Looks like my nickname has really taken off with you guys lol. I’m glad everyone can use it as much as they…
They will but very big angst boat event is coming, and I don't even like FL that much but I hope they show full event and she won't get extreme hate for it. I am happy now have clearly shown change in FL attitude by getting rid of the longing looks !
Lol, todays episode was a shit show and ML reactions were like, When you negotiate a deal with car dealership for Toyota Carolla and they give you Lamborghini😂. After that imperial physicians were also high on some pre-historic cocaine, FL worryingly asked him about "What precautions she should take, while taking care of her chronically sick husband" and he told her "He is okay, You guys can still fuck" like man....😂😂😂😂 Emperor also chimed in and slapped his consort without much evidence !
To all Living Dildo sympathizers, today you saw a glimpse of SML love for LR in which he threatens her 24/7 and attempts to destroy her career and hurt's her brother and husband, to somehow force her to his bidding and live her life as he dictates, all in name of loving and caring for her. He is doing this and went to extreme limits cuz in his delusional mind, he knows her better than anyone and is doing her favour by controlling and manipulating her like he did in past life. While the hard truth to swallow is, he never loved her in any lifetime, he loves to control and manipulate/hurt her and most importantly he loves the power that comes by controlling elder princess. She doesn't have right to think and live otherwise and if she does it will force him to harm and kill her like he did in previous life, such is his love for LR !
Looks like my nickname has really taken off with you guys lol. I’m glad everyone can use it as much as they…
See Today you saw glimpse of SML love for LR in which he threatens her 24/7 and hurt her brother her husband to force her to his bidding and live her life as he dictates !
Lol, No she played the qin today to stop any semblance of marriage alliance forming between Consort Ru and Su…
He was female lead sex-toy/boy toy in previous life but in this life, he isn't castrated yet. So he will be called "Living Vibrator" when dealing his previous life and Living Dildo, when dealing with his current life. "To be honest, I don't think the show is doing such a great job glorifying SRQ...he's just coming across as a sad plot device to add tension to the main couple, and I suppose, a convenient villain." That's cuz actor playing the role is very weak and I am quiet disappointed with his portrayal so far, his role had a lot power and complexity behind it but he fumbled at multiple places like "internal struggle between his obsession with FL and need to save his family is not displayed properly", he lacks the acting/emotional range to use micro expression with slight change in his tone and voice to deliver the change in his internal emotional change or battle. You better believe if this role was played Jeremy Tusai or Liu Xue Yi, the comment section would be completely different and our sympathizes will be far and wide with SQR. His role had such a power and depth LXY would have overpowered, outmatched and outclassed ML to such a extent...show would putting in ML scenes again and again to glorify him and save him from onslaught.
She loved ML in both lives. There was too much water under the bridge, they drifted too far apart. Li Rong could…
I tend to disagree and contrary to popular belief, the feeling of "Love and Hate" are very close to each other. FL actually loved ML a lot in her previous life, to the point of complete obsession and he wanted to help the local people but she immediately stood with Nobel families to fight him. Then for 20 years as we are told in novel, they fought way too much and she spent majority of her time thinking about him. In the start SML didn't egged her on to support nobel houses, she did it out of her volition to fight him. FL was also seen mentioning in the drama/novel, that SQR will always bow his head and listen to her commands but it was only ML, who had the guts to fight him and hence in her mind he was always one step above her.
