DLKDramaFan

Can we all start respectfully reporting to the moderators to please prevent people from rating episodes that haven't even come out yet? If you look at the ratings on all aired episodes, they are deservedly very high, but the unaired episodes are so low. There shouldn't even be a way to rate unaired episodes. This show deserves much higher ratings than it's getting bc some are rating this w/o even watching it. I know it's an ongoing problem on MLD, but if we all band together and kindly let the moderators know, even offering respectfully helpful suggestions; hopefully they will be able to fix not being allowed to rate on any episodes before it airs eventually.

I like being able to vote for a show even while it's ongoing bc high ratings can help sleeper hits like this show, but I don't think it's right to be able to vote for a show or an episode before it even airs.

I think if we all report that to the moderators w/ your citing/evidence link, they will add her.

Can we all make edits to the writer section to add her? W/ enough reports, the moderators will add her, especially if we can cite some legitimate publications or shows citing her as the writer.

I love this show so much, Shin Hae Sun's magical run of well written & acted, heartwarming, funny, romantic dramas with loveable leads continues.

I agree with you in principal and wished they could have written a better scene with Ina stopping the slap herself at least instead of allowing her to get slapped & hair pulled to be saved by the men. I wish the leads could have gotten closer due to another reason.

On the other hand, I wouldn't call it self disrespect, humiliation or degradation bc it was something that happened w/in seconds and sometimes people are too shocked to respond initially. What is Ina supposed to do when the owner of the company's DIL and wife of her boss, who is sitting right next to her, hits her in front of him and everyone? No one expects such violence to occur in front of so many witnesses and in an environment that's usually safe and professional. It's better to let the psycho show her true colors in front of everyone and get money from them, have it logged and witnessed. Victims are not the ones who humiliated themselves or are degraded for being victimized. We need to put that on the abusers, not the victims. The onus is that the abusers aren't violent a-holes, not that the victims should have done a better job of defending themselves from being sucker slapped or attacked.

What if Ina had hit her back? Sometimes escalating violence or a volatile situation can result in unintended consequences that makes things even worse for ourselves. The entire thing started & ended in seconds, not enough time for most people to even process what the heck happened if they're not professional fighters. I agree if it was life and death and there was no one to save her then she should fight for her life, however she didn't need to do that bc the witnesses immediately stopped the attack and the one who in the end lost the most from that incident was the violent wife. The wife's ugly violent, cheating character was publicly exposed, NDA or no NDA, people will spread that info.

I didn't like that Ina had to say at the end that a bigger paycheck would make up for it instead of the SML already offering her that compensation. I hope she gets it. I'm torn bc I didn't like that scene but I don't know how else that scene could have been written bc the rest of the episode progressed directly based on that scene. The ML & FL wouldn't have had all the subsequent bonding scenes w/o that horrible incident. At the same time I agree it's very upsetting to watch and I don't like any scene with violence against innocent people, especially women or children or anyone in a position of less power. I do wish that we as a society more consistently put the blame and responsibility on the abusers and criminals to not be violent and abusive instead of the victims for being victimized or not handling it better.

Sadly I think the cover up is by powerful & rich people who are involved. I feel so sorry that these Chinese actors and celebrities are abused and murdered without ever getting justice bc that tells you that the regular people are treated even worse in a totalitarian or corrupt government. Putting money over human decency is the root of so much evil. Until the Chinese government feels the economic sting of abusing its own people, they won't stop as long as other countries and companies like Netflix keep doing business with them and look the other way. It's disgusting if it's true that Netflix removed his name from Eternal Love. Why erase the victim to help the victimizers except money over decency? We have to also vote and make change in who we buy from or give money to in terms of businesses and governments since that is the only way to get changes these days.

I wonder if a lot of those are from AI astroturfing (where celebrities & rich people pay public relations companies to sway the public by creating fake online accounts to pretend to be regular people pushing their agendas. Especially defending their criminal behavior in the court of public opinions.

I wonder in this show if she was hired first and in contract then they hired him. She's a great and talented actress but I don't think she's a top actress in terms of making top money or has say in hiring other actors on her show. Even her agency is not one of the big ones. Or that maybe she didn't know the full story bc in heavily misogynistic Korea he and his agency were able to suppress a lot of information about what truly happened and the court ultimately agreed with him in the end despite his own admissions just bc it wasn't violent or violent enough according to the court that made the final decision.

Maybe instead of holding actresses or lesser powered actors responsible for the male lead's behavior, which unfortunately is part of the misogyny & toxic power dynamic, why don't we hold the actual actor and the companies like Netflix (Squid 2 was why all this resurfaced again), the producers, the studios who have the ultimate power for hiring them accountable? Go after the actual people with the power of hiring him.

Here's some additional facts re the case for those who were as unfamiliar and confused about what happened as I was. This recently written article I just found made the time line and what happened more clear. Which only adds to the mess & toxicity of this show. I already wrote a review of how toxic this show was before learning about what actually happened from this article. It's always so tragic when the victim is victimized by the legal system even worse. The victim's story makes me think of what mental health experts say that it's not a single trauma alone that causes PTSD or other mental illnesses. It's the amount of traumas and the duration as well as the reaction or lack of support to the victims that causes what is called complex trauma that can also lead to physical illnesses & diseases as well. Let's hope that the victim is getting all the help and support possible in her personal life to overcome what happened to her. https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/this-show-is-full-of-problems-squid-game-2-fans-furious-at-actor-amid-trailer-release/ar-AA1qUxEh

Strangely enough, this was one of the parts of the plot that the writer did cover. Eun Ho was in radio at the beg of the present timeline in the series. She refused to appear on camera or take a job during the time that interfered w/ her parking attendant job bc of not wanting her double life to be discovered originally consciously then later unconsciously. That was why her boss creamed at her and was so confused as to why she didn't want such a great promotional opportunity in the 1st ep to do the on camera afternoon show. It was bc it was both on camera & at the time that would have interfered w/ her other life.

Eun Ho was actually consciously at first pretending to be Hyeri at the other station's parking lot. Then her personalities really did split and EH was no longer aware of Hyeri & vice versa. EH allowed herself to be bullied into taking the on camera job in the first ep bc she lost touch with other personality and didn't remember any more about her second life. She did get discovered pretty quickly after going on camera. The confusing time jumps and other numerous plotholes were what made this show such a missed opportunity. In the hands of a good or non toxic writer or director, this really could have been a warm hearted healing drama. Just switching the ML's personality and storyline w/ the SML even would have made this show a hit. If the endgame had been the SML and even EH integrating Hyeri would have been a much better storyline.

Unfortunately often the leads are not given the entire series to read bc it hasn't been written yet. They often only see the first four episodes, the rest they have to trust will turn out as good. I think she like us was fooled into believing the healing concept of this show & didn't realize until too late that the writer & directors do not have the capacity or will to follow through on their promises from the earlier scripts or had very toxic and ignorant views of love and mental illness.

I'm doing something that I've never done before and hope to never do again. Give warning trigger alerts to a Shin Hae Sun show that was advertised as a healing comfort romantic show in my review. I started to love her because some of her other shows have some of the most heartwarming and sweet love stories ever. However, I need to do a public service announcement for those thinking they are getting a comfort show about healing and romance as this show claimed in advertisements. I suggest watching her other shows that are also in my reviews for comfort and sweet romance. https://mydramalist.com/profile/DLKDramaFan/reviews

Congratulations to the Mr. Queen cast for their 2021, 57th Baeksang Awards nominations (S. Korea’s Emmy & Oscar):

1. Shin Hye Sun - best TV actress for Mr. Queen & best new film actress for Innocence
2. Cha Chung Hwa - best supporting TV actress for Mr. Queen
3. Na In Woo - best new TV actor for River Where the Moon Rises
4. Bae Jong Ok - best supporting film actress for Innocence. Pretty cool that Mama & grand queen dowager were mother & daughter in a film in the same year and both got nominated for that film as well as that film doing really well and was number one in box office in Korea.

You can see all nominations in English if opened in Chrome. https://www.baeksangawards.co.kr/candidate

I was really depressed over the utter insanity & injustice of some ignorant Knets going after SHS, an innocent actress of a totally different show than the one they were upset about (Joseon Exorcist). I’m glad that sanity and common sense won out and after the crazy zombie like attacks on an innocent and super talented actress, more logical Knets, reporters, producers and industry insiders see her “innocence “ and have since written articles defending her, offered her a movie lead role in a popular franchise, and just today she received TWO Baeksang award nominations ( the equivalent of the Oscars & Emmys of S. Korea). Let’s send out positive energies and hope she wins best actress in a drama for Mr. Queen and best new actress for her movie “Innocence.” She’s too good both as an actor and person to be kept down by a bunch of zombie like lunatics who let mob mentality take over basic decency and common sense. You can read in English if opened in Chrome https://www.baeksangawards.co.kr/candidate.

Though it was unfortunate that even SK cable TV is so conservative & gave us the ending that they did. I braced myself for this & even made a discussion thread on it. Thanks to everyone who gave their interesting perspectives. I still think there were many wonderful things that still came from this show and let me count the ways:

1. During a time of great worldwide stress, this show gave us (at least for sure me) 90% joy and laughter

2. This hit show will launch Shin Hye Sun & Kim Jun Hyun from just great talented actors to A list ones who can be trusted to lead future hit movies & dramas. Both have several hits under their belts already.

3. What an amazing year for Shin Hye Sun, a top 5 movie & a top 10 cable show of all time.

4. The final episode’s ratings were in the 20s! So rare nowadays w so much competition for a big network never mind a cable network. I’m so glad all that amazing and talented acting and hard work was rewarded. Please support our favorite shows and actors by reading articles & watching their shows in official websites so the crew & actors who worked so hard can be properly acknowledged and rewarded. Please try to post actual links to the copyright holders and original content makers so they get the proper viewership numbers so their hard work are properly rewarded. Think how bad you would feel if someone else got paid or rewarded for your hard work? Yes, I know there’s irony there due to ending but we can give justice in real life to our wonderful Mr. Queen team.

