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Seriously if they give us anything but a happy ending for Shao Peng and Zi Xiang I’m going to riot! What the fuck is that cousin (or brother, the subtitles are confusing) thinking? What is the point?

I just got all riled up because there was a video on instagram with people all feeling sorry for Oh, some saying even that Oh loved Rak more then Fah, like excuse me?

You mean the guy who blackmailed Rak into getting him to his party. Oh his words were “if you come to the party I’ll stop messing with you, I’ll stop making you uncomfortable”. So you are telling me Oh knew that Rak felt uncomfortable but still kept doing it? Than at Oh his party he deliberately intoxicated Rak, then tried to SA him, Rak tried to get away but was pulled back by Oh on his arms. It came to the point that Fah had to and intervene. Oh tried to punch Fah when he found out about them having a relationship. It’s the teacher who showed up that made him not do it. It was Oh who blackmailed the girl into coming between Rak and Fah. Oh then tried to destroy Fah his bar with bad reviews, fights and lawsuits only because he could not accept no. And not to mention the fact that Oh tried to buy Rak with expensive gifts, with which Rak again did not feel comfortable with and tried to decline them. Rak had troubles saying no and Oh took advantage of that. You mean that guy loves Rak more than Fah?

That is not love, if you love a person you do not do these things. You respect said person and his boundaries, you accept his no.

All these things I said above are not things to romanticize over, these are toxic sides of a person! These are not things he did because of his upbringing. Loads of kids get neglected and abused by their parents and they do not do these toxic things!

Like how can you feel sorry for a guy like that?

I wonder if Oh’s mother hadn’t just said that to appease her son, Oh was already talking about wanting to have Fah’s bar shut down after the birthday incident. His mother told him I can’t help you with it, her literal words were “don’t make a big deal out of it”. I feel like the more episodes we saw, the more Oh started spinning out of control. Her I’ll handle it, felt more like a: I hope I can destract him from it, buy some time attempt.

The flashback made me feel the same as you, you apparently can’t even help a guy without said guy falling for you and then starts bothering you. Very disturbing to see.

Rak has told him many times already that he did not want to be with Oh. From the moment Rak said no to Oh in the bar it should have been clear enough. Hell Oh had to blackmail Rak to even come to his birthday party “if you come I’ll promise I won’t mess with you anymore and will not make you uncomfortable”. So clearly Oh did pick up on the fact that Rak was uncomfortable but still kept doing it. Maybe it was the first time Rak said with clear words that he did not want Oh, but seeing that a guy is uncomfortable around you, is a pretty clear signal somebody doesn’t want to be with you.

All lot of people had/have shitty parents but they do not turn out like Oh. They do not try to get somebody drunk to the point said person cannot say no anymore, or isn’t conscious enough to say no. They do not SA somebody, and force somebody like that way into a relationship. They also don’t go and try to get a bar out of business, just because the guy I like his boyfriend owns the bar.

It’s his total behavior that’s not nice.

Some people need to know the difference between childish and somebody who is just a happy bundle of energy. That last one is Gun, the first one is Ter from Forever You! Gun is a very positive guy who likes to be positive and happy towards others, but he gets when he needs to stop and be serious.

Sometimes it’s exactly such a person who can tear down walls from people who have endured stuff, because energy wise you pick up that such a person doesn’t have a mean bone in their body! Those people are also the easiest to trust, they tend to be themselves, they don’t hide behind masks.

Gun isn’t scared of by Yotha’s stiff cold persona, I think he very quickly saw what was under that image Yotha is trying to put forward to the world.

Some say it’s to quick, yeah maybe but things like somebody being insisting on taking care of you, while you have been so used to taking care of yourself. Somebody being overly concerned about being a burden to you, somebody caring enough to ask you if you will be alright. Those are all things that leave lasting impressions on a person.

As for the comments I see about Santa playing this role, for those who don’t like it and are overly critical about him, my advice would be, stop watching, you are not forced to watch! I was excited for this series the moment I heard Perth and Santa were going to be in it. They showed these past two episodes that they have good chemistry and are fun to watch. Also it’s not Santa his fault that the director likes to put these audio sounds under the scenes. That being said I loved the last two episodes.