"I think after living and doing sex, eating ( he used to make and feed her from his hands), playing and sharing sorrow and happiness together for so long like nearly half their life it's genuine to get feelings it's not like LR was a robot without any emotions and would spend her rest of the weeping from the love she had for PWX after getting seperated ,she was a prideful princess. Now LR is most probably ashamed to acknowledge those feelings infront of PWX after knowing his real feelings "
This was not the case for multiple reasons, first if she actually loved SML. She would have let go of her obsession and his loved would have fixed the knot in her heart and there was no need for her to cry at ML death or during the boat sex scene say to herself, I chased these feelings (he made her cum with this technique, EXTREME DISS AT SQR being castrated and his techniques) for 20 years but never was able to get it and here he is again, giving me those same feelings again and due to his 1 year of experience better than his old self. So, I am not saying there was nothing but there was a strong sense of closeness and friendship/likeness there but her description of him was nothing more than a "Slave/friend" in her mind, whom she can bend at will and for ML it was different, as something out of her hand. She wanted to possess, She even said it herself in drama/novel. When they saw fireworks that "Love and hate" are very close to each other ! Then we have further confirmation of it, when Shangguan Ya and SQR described FL, she is a person who is afraid of love, more she loved more she will be afraid and close her heart to supress the feelings cuz she has been taught from young age that feeling are weakness. I don't know why are we having this conversation cuz SQR admitted it himself before his fake death to ML, SHE ALWAYS LOVED HIM MORE THAN HIM AND ANYTHING ELSE ! He knew it and hence worked hard to change it and open knot in her heart,
The problem with FL character is her Ego, reluctance to accept her fault (princess syndrome), superiority complex and her foul mouth....These things combined had hurt her more than anything else in the world and her foul mouth and capability to hurt, forces other character to take drastic steps, which she is immediately get hurt by and gets even more angry, than her ego steps in and she refuses to acknowledge her wrongdoing, bow the head or stand down. Now you may have notice she only acts like this in front of ML and with SML and other people, she don't give a Fuck about and is all proper and follows etiquette and its cuz she doesn't care about their motives or their responses at all. With ML its different and she shows her true heart with ability to get hurt. Lastly, I remember she told ML in previous life. That you can spend 10 years of your alone as celebal/monk but I can't deal with loneliness and need someone to spend life with, I know you love her but I can't deal with divided love.
So trust me, when I tell you I am not FL fan and kinda hate her character and sympathize greatly with ML but in this case, FL actually loved that man alot in both lives. As much as I hate it, its true !
thank you! that makes so much more sense! I was watching that and felt like it was so random. The way the scene…
Yep according to people, some producer loved the character of SQR and we are suffering its consequences. I am not fan of this person acting and quite frankly, h has failed miserably at it. He is no Jeremy Tusai or Liu Xue Yi, and Jeremy have retired but Liu Xue Yi would have rocked in that role !
What is the truth about that? Because I thought they were going to show that in today's episode but they didn't.
in novel it wasn't clear but that's my guess. She wanted to remove any chance of her son ancestry getting leaked and his future ruined, we know for a fact she is heartless woman. So, who knows !
What is the truth about that? Because I thought they were going to show that in today's episode but they didn't.
They need to guard ML life first cuz who knows, he may attempt to assassinate him second time and they just need to be patient cuz due to his actions. Sooner or later, he will create big ass and drag other nobel families with him into it.
All good points, but I think it needs to be weighed against the difficulty of a) translating a rather strongly-interior…
Good points, some of these were straight discussions like explanation behind ML choice of instrument and music was done by the minister of rites but they completely removed it. Secondly its actually not that difficult, FL worryingly looking at his Emperor, her sister face and then SQR would have gotten the point across (she is looking up for crown price) but today FL acting slummed and she is relatively young. "Coming up with a background character to bestow "advice" or an "idea" gets us to the character-decides-on-plan without twisting visual media into knots trying to relay a character's interiority." but it takes away from the complexity of his character and fails to convey his mental state of the mind, You are right about actor being mediocre cuz I am also not fan of his acting. He didn't portray the internal struggle going on between him properly and his longing for FL to political intruges....man has a lot of ground to improve upon. I am just saying, if they added the detail of background fading/ disappearing after their conversation with ML. it would have been a lot better for scene and character.
What is the truth about that? Because I thought they were going to show that in today's episode but they didn't.
Not that delusional idiot believes, Nobel families and Su family did never wrong. They were pious and pure people, it was the crown prince and Emperor, who was tyrannical, and Ya and Su elders loved each other and emperor was wrong for marrying her....in reality it was his favourite nobel families, who forced Ya and Su couple to break up and forced Ya to become Empress. So, he is trying to make sure crown prince never inherits the throne and he will kill again !
