all of this was utterly useless cuz ZXW punished the entire Meng family, like he said he would by taking away…
Okay How can I you explain it to you? Let's say you are a Lord of the state by imperial edict and there is a secret recipe on which your entire family wealth stands, then there were traitors in your city known as "Ge Family" and they did the insider Job, betraying your family leading to your father death and leaving 12-year-old you to inherit the throne. Every Butler is against you and trying to take advantage but your Stepbrother/senior sacrifices and returns home to stabilize the situation. You grow up under this environment, then Mu appears in your home and works hard as honest man but your old treacherous butler and his daughter got them accused of fake TREASON......his daughter uses fake sex claim to force your senior to marry her.
You know Mu family is framed by Huo family and even their daughter is straight up lying....then WOULDN'T KEEP EYES ON THAT TRAITOR FAMILY AND PLANT YOUR PEOPLE AROUND traitors in your home. Lets continue the "Ge Family" which has killed your father suddenly reappears and starting hosting assassination events at your banquets, you know there are two hostile and powerful butler of West (FL father) and South (Meng family) in house trying to take over......What will you as Lord of the state do?
of-course you will look at everything and trust no-one and especially, you will never trust liar daughter of a known traitor/criminal and you will try to gather as much information, as possible to found out the reasoning behind the assassination. That's the ZXW point of view, if he as blind in love as HRZ, he can never manage his family business and he has already suffered enough for her. So what I am trying you to tell here, even under normal circumstances, that's his job to be controlling and meddle in affairs and every Lord is like this but in this case, assassins have become regular guest of his events and people within his own mansion are scheming left and right to monopolise power......He has no choice, HE has to act like this and he planted that maid around her in first episode, when he found out for first time, she is behaving wired.
So that's why he is controlling cuz he doesn't want her to something idiotic and almost every big things she has achieved in this life is by begging the Lord, say divorce, her brother justice, release of HRZ and whitewashing her family treason. but we have not seen FL treat with sincerity even once and hence that's why I want OPEN ENDING and ZXW should put her in same carriage, she used in dream to leave him and leave her at the same damnn farm ALONE ! I just want some sort of punishment for her behaviour towards ML, the first person she will always go to in trouble is ML but he is always the one, she will dump and then she go around acting MASSIAH !
all of this was utterly useless cuz ZXW punished the entire Meng family, like he said he would by taking away…
I have not seen today's episode so I can't comment about it and again He is Lord and she is hiding crime of the highest degree against his family, like inviting assassins with the help of Wu guy to stole the recipe. She went to him to cut deals, he didn't and let me tell you again, wait for episodes....He will willingly send her off to the South and not only that, he will even forgive HRZ for another crime...he will commit, your favourite murderer will try to commit another murder and this time. He will try to kill Lord himself. So he will not only let her go but also forgive her favourite murderer and personally drop the trash at South himself....like I said he would and that would be the end of it. He is not like FL....forcing people against their will and making false claims like losing virginity to force people to marry them....so calm down and watch tomorrow episode before accusing him of the crime , he didn't even have committed now. If that doesn't happen....then you can curse me here !
ZXW is right. At this point HQ is still selfishly choosing her own freedom and peace and afraid to accept ZXW’s…
Does anything extra-ordinary happen or its same old shit in this episode? (by same old shit, I mean her rejecting ZXW again for 5th time and Meng family losing their position)
@DNN66, In my view, ZXW is not an 'entreprenuerial/business' material, because ZXW backed out from the south business…
I think you are confusing somethings cuz all this business of the South and West still belong to Zhong family and are only managed by these Butlers. They sell Zhong family incense in these shops and get the cut of the profits by managing them and the shops in south were originally managed by Meng family and now he transferred them to ZLS.