And lastly: can we quit comparing actors with each other, if it’s Santa and Dunk or ForceBook and PerthSanta. They all have a different style of acting they are good in, one is not necessarily better then the other! It’s all subjective to our opinions, what you might like another does not like!!

yes, we had the first couple Book/Arm and Force/Arc. They had 8 episodes, from 9 we have a new couple Perth/Yotha and Santa/Gun. You did get in ep 10 a small scene with ArcArm but that was one scene. This series contains 24 episodes with 3 main couples, every couple of supposed to have 8 episodes.

This all the way!

I mean Fadel said it himself in episode 5 (?), his trust in Style is like 80% (which is probably still exaggerated). I have double feelings about Style and what he did. I just think that with Style and Fadel they had more shared vulnerable moments and conversations, that is something that creates a bond. Where as Kant was very mission focused and was very aware of himself to not fall in love with Bison, even if he did fall for Bison. They had more fun moments, less vulnerable moments. I think Style was more himself around Fadel, that’s why I think Fadel will eventually forgive Style.

I said this 2 episodes back here on MDL. That I didn’t think that both couples would get a happy ending. I could see Fadel forgiving Style at some point and moving on from it together. Bison is the more unpredictable character, I see him holding a grudge, staying mad and not being able to trust Kant again.

Taiwanese BL series don’t have many NC scenes, but when they do it, they do them justice. I found the nc scene in Unknown also beautiful and breathtaking, same with the shower scene.

I also think the conversation in hospital between Shao Peng and Zi Xiang did help him. Zi saw trough him and scolded him for it, and later when they were on the hospital bed next to Shao Pengs mother, Zi was very honest to Shao that he could be vulnerable and weak with him and didn’t think otherwise about him. Sometimes a partner who speaks out about your securities and still loves you despite of them, is what you need to move passed then.

I have more of a feeling that the Captain is never going to erase Kant his records, Kant has already done multiple jobs for the Captain, and still he hasn’t erased or cleaned them. It’s very handy to have a guy who wants to do (almost) everything for you, just threaten him with jail time and he complies. Instead of losing money to hire someone, you have a free help.

New Years is probably the reason for it

Alx, Louder please!

I agree with everything you wrote. Hill and Ter their storyline could have been told in 5 or 6 episodes, the constant back and forth between them was boring. The amount of times they tell each other they like each other, fallen for each other, kiss, hug, hold hands etc without doing anything about it was ridiculous. Like why did it take 12 episodes for them to finally get together. And even if Pond and Earth had more chemistry, more of a click I still would have wanted to see more of Johan and North (if we really only get 2 couples per season)

That was the same thing I was thinking. They ruined this series with the story of Hill and Ter, I’m sorry to say. Like we are on episode 13 and we are still getting flashbacks from them etc. A bit more then an hour episode and we still only got 35 min of JohanNorth and a few extra scenes for other characters. We only have 3 episodes left, if those go like ep 13 then we are going to get a very rushed Johan and North storyline. Why didn’t the director did it like We Are of Perfect 10 Liners. 4 couples could have easily fit 16 episodes, We are had I believe 5 couples, the same amount of episodes and the episodes were 10 minutes shorter.

Yeah I feel the same, like I said, my friendship would have been over. I personally wouldn’t give a rats ass anymore if your cover would have been blown if I stopped. Because I would be the one blowing your cover, If I was Style I would have gone straight to Fadel and told him everything. If my best friend is treating me like that, I don’t need enemies. But honestly I don’t like backstabbing, lying and manipulative people, and especially not if that is supposed to be my best friend.

Maybe it’s harsh but Kant did not for a minute think about what could/would have happened to Style if Fadel found out, if you have that little disregard for the friend or friendship, I can’t help you!

From the first episode I felt like Kant and Bison weren’t going to end of together, my thought was if Bison finds out about it, the relationship (of that even was it) was going to be over. Even if Kant started to have feelings for Bison, the whole thing started with lies and omissions. Bison is going to have such a hard time trusting Kant again (if ever). And I for one didn’t really feel like there were a lot of vulnerable moments between them. Sure they had fun, but I constantly wondered if that fun was just another tactic of Kant to get closer towards Bison.