What is the truth about that? Because I thought they were going to show that in today's episode but they didn't.
That's what I am confused about cuz I have told you pretty much everything that happened in past life but my suspicion is, "There is no honor among thieves" and Shangguan Ya may have betrayed him. Apart from her only one who know about crown price (aka Su Bastard/her son) ancestry in whole realm was SQR. Her objectives were already achieved, so in order to protect her son future. She may have directly killed the Living Vibrator or accused him of killing ML/FL and Emperor and got him killed this way, or who knows Qin Zhen Zhen son had alot of military power in the North with armies under him. He may have very well marched back and kill all those rebellious bastards including Ya and SQR.
What is the truth about that? Because I thought they were going to show that in today's episode but they didn't.
We are both referring to the same scene and I remember FL saying, Its not that SQR I never knew you were that evil and were doing things behind my back...I just simply choose to ignore them in that life (referring to her obsession/love for ML in previous life).
What is the truth about that? Because I thought they were going to show that in today's episode but they didn't.
Now comes the main point, FL personally send gifts to the emperor herself (I don't remember correctly but they were from her), SQR put poison inside them to kill the emperor (for Su family avenge), Emperor got sick and was death bed, Shangguan Ya came repeatedly told Emperor that poison was within his sister gift. FL was firmly supporting crown prince and had SQR (who wronged him in past). Emperor knew of Su family tracheary, Ya cheating and Crown prince being Su family bastard....so Emperor though FL was trying to rebel by removing him from throne and was installing non-Li family, Su-bastard on the throne and had now attempted to assassinate him. In his mind she has always stand by Nobel families against him and her own husband and is now turned traitorous by attempting to remove Li family (belonging to her father, brother) from power and passing throne to Su family due to her Sex toy.
FL knew nothing of this and Emperor didn't knew (she didn't know any of this), hence FL deserved death for main character of traitors faction and he asked ML to kill her but knew he won't....So he attempted to poison her (believing she poisoned him first under Ya instigation), now SQR/Ya knew about this and had antidote on hand to save FL life.
That's why I have been saying, he didn't poison her but was directly responsible for death by tricking LC to kill her, had means at hand to save her but refused and let her die. but the brought the poison and after confirmation of ML death, SQR personally feed her the poison drink to kill her (with antidote on hand). While both of them stood there and enjoyed watching her die
What is the truth about that? Because I thought they were going to show that in today's episode but they didn't.
Okay I will give you full account, in previous life Emperor/ML led an expedition to the North to conquer it and he wanted to conquer the Northlands cuz he promised his sister (FL) in the past. That he would never allow her to be send as political marriage hostage to that country. For that, he tried to raise taxes on the Nobel families, asked for supplies but they firmly resisted it. Still ML managed to scrabble enough money and they set off but when they were fighting the enemy, the Nobel family corruption made sure not enough supplies/food reached his army and eventually he was forced to abandon the campaign and moved back home bitterly. FL BACKED NOBEL FAMILIES ! Then Emperor/ML (duo) tried to raise taxes on the nobel families to fill-up the treasury, so they can deal with south flooding problem but with FL backing of nobel families and continuous fights with ML it failed. Then the duo tried to reform the imperial examination system and duo forced the reform through the court, Nobel families resisted it and it was not properly applied and hence it failed...again with FL HELP to Nobel families. Now comes the big crimes, ML never liked Shangguan Ya and refused to sleep with her, he was using some sort of medicine which was making him vomit and he was using it to refuse sex with her (remember this point, he knew he never had full sex with her) but nobel families wanted a child of Empress belonging to nobel families. So they can install him on the throne and get rid of the emperor, A) So they invited Shangguan Ya back home on false pretense (Lying to Emperor) and asked Su elder to fuck her, which they did (crime of deceiving the emperor and instigating empress to cheat, infidelity of imperial family member). Both Su and Shangguan families were in on it. B) Then bastard Su child was born by empress and FL+Nobel families forced emperor to make him crown prince (crime of deceiving the emperor and grave crime of installing nobel family member on throne. rebellion). C) Then in order to secure the future of his kid/Crown prince Su elder tried to kill the Qin Zhen Zhen child but ends up killing her (grave crime of rebellion and murder of imperial concubine). D) Now thanks to ML investigation, he found out Su elder killed Qin Zhen Zhen and whole Shangguan Ya cheating on Emperor with Su Elder, he told the emperor and FL during that time firmly opposed her brother and supported Empress Ya and nobel families.