I'm not HRZ fans but Hua RongZhou killed two bad people both tortured him and they deserve death .... Even though…
First I am telling How it was in ancient China? I don't even agree with modern punishment of traitors cuz 95% of people under them are usually following the direct order from superior and hence can be excused and punished lightly. but I would have not hated FL if she was asking for one excuse but as we can see its the combo of worst crimes in human history, which we have to excuse to justify her behaviour but the real reason for this comment was her JUDGMENT OF ML. He is the Lord of sate, its his Job to punish criminals and he just locked up a murderer, didn't send to executioner and did released him.....BUT She has been treating this like he has committed genocide. considering her the amount moral excuses her party needs, ML just locked him and released him and you are watching this comment. You didn't know why a lot of people like me get to this stage. There has been hordes of people going around and using Feminist and misogyny accusations and you are actually a lot better and put some blame on her.....people have called her "HERO and MASSIAH" and embodiment of FL empowerment here (exact words). The only thing she has done is use ML love against him and beg him for favours numerous times.....I am more concerned about people mindset here and according to their own words, She is FL we are with them, you are wrong !
This is a lot of hyperbole. I read your explanation 5 times so perhaps I am a member of the "brain dead" group…
I just regret making this comment cuz people had made it into Feminism fight and are bringing in misogyny card, while they are defending FL brother behaviour as NORMAL or minor ethics problem but in reality, there were rules of taking in concubines and only emperor/ Lords of state had power to issue imperial edict to make someone concubine without parents and person permission.
I'm not HRZ fans but Hua RongZhou killed two bad people both tortured him and they deserve death .... Even though…
Do you the concept of accomplice in crime? Its title given to those people who "knowingly hide a crime without any indication of physical harm to themselves in case of revealing it" and in these cases criminal is usually charged with first degree murder, while the accomplice is charged with second degree murder. FL is accomplice in these crimes cuz She didn't stopped her brother immediately knowing very well, HOW he picks woman off the streets and force them to be his concubines, proceed to have forced sex with them. She only did stopped when that bastard actions led to death. So she is accomplice in RAPE ! and for ancient LAW justification for Two murders, First HRZ was their slave and unfortunately by Tang/Sui/Han/Qing/Ming/Eu/American laws owner has every right to beat their slaves and even beat them to death but slaves standing up to their slaves is instant death sentence for HRZ. So Yamen will execute him immediately on this charge....I would never support his....but that's the reality our ancestors were trash people and did trash things. Now to the Modern Law points, running way part is Okay but setting a fire to building knowing very well, there are people inside is.....intention of Murder and that's the first degree charge right there. He knew there were people inside it but still lit it on fire and never contacted authorities. Second again Blacksmith had every right to beat the shit out of her slave (its wrong even writing this) and again in this case, HRZ is her runaway slave and She had every right to capture him back even by 19th century laws....he can't resist it but still he knew she is hurt, refused to report to authorities and run away (which he said happened but there is no witness or evidence to prove it happened this way, unlike first case). Thats another crime right there, So to modern Judge will first rule arson, intent to murder and then again first-degree charge cuz nobody can't prove otherwise. Hence serial murderer....remember Judges look at your criminal history too as for TRAITOR charge, knowing very well what her father did but still hide it from authorities with any harm to her life and hence she was accomplice, which by Modern Law is death sentence to both of them, along with servants that participated in it. and by ancient Chinese Law, ENTIRE ZHAO CLAN EXECUTION everywhere in the nation and there are countless examples of it.
all of this was utterly useless cuz ZXW punished the entire Meng family, like he said he would by taking away…
you are making things out of thin air, when you say he had no intention to let her go cuz for once he had never forced her and secondly, it has never happened in the show.
all of this was utterly useless cuz ZXW punished the entire Meng family, like he said he would by taking away…
I don't and in comment, you were mentioning someone else bring up the misogyny card and straight up told me, I hate woman, when in-fact. She was the one defending the FL brother sexual assaults and I was the one saying "NO" its bad. Secondly for leaving this drama, there is not a single good drama airing right now but I heard, there will be good releases next month and Bai Lu "Only for love" may release. So I am just putting up with this to kill time.
ZXW has upto this point never said "NO" to the FL request or forced her to do anything against her free will, HRZ is the one defying FL right now and talk back a lot. What you are saying "He will never send her back" has not happened yet and like I said, If he wants to force her, he can just write an edict now and FL is done for....we both know what happens when HRZ fights ZLS or other professionals, he loses in matter of seconds. So he won't be able to rescue her and her own father will happily force her to be ZXW concubine but he is not a character like this.....he is not like FL and will not make fake claims to force marry her. ZXW is stating facts when he said, FL father committed the crime and not her and he was speaking exactly to the plan, they agreed upon when he released HRZ.
