this series 🤣
Makes me want to put Lolani hair products out of business. It is so irritating. If I actually lived in Thailand I would never buy this stuff for the annoying commercials all by itself.
Here's a BTS clip that I'm pretty sure you won't see on Mandee Channel. Zee and Nu discussing their NC scene and…
I knew that Zee and NuNew would never talk about their own sex life, provided they are together and having sex. Found a much better translation by rkatepuka who translates a lot of ZeeNuNew videos.
👦🏻: What are these?
💙: We’re folding our clothes. We are moving from here to the other room. Both of us are tidy people so we’re going to get them folded, right? Nhu?
( NuNew keeps staring and smiling at Zee )
💙: Don’t make that suspicious face!
💗: Don’t do me!!
💙: Why do you make that suspicious face?
👦🏻: Ahh come on ~ how was the first time of Charan and Khanin?
💙: First time of Charan and Khanin, how was it krub?
💗: I'm feeling เสียว (Feeling thrilled, extremely excited/high elevated mood) [NOTE : Nunew used the word ‘เสียว’ (Siew) this vocab means like you’re feeling very thrilled when you do something, mostly used when you’re on theme park ride or something about sexuality]
👦🏻: Ohh!
💙: Well, the first time of Charan and Khanin… I feel guilty for Khanin because I’m the bodyguard, like my heart want to go for the attack but I got to respect and be considerate to him, but after that I was kinda blending so I asked his permission something like that.
👦🏻: Was it different from EP8? (the Cutie Pie one)
💙: Totally different.
👦🏻: It’s like you’ve grown up, right?
💙: Yeah, it’s depending on the character and role. It’s a new, different style that we get to learn.
👦🏻: Do you feel if it’s beyond? (what you’ve ever done)
💙: Is it beyond?
💗: That scene looks too soft now comparing to this scene.
💙: If you comparing it to…(inaudible) you aren’t that soft.
💗: No, I’m not. I’ve changed. I’ve grown up. I’m already pretty. I’m already spicy. I’m going to be the one who starts (lead, active position, top position)
💙: Who said Nhu will lead? You’re both the leader and being passive too. I’m also the lead and passive too.
👦🏻: What’s this talk?! We can’t let this on air.
💙: Oh, can’t we?
👦🏻: You were so good, excellent job. Encourage each other.
💙: Thank you very much. Thank you for the honor (like thank you for your grace toward me in order to do it) and for giving me encouragement.
💗: What’s with the word ‘honor’? We’ve been together for 4 years already ka. Why so formal? Honorrr... haha
💗: Don’t do anything to meee! Didn’t you do it enough in the scene just now?
You can read the entire discussion about this here:
But at least I now understand your atrocious command of the English language. It's why I didn't say anything initially because we do get people from all countries.
And the question of abuse isn't merely about being abused as a child. It's a matter of being able to grow up, hopefully make healthy choices in life and then move on.
If one of those healthy choices as an adult is that you like rough sex, you like wearing a collar, you like licking the floor and wearing your Dom's dirty panties then that's an adult choice.
But you have to have lived through that initial abuse, come out the other side, and THEN choose.
Edit. And the correspondence with my friend the Dom occurred over 20 years ago. There pretty much wasn't an internet. It was phone calls, sometimes emails. He died In 2004 which was a year after my husband died. I went to his funeral. I met his wife and many other people in the community. I promised him I would watch out for his slave (wife) and I did for a few years after his death.
Can't believe I'm sitting here arguing with a bunch of children.
Edit. And I will add that trying to bully me will get you the exact opposite outcome that you are hoping for. I've spent my entire career in high powered positions slapping down men who would dare cross me and usually being the smartest person in the room. I'm retired now so I've got plenty of time to correct children who think they know something.
When I did this research I was in my late 40s I am 72 now. And I haven't lived at home since I was 18 years old so that would be 54 years ago.
I will agree that all people have trauma in their lives and we make decisions as imperfect people.
But if we make those decisions as adults, imperfect as we are, we are actually making a decision.
If we are in a captive situation since we were children we are not making a decision.
People who agree to be slaves in 24/7 power exchange relationships do so as adults. And real consent can't be given if you've been physically or sexually abused as a child.
I've pretty much done as much research as can be done about BDSM without actually participating in the lifestyle. Maybe after the series is over I'll also post my reading list.
But I find it very confusing when people tell me stuff from the novel that is never going to be presented in the series. It kind of ruins the series for me.
The Khanin from the novel couldn't be played by NuNew in the series.
Domundi writes series about fated relationships and virginal forever after love. May not be your thing and I can understand that.
I wrote a fairly long response a couple of days ago if you feel like fishing it out that further explains why I don't see certain aspects of the novel coming out in the series.
Unfortunately someone decided to spoil me which is somewhat spoiling my enjoyment of the series.
The only revelation in this particular episode is that Ramil recognized that he was doing a version of the same thing his father does by beating and choking Paytai during sex.
Paytai doesn't want to get beaten but he's confused. Because the only bit of protection he gets is from Ramil. And even if they stay together forever both of those boys would have been groomed and abused.
Ridiculous that people don't understand what being groomed means.
And if we want to take it to modern times Emmanuel Macron was groomed, Celine Dion was groomed, and certainly Vili Fualaau was groomed.
👦🏻: What are these?
💙: We’re folding our clothes. We are moving from here to the other room. Both of us are tidy people so we’re going to get them folded, right? Nhu?
( NuNew keeps staring and smiling at Zee )
💙: Don’t make that suspicious face!
💗: Don’t do me!!
💙: Why do you make that suspicious face?
👦🏻: Ahh come on ~ how was the first time of Charan and Khanin?
💙: First time of Charan and Khanin, how was it krub?
💗: I'm feeling เสียว (Feeling thrilled, extremely excited/high elevated mood) [NOTE : Nunew used the word ‘เสียว’ (Siew) this vocab means like you’re feeling very thrilled when you do something, mostly used when you’re on theme park ride or something about sexuality]
👦🏻: Ohh!
💙: Well, the first time of Charan and Khanin… I feel guilty for Khanin because I’m the bodyguard, like my heart want to go for the attack but I got to respect and be considerate to him, but after that I was kinda blending so I asked his permission something like that.
👦🏻: Was it different from EP8? (the Cutie Pie one)
💙: Totally different.
👦🏻: It’s like you’ve grown up, right?
💙: Yeah, it’s depending on the character and role. It’s a new, different style that we get to learn.
👦🏻: Do you feel if it’s beyond? (what you’ve ever done)
💙: Is it beyond?
💗: That scene looks too soft now comparing to this scene.
💙: If you comparing it to…(inaudible) you aren’t that soft.
💗: No, I’m not. I’ve changed. I’ve grown up. I’m already pretty. I’m already spicy. I’m going to be the one who starts (lead, active position, top position)
💙: Who said Nhu will lead? You’re both the leader and being passive too. I’m also the lead and passive too.
👦🏻: What’s this talk?! We can’t let this on air.
💙: Oh, can’t we?
👦🏻: You were so good, excellent job. Encourage each other.
💙: Thank you very much. Thank you for the honor (like thank you for your grace toward me in order to do it) and for giving me encouragement.
💗: What’s with the word ‘honor’? We’ve been together for 4 years already ka. Why so formal? Honorrr... haha
💗: Don’t do anything to meee! Didn’t you do it enough in the scene just now?
You can read the entire discussion about this here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeeNuNew/comments/1lc5twe/the_tnp_director_posted_a_bts_video_on_set_after/
Oh and if you're into BDSM you can try Unforgotten Night. There's even a throuple. No sap at all.