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He lied multiple times. Either you don't know or just turning a blind eye.

'Innocent until proven guilty' - I've heard of this a million times already.
I wonder if you really believe in that or it's just a convenient thing to believe in right now because he's someone you adore.

With regard to evidence, KSR's family provided photos that were even confirmed real by KSH. These 2016 text messages were also verified by forensics. There are also those 2018 videos and photos of KSR and KSH together. Meanwhile, KSH can't even present a single verified evidence refuting anything, instead he even got caught lying multiple times. Even detectives would doubt his innocence if he kept on lying and and not even presenting anything verified to refute the accusation.

This is obviously not a court trial, and we are not handing down conviction. So it's up to you to judge on your own. You can sit around and wait for more damning proofs. But we also have our assessments and we decide to speak out based on present proofs and some common sense.

If you want to condemn people who judge without proper proof, then I suggest you take a look at KSH's fans; they got everything you want to believe no matter how dumb their arguments are. Hey, they even say that KSR died on Feb 15. Hahaha. They even know better than the coroner. 🤣

Oh, please.
Firstly, this issue came out after she died. How could people speak out on an issue that's not even known yet?
Second, this might not help KSR since she's already gone, but this issue being on the spotlight right now helps raise awareness that this thing is happening more often than we think and people should take concrete action.

You're also operating on the assumption that KSH is innocent even after he lied multiple times and with all the verified evidence pointing to him dating a minor and grooming her.
Don't you think it's foolish to believe a liar? Even detectives would presume an accused is guilty if he is caught lying over and over again.
You preach about this bullying culture, but have you also preached the same thing to KSH's fans who are more vicious in their bullying that they got KSR's blood on their hands?

Oh, you're so wrong. Don't even compare KSH's case to Sulli's and KSR's. KSH is the perpetrator while the girls were victims. Those are totally different cases. It was even KSH's fans who trashed Sulli.

In case you don't know, it's not only the aunt speaking out, it's mainly the parents now who are exposing him. This fact you don't even know. You go on preaching about being critical with info, yet you're not even trying to know the info from KSR's side.

Public figures know that people hold them to strict moral standard. Regular folks look up to them to set examples of decency and morality. Yet, you fans are willing to tolerate his perversion. Think about what example he's gonna set for people who idolize him. Ahh, please think.

If you don't want to judge, then nobody is stopping you. Oops, but then you judged her parents and aunt as well. So, stop the hypocrisy.
We judge him, alright, but not out of whim but out of the evidence and common sense.
Take a look at KSH's fans and you will see examples of judging based on fake news and blind fanaticism.

Girl, you were accusing her parents. Read your earlier comments.

About your request for this matter to be in court and people to leave him alone, I guess you're either too naive or just pretending to be. It's not only court who can pass judgement. Even you, yourself, judge people.

You argue that he is celebrity that's why we are targeting him and not as vocal towards other perpetrators. True, it's just natural, isn't it, for people to talk more about famous people than unknown folks? That's not even something to argue about. It's natural.
Besides, this issue being on the spotlight right now and being talked about by many people is a good thing; it raises awareness that this happen more often than we think and that it should not be acceptable.

You're contradicting yourself now. You saying we can't judge based on what the media say but you, yourself, are accusing the parents without proper proof.

We have no way of knowing everything. We can only judge based on whatever is presented to us. This is true in everything in life. Still, we have the ability to judge in spite of unknowns and uncertainties, and more importantly, to speak out and take concrete action.

So you want us to stop saying anything against KSH, but you are not doing anything against all his fans who still bully KSR until now?
My friend, you must know that this accusation against him is not without verified evidence. Even the photos were confirmed by KSH. The documents demanding KSR to pay immediately were authentic. These messages between KSR and KSH were verified by forensics.
You say lies and guesses. Truth is it's KSH who has been proven to be lying over and over again.

Exactly. These defenders just gotta do anything for KSH, even abandoning reason and logic, while KSH does not even give a damn about them.

I get what you mean. You want 'actual' proof, probably a video or photo of them having s*x when she was a minor. Guess what, you don't always need a video or a photo of a murder happening to prove a murder. In fact, a murder conviction can be handed even without the body.
There are verified evidence which you are claiming to be fake based on unverified articles. Do you see the problem in that?
You dismiss verified evidence from KSR's side yet you easily believe unverified statements from KSH's side and you even believe his proven and blatant lies.

If the parents really wanted money, they should have gone straight to KSH and surrendered every piece of anything that could tarnish his image in exchange for money.

KSH's agency was also trying to reach out to them but did not give in. I am pretty sure they are also being harassed by his fans. If this were about money, they could have just easily bailed with whatever the agency had on the table.

You're not thinking he has not lied a thing, are you? He may have not acknowledged the relationship because of his ongoing drama, but he kept pushing that lie even long after the show ended. In fact, it was only when he was cornered that he admitted to it -- almost a year after the show ended. Then, he lied again about not having gone to KSR's house ever, but when he got cornered again, he decided to sue for whatever sexual-something case, which is of course, an admission that it was him in her house. Then his lie of not having dated KSR when she was a minor, when there are verified evidence of his talking intimate with her.
There may not be actual video of them having s*x, but you know that circumstantial evidence, behavioral patterns, testimonies can make a compelling case and can even prove his guilt.

Can you please share a reliable link? As far as I know, the family only wanted KSH to apologize.
If the family wanted money, they would have just gone straight to KSH and demanded money and surrendered every possible evidence that could tarnish his image.
The debt was already settled, unless KSH's agency was telling lies again.
You are spreading fake news.
You preach about not judging based on what we read online, but you are also judging the parents based on some unverified articles.

A celebrity can be a criminal.
KSH has every chance to prove his innocence; nobody is stopping him. But the problem is he keeps on lying. He is making it even more difficult for people to believe him. Don't you also think it's foolish to believe a liar?
We are not judging him out of whim, but out of common sense. Even detectives would presume someone is guilty if he is caught lying over and over again.

I guess I understand what you mean.
But we are not fighting for one man. Sorry, it's not the issue. This is also not about fans and anti-fans. If you followed this issue closely, I think you could understand our sentiments and stand on this matter.

I am much less interested in your words as well.
He has lied over and over again -- that is a proven fact.
You must now that it is foolish to believe a liar.

You're calling out cyberbullying against KSH, but not cyberbullying against KSR is pure hypocrisy -- that's another fact.

Sadly, to have a decent debate with blind followers is a wishful thinking. You know that fanatics are hard to reason with. They believe even his lies and fake tears.
It's hard to just stay silent while his fans glorify a narcissist liar and viciously attacks KSR and anyone who makes a case against him.

You know KSH's fans are more vicious in their bullying. In fact, they already got blood on their hands. Have you also asked them to stop? I bet you haven't. So spare us your preaching.

First four eps were excellent.
As for the remaining episodes, I just couldn't help but shake my head and wonder what heights this drama could have achieved if the thrill and unpredictability had been maintained.

Welcome to Waikiki season 1 -- really hilarious, pure comedy

Liar, narcissist, groomer