I have not once bring up Feminist card, people are bringing it up and using it to accuse anybody that lists FL hypocrisy. Trust me when I tell you I don't want them together at all, the best ending would be her settling down with HRZ in the south and ML going his own way. The worst ending could be her getting away with her trash behaviour, abonnement and settling in with ML.....Bad ending for main couple is the best ending here.
I'm not HRZ fans but Hua RongZhou killed two bad people both tortured him and they deserve death .... Even though…
She is only leaking his crime against Mu family, while hiding him being traitor. Her father was working with Wu family to sponsor these assassination events trying to steal Zhou life-line their incense recipe and kill the Zhou family. including ZXW and ZLS (remember they did managed to nearly kill ZLS). He would then blame this on "Ge family" and take over entire Zhou family incense business or in simple words kill ML to become, Lord of the state with their recipe. She is hiding that from ML.....and I never said Meng Yefi didn't deserve death for killing FL brother and ML/ZXW aggress with her, that's why he removed Meng from position of power to pursue this crime.
and Where are you guys watching this?
Let's say you are a Lord of the state by imperial edict and there is a secret recipe on which your entire family wealth stands, then there were traitors in your city known as "Ge Family" and they did the insider Job, betraying your family leading to your father death and leaving 12-year-old you to inherit the throne.
Every Butler is against you and trying to take advantage but your Stepbrother/senior sacrifices and returns home to stabilize the situation. You grow up under this environment, then Mu appears in your home and works hard as honest man but your old treacherous butler and his daughter got them accused of fake TREASON......his daughter uses fake sex claim to force your senior to marry her.
You know Mu family is framed by Huo family and even their daughter is straight up lying....then WOULDN'T KEEP EYES ON THAT TRAITOR FAMILY AND PLANT YOUR PEOPLE AROUND traitors in your home.
Lets continue the "Ge Family" which has killed your father suddenly reappears and starting hosting assassination events at your banquets, you know there are two hostile and powerful butler of West (FL father) and South (Meng family) in house trying to take over......What will you as Lord of the state do?
of-course you will look at everything and trust no-one and especially, you will never trust liar daughter of a known traitor/criminal and you will try to gather as much information, as possible to found out the reasoning behind the assassination.
That's the ZXW point of view, if he as blind in love as HRZ, he can never manage his family business and he has already suffered enough for her.
So what I am trying you to tell here,
even under normal circumstances, that's his job to be controlling and meddle in affairs and every Lord is like this but in this case, assassins have become regular guest of his events and people within his own mansion are scheming left and right to monopolise power......He has no choice, HE has to act like this and he planted that maid around her in first episode, when he found out for first time, she is behaving wired.
So that's why he is controlling cuz he doesn't want her to something idiotic and almost every big things she has achieved in this life is by begging the Lord, say divorce, her brother justice, release of HRZ and whitewashing her family treason.
but we have not seen FL treat with sincerity even once and hence that's why I want OPEN ENDING and ZXW should put her in same carriage, she used in dream to leave him and leave her at the same damnn farm ALONE !
I just want some sort of punishment for her behaviour towards ML, the first person she will always go to in trouble is ML but he is always the one, she will dump and then she go around acting MASSIAH !
I don't have access to Chinese social media
So he will not only let her go but also forgive her favourite murderer and personally drop the trash at South himself....like I said he would and that would be the end of it.
He is not like FL....forcing people against their will and making false claims like losing virginity to force people to marry them....so calm down and watch tomorrow episode before accusing him of the crime , he didn't even have committed now.
If that doesn't happen....then you can curse me here !
(by same old shit, I mean her rejecting ZXW again for 5th time and Meng family losing their position)
Its the same
I don't even agree with modern punishment of traitors cuz 95% of people under them are usually following the direct order from superior and hence can be excused and punished lightly.
but I would have not hated FL if she was asking for one excuse but as we can see its the combo of worst crimes in human history, which we have to excuse to justify her behaviour but the real reason for this comment was her JUDGMENT OF ML.
He is the Lord of sate, its his Job to punish criminals and he just locked up a murderer, didn't send to executioner and did released him.....BUT She has been treating this like he has committed genocide.
considering her the amount moral excuses her party needs, ML just locked him and released him and you are watching this comment. You didn't know why a lot of people like me get to this stage.
There has been hordes of people going around and using Feminist and misogyny accusations and you are actually a lot better and put some blame on her.....people have called her "HERO and MASSIAH" and embodiment of FL empowerment here (exact words).
The only thing she has done is use ML love against him and beg him for favours numerous times.....I am more concerned about people mindset here and according to their own words, She is FL we are with them, you are wrong !
Its title given to those people who "knowingly hide a crime without any indication of physical harm to themselves in case of revealing it" and in these cases criminal is usually charged with first degree murder, while the accomplice is charged with second degree murder.
FL is accomplice in these crimes cuz She didn't stopped her brother immediately knowing very well, HOW he picks woman off the streets and force them to be his concubines, proceed to have forced sex with them. She only did stopped when that bastard actions led to death. So she is accomplice in RAPE !
and for ancient LAW justification for Two murders, First HRZ was their slave and unfortunately by Tang/Sui/Han/Qing/Ming/Eu/American laws owner has every right to beat their slaves and even beat them to death but slaves standing up to their slaves is instant death sentence for HRZ. So Yamen will execute him immediately on this charge....I would never support his....but that's the reality our ancestors were trash people and did trash things.
Now to the Modern Law points,
running way part is Okay but setting a fire to building knowing very well, there are people inside is.....intention of Murder and that's the first degree charge right there. He knew there were people inside it but still lit it on fire and never contacted authorities. Second again Blacksmith had every right to beat the shit out of her slave (its wrong even writing this) and again in this case, HRZ is her runaway slave and She had every right to capture him back even by 19th century laws....he can't resist it but still he knew she is hurt, refused to report to authorities and run away (which he said happened but there is no witness or evidence to prove it happened this way, unlike first case).
Thats another crime right there,
So to modern Judge will first rule arson, intent to murder and then again first-degree charge cuz nobody can't prove otherwise. Hence serial murderer....remember Judges look at your criminal history too
as for TRAITOR charge, knowing very well what her father did but still hide it from authorities with any harm to her life and hence she was accomplice, which by Modern Law is death sentence to both of them, along with servants that participated in it.
and by ancient Chinese Law, ENTIRE ZHAO CLAN EXECUTION everywhere in the nation and there are countless examples of it.
Secondly for leaving this drama, there is not a single good drama airing right now but I heard, there will be good releases next month and Bai Lu "Only for love" may release. So I am just putting up with this to kill time.
ZXW has upto this point never said "NO" to the FL request or forced her to do anything against her free will, HRZ is the one defying FL right now and talk back a lot. What you are saying "He will never send her back" has not happened yet and like I said,
If he wants to force her, he can just write an edict now and FL is done for....we both know what happens when HRZ fights ZLS or other professionals, he loses in matter of seconds. So he won't be able to rescue her and her own father will happily force her to be ZXW concubine but he is not a character like this.....he is not like FL and will not make fake claims to force marry her.
ZXW is stating facts when he said, FL father committed the crime and not her and he was speaking exactly to the plan, they agreed upon when he released HRZ.
I have not once bring up Feminist card, people are bringing it up and using it to accuse anybody that lists FL hypocrisy. Trust me when I tell you I don't want them together at all, the best ending would be her settling down with HRZ in the south and ML going his own way. The worst ending could be her getting away with her trash behaviour, abonnement and settling in with ML.....Bad ending for main couple is the best ending here.
He would then blame this on "Ge family" and take over entire Zhou family incense business or in simple words kill ML to become, Lord of the state with their recipe.
She is hiding that from ML.....and I never said Meng Yefi didn't deserve death for killing FL brother and ML/ZXW aggress with her, that's why he removed Meng from position of power to pursue this crime.