5. I discovered how amazing an actor Na In U is (let’s not punish a great actor for portraying his character well) and now look forward to him hopefully soon becoming the lead because he has both the talents and visual of a lead.

6. Though not perfect and could have been more, I am so grateful it was not less. Thank goodness it was not the tragic mess of endings that was Scarlet Heart Ryeo and Go Princess Go. Though we didn’t get it in the exact way many of us wanted, we did get what we want - the good guys & bad guys all got what they deserved. That is way more than what most shows deliver these days bc too many shows prefer to be edgy and cynical rather than hopeful and endearing. I’m glad that a hopeful and endearing show became such a huge hit and more hopeful positive shows can follow.

Happy Valentjne’s Day and I hope we can all still support this wonderful team in its prequel Bamboo Forest. Maybe it can give explanations that can soothe some upset feelings as well.

I discovered Shin Hye Sun in Five Enough & was obsessed with them on & offscreen. Their chemistry on Happy Together was even stronger than in the show in some ways and the entire cast teased them mercilessly about it.

I’m in shock at how many are siding with the attempted murderer and would’ve been actual murderer of an unarmed woman if not for the one they dislike and unabashed cheater who loves another. I didn’t think this was even a competition or option. When he openly chose the other after personally trying to kill her, I def jumped allegiance. He wasn’t this terrible & it didn’t go on this long in Go Princess Go bc I definitely rooted for him in that show. He def has a lot to make up for still in this show and we’ll see if he deserves her in the end.

I love this show overall. I don’t agree that DB is too self pitying, she’s actually too hard on herself and allows too much abuse from others. Howver, I do agree that I too get utterly fed up with some GHJ characters that she allows too many of her characters to be literally slapped and figuratively kicked around too much without any fight back. 2-3 of her shows have had amazing messages and life lessons - even if it’s what not to do seeing how her character behaves. I’ve learned to just ff those moments. I love her as an actress and have watched most of her dramas but that is a major frustrating flaw in too many of her shows .

There’s no spoiler in your comment and it deserves to be seen by more ppl so pls unspoil so more ppl can see it.

Having said that I’m TeamYongShik, my heart literally hurts for Jong Ryul. I know how he’s treated and is still treating Dong Baek badly and I should only feel anger toward him. Yet I disagree with people who say that he only feels pity toward DB. Clearly she was the love of his life and still is. He looked so happy in those flashbacks, he constantly talks about her to his friends and hardly mentions his wife, he had that terrible incident during a baseball game (hence the nickname) on the day that they seem to hint that she left him. He searched all over for her, despite his harsh words and behavior he is trying to make it up to DB now to take care of her and his son. JR said how much he misses DB. Normally I would never condone cheating but his “wife” is clearly committing fraud and possibly polygamy as latest ep hinted, she’s a horrible person with no redeeming qualities. The reason my heart hurts so much for him is that despite his fortune & fame and surface level success like being a famous athlete and having a beautiful wife, he was cursed with messed up values and poor communication skills. Instead of valuing DBs kindness and loving treatment of him and how happy she made him, he thought having the right parentage mattered more and her humble background would embarrass him. He had to learn the hard way that shallow measures of success or what supposedly will make a good mate do not bring happiness.

Yong Shik on the other hand is blessed with knowing right away what a gem DB is despite Korean society’s or small town shallow views that she’s not good enough due to things they should have been empathizing with her over instead of judging her for. Finding true love is not the greatest blessing, it’s the ability to recognize & value it when it comes to you and having the skills to make it work and last are the greatest blessings.

Unfortunately JR doesn’t have those skills despite deep down being a good person and truly deeply still loves DB. He always has to regret saying the worst thing possible to her. I feel sorry for him because it’s not his intention or who he really is deep inside to do that, it’s just lack of essential relationship skills and awareness. He is a jerk to her but he truly didn’t mean to be and actually originally was trying to do the opposite. I hope in the end he learns those skills and finally express his love and caring in an effective way to both DB & his son so they can at least co parent together peacefully. Pil Gu deserves to have parents who get along and model treating each other well for him.

I’m firmly #TeamYongShik and think he’s one of the greatest romantic male leads ever written. He’s soft & squishy & hilarious at all the right times and firm and strong at all the right times. He’s protective of everyone, especially DB, and even protective of himself against Dong Baek when he feels hurt by her. I love multifaceted super kindhearted characters, male or female, who are also very strong and frank. Why does being kind mean you have to allow people to be mean to you or hurt your feelings without speaking up for yourself? I know easier said than done but when I see it done right like here with Yong Shik, I’m full of admiration and respect and sometimes even envy that I wish I had such a talented writer to write me such great lines & courage in such moments to say them.