For Style and Fadel it started out as Fadel being annoyed with Style and Style finding him intrigued. Sure Style did some questionable things trying to get close to Fadel (visiting the support grief group). But at some point they both start to lower their walls and be vulnerable with each other. Fadel talking about his parents, Style about his mother and how his dad took him coming out. They have a much more relatable and (somewhat) stable relationship, theirs I see actually ending happy.

But I also wouldn’t be suprised if Bison and Fadel moved on together to somewhere else.

For me I think it didn’t help that Kant went on a very manipulative and guilt tripping rant over how he would end up in jail when Style said he wanted to quit. I think it’s an impossible choice to make for Style choosing between the guy he is falling head over heels in love with or the friend. I think maybe Style had hoped it wouldn’t be true or that the guys had good reasons for it. Fadel had shown him slowly to be a decent guy.

My choice would have been bit easier. But I don’t like the fact that Kant knew who Fadel and Bison were when he asked Style to seduce Fadel. If I had found out my friend send me to seduce a hitmen who is very trigger happy, who I did start to fall in love with, I think my friendship would have been over. You do not send your friend into such a dangerous situation, it’s one thing for you to do it for some alternative reason. It’s a whole other reason to involve me. But that’s me now saying it, I’m not in the situation I do not have any idea how I really would have responded.

Agreed. I think Fadel would forgive Style a lot faster then Bison would Kant. Style didn’t know anything when he started pursuing Fadel, yeah he might have done it for the car (which I don’t think so), but he did not expect to fall head over heels in love with Fadel.

I stopped watching this series after episode 2, for some reason. I think at that time there were series airing that held my attention more.

The last day I have been binge watching this series until the latest episode. I was looking forward too this series after the trailer dropped. Currently the only reason I’m still watching is for JohanNorth.

I’m kind of tired of seeing Earth for the umpteenth time in a school BL. Somehow they constantly cast him as a kind of damsel in destress, clueless boy who seems to be in desperate need for a mature guy who will help with everything. Don’t get me wrong I do like Earth, I liked him in UWMA and in my only 12%. But that seem to have been two roles where he either plays a mature, serious guy, or he grows up to be a mature guy.

As for the characters. Hill and Ter have just way too many miscommunications throughout the series. Like how many times are they going to confess their feelings, hold hands, hug and kiss before one of them is actually going to ask some questions. The constant back and forth is doing my head in. North asked Ter at some point well are you two together. Ter’s response is well Hill didn’t say anything about that. Do you not have a mouth Ter? Can’t you ask the question, hey what are we? What are we waiting for? So it has taken up to 12 episodes back and forth going’s between them to then finally have the “will you be my boyfriend” question.

About the friendship between Hill and Ter I have much to say. Namely that Ter is not such a good friend to North, he is nagging, nosy, annoying and pushy. He finds his “ship” more important than his friend boundaries, privacy and feelings.

North has said multiple times that he isn’t comfortable telling something to Ter. But Ter does not stop asking and pushing to get the answers or information from North. When Johan texts North, Ter somehow tries to get a peak of said texts too. There are moments I feel like North is more in an interrogation which are let by Ter instead of having a conversation between friends. You especially could notice this difference when North was talking with Daotong, who lets North take his time, doesn’t push, doesn’t nag. Just lets North talk when he’s ready.

And Ter doesn’t stop asking, it’s during school time, when they are at work or when they are together in the dorm. Like step a big step back and give the boy some room to breath! He will tell you when he’s ready! Stop wirh the nagging, the snooping and mind you business! Sorry I just am so disappointed with their friendship, it’s one person trying to have a friendship and another person just is overly nosy, pushy and nagging.

Sadly the relationship between North and Johan have been put on the back burner throughout this series. The constant back and forth between Hill/Ter is making it that Johan and North can barely progress. Besides some moments that Johan picks North up from school to go to work, there are hardly any interactions between them. Thankfully North does get saved by Johan and that seems to be the starting point of them getting closer together. Honestly between the constant back and forth of HillTer, Johan and North feel like a breath of fresh air.

Sorry for the long review, I got irritated and frustrated a lot by Ter and North’s friendship.