So, let me count it down for you, a) Nobel families always opposed the Emperor and tried to remove him - Intent and planning of Rebellion and disrespect of imperial authority = x2 death penalty for all nobel houses b) Lying to Emperor, crime of deceiving the emperor, instigating empress to cheat, infidelity of imperial family member = x4 death penalty and clan execution for Shanguan and Su families (2 for deceiving the emperor, 1 for instigating and helping her cheat and 1 for her cheating) c)Crime of deceiving the emperor and grave crime of attempt at installing nobel family member on throne/rebellion = 1 death penalties and 1 clan execution for Ya and Su families. d) Attempted assassination of royal prince and assassination of imperial concubine = x2 Death penalties and clan execution for Su family.
So, these 10 valid reasons by ancient chinese law, why Su family deserved to be exterminated and Emperor was only castrating them but they killed themselves in shame and when FL save SQR from death by forcing emperor, it further strained their relationship.
SQR IS TOTALLY IN WRONG, EVERYHTING WRONG IN WORLD WAS CAUSED BY NOBEL FAMILIES AND SU FAMILY DESERVED DEATH 10 TIMES !
2)Bath scene
3)Brothel scene
4)Old Minister Pie scene with her mother-in-law waiting outside to catch the hoe inside !
I am happy now have clearly shown change in FL attitude by getting rid of the longing looks !
When you negotiate a deal with car dealership for Toyota Carolla and they give you Lamborghini😂. After that imperial physicians were also high on some pre-historic cocaine, FL worryingly asked him about "What precautions she should take, while taking care of her chronically sick husband" and he told her "He is okay, You guys can still fuck" like man....😂😂😂😂
Emperor also chimed in and slapped his consort without much evidence !
To all Living Dildo sympathizers, today you saw a glimpse of SML love for LR in which he threatens her 24/7 and attempts to destroy her career and hurt's her brother and husband, to somehow force her to his bidding and live her life as he dictates, all in name of loving and caring for her. He is doing this and went to extreme limits cuz in his delusional mind, he knows her better than anyone and is doing her favour by controlling and manipulating her like he did in past life. While the hard truth to swallow is, he never loved her in any lifetime, he loves to control and manipulate/hurt her and most importantly he loves the power that comes by controlling elder princess.
She doesn't have right to think and live otherwise and if she does it will force him to harm and kill her like he did in previous life, such is his love for LR !
"To be honest, I don't think the show is doing such a great job glorifying SRQ...he's just coming across as a sad plot device to add tension to the main couple, and I suppose, a convenient villain."
That's cuz actor playing the role is very weak and I am quiet disappointed with his portrayal so far, his role had a lot power and complexity behind it but he fumbled at multiple places like "internal struggle between his obsession with FL and need to save his family is not displayed properly", he lacks the acting/emotional range to use micro expression with slight change in his tone and voice to deliver the change in his internal emotional change or battle.
You better believe if this role was played Jeremy Tusai or Liu Xue Yi, the comment section would be completely different and our sympathizes will be far and wide with SQR. His role had such a power and depth LXY would have overpowered, outmatched and outclassed ML to such a extent...show would putting in ML scenes again and again to glorify him and save him from onslaught.
FL was also seen mentioning in the drama/novel, that SQR will always bow his head and listen to her commands but it was only ML, who had the guts to fight him and hence in her mind he was always one step above her.
"I think after living and doing sex, eating ( he used to make and feed her from his hands), playing and sharing sorrow and happiness together for so long like nearly half their life it's genuine to get feelings it's not like LR was a robot without any emotions and would spend her rest of the weeping from the love she had for PWX after getting seperated ,she was a prideful princess. Now LR is most probably ashamed to acknowledge those feelings infront of PWX after knowing his real feelings "
This was not the case for multiple reasons, first if she actually loved SML. She would have let go of her obsession and his loved would have fixed the knot in her heart and there was no need for her to cry at ML death or during the boat sex scene say to herself, I chased these feelings (he made her cum with this technique, EXTREME DISS AT SQR being castrated and his techniques) for 20 years but never was able to get it and here he is again, giving me those same feelings again and due to his 1 year of experience better than his old self.
So, I am not saying there was nothing but there was a strong sense of closeness and friendship/likeness there but her description of him was nothing more than a "Slave/friend" in her mind, whom she can bend at will and for ML it was different, as something out of her hand. She wanted to possess, She even said it herself in drama/novel. When they saw fireworks that "Love and hate" are very close to each other !
Then we have further confirmation of it, when Shangguan Ya and SQR described FL, she is a person who is afraid of love, more she loved more she will be afraid and close her heart to supress the feelings cuz she has been taught from young age that feeling are weakness. I don't know why are we having this conversation cuz SQR admitted it himself before his fake death to ML, SHE ALWAYS LOVED HIM MORE THAN HIM AND ANYTHING ELSE !
He knew it and hence worked hard to change it and open knot in her heart,
The problem with FL character is her Ego, reluctance to accept her fault (princess syndrome), superiority complex and her foul mouth....These things combined had hurt her more than anything else in the world and her foul mouth and capability to hurt, forces other character to take drastic steps, which she is immediately get hurt by and gets even more angry, than her ego steps in and she refuses to acknowledge her wrongdoing, bow the head or stand down.
Now you may have notice she only acts like this in front of ML and with SML and other people, she don't give a Fuck about and is all proper and follows etiquette and its cuz she doesn't care about their motives or their responses at all. With ML its different and she shows her true heart with ability to get hurt.
Lastly, I remember she told ML in previous life. That you can spend 10 years of your alone as celebal/monk but I can't deal with loneliness and need someone to spend life with, I know you love her but I can't deal with divided love.
So trust me, when I tell you I am not FL fan and kinda hate her character and sympathize greatly with ML but in this case, FL actually loved that man alot in both lives. As much as I hate it, its true !
He is no Jeremy Tusai or Liu Xue Yi, and Jeremy have retired but Liu Xue Yi would have rocked in that role !
So, who knows !
Sooner or later, he will create big ass and drag other nobel families with him into it.
Secondly its actually not that difficult, FL worryingly looking at his Emperor, her sister face and then SQR would have gotten the point across (she is looking up for crown price) but today FL acting slummed and she is relatively young.
"Coming up with a background character to bestow "advice" or an "idea" gets us to the character-decides-on-plan without twisting visual media into knots trying to relay a character's interiority."
but it takes away from the complexity of his character and fails to convey his mental state of the mind, You are right about actor being mediocre cuz I am also not fan of his acting. He didn't portray the internal struggle going on between him properly and his longing for FL to political intruges....man has a lot of ground to improve upon.
I am just saying, if they added the detail of background fading/ disappearing after their conversation with ML. it would have been a lot better for scene and character.
So, he is trying to make sure crown prince never inherits the throne and he will kill again !
Apart from her only one who know about crown price (aka Su Bastard/her son) ancestry in whole realm was SQR. Her objectives were already achieved, so in order to protect her son future.
She may have directly killed the Living Vibrator or accused him of killing ML/FL and Emperor and got him killed this way, or who knows Qin Zhen Zhen son had alot of military power in the North with armies under him.
He may have very well marched back and kill all those rebellious bastards including Ya and SQR.
FL personally send gifts to the emperor herself (I don't remember correctly but they were from her), SQR put poison inside them to kill the emperor (for Su family avenge), Emperor got sick and was death bed, Shangguan Ya came repeatedly told Emperor that poison was within his sister gift. FL was firmly supporting crown prince and had SQR (who wronged him in past). Emperor knew of Su family tracheary, Ya cheating and Crown prince being Su family bastard....so Emperor though FL was trying to rebel by removing him from throne and was installing non-Li family, Su-bastard on the throne and had now attempted to assassinate him. In his mind she has always stand by Nobel families against him and her own husband and is now turned traitorous by attempting to remove Li family (belonging to her father, brother) from power and passing throne to Su family due to her Sex toy.
FL knew nothing of this and Emperor didn't knew (she didn't know any of this), hence FL deserved death for main character of traitors faction and he asked ML to kill her but knew he won't....So he attempted to poison her (believing she poisoned him first under Ya instigation), now SQR/Ya knew about this and had antidote on hand to save FL life.
That's why I have been saying, he didn't poison her but was directly responsible for death by tricking LC to kill her, had means at hand to save her but refused and let her die.
but the brought the poison and after confirmation of ML death, SQR personally feed her the poison drink to kill her (with antidote on hand). While both of them stood there and enjoyed watching her die
in previous life Emperor/ML led an expedition to the North to conquer it and he wanted to conquer the Northlands cuz he promised his sister (FL) in the past. That he would never allow her to be send as political marriage hostage to that country. For that, he tried to raise taxes on the Nobel families, asked for supplies but they firmly resisted it.
Still ML managed to scrabble enough money and they set off but when they were fighting the enemy, the Nobel family corruption made sure not enough supplies/food reached his army and eventually he was forced to abandon the campaign and moved back home bitterly. FL BACKED NOBEL FAMILIES !
Then Emperor/ML (duo) tried to raise taxes on the nobel families to fill-up the treasury, so they can deal with south flooding problem but with FL backing of nobel families and continuous fights with ML it failed.
Then the duo tried to reform the imperial examination system and duo forced the reform through the court, Nobel families resisted it and it was not properly applied and hence it failed...again with FL HELP to Nobel families.
Now comes the big crimes, ML never liked Shangguan Ya and refused to sleep with her, he was using some sort of medicine which was making him vomit and he was using it to refuse sex with her (remember this point, he knew he never had full sex with her) but nobel families wanted a child of Empress belonging to nobel families. So they can install him on the throne and get rid of the emperor,
A) So they invited Shangguan Ya back home on false pretense (Lying to Emperor) and asked Su elder to fuck her, which they did (crime of deceiving the emperor and instigating empress to cheat, infidelity of imperial family member). Both Su and Shangguan families were in on it.
B) Then bastard Su child was born by empress and FL+Nobel families forced emperor to make him crown prince (crime of deceiving the emperor and grave crime of installing nobel family member on throne. rebellion).
C) Then in order to secure the future of his kid/Crown prince Su elder tried to kill the Qin Zhen Zhen child but ends up killing her (grave crime of rebellion and murder of imperial concubine).
D) Now thanks to ML investigation, he found out Su elder killed Qin Zhen Zhen and whole Shangguan Ya cheating on Emperor with Su Elder, he told the emperor and FL during that time firmly opposed her brother and supported Empress Ya and nobel families.
So, let me count it down for you,
a) Nobel families always opposed the Emperor and tried to remove him - Intent and planning of Rebellion and disrespect of imperial authority = x2 death penalty for all nobel houses
b) Lying to Emperor, crime of deceiving the emperor, instigating empress to cheat, infidelity of imperial family member = x4 death penalty and clan execution for Shanguan and Su families (2 for deceiving the emperor, 1 for instigating and helping her cheat and 1 for her cheating)
c)Crime of deceiving the emperor and grave crime of attempt at installing nobel family member on throne/rebellion = 1 death penalties and 1 clan execution for Ya and Su families.
d) Attempted assassination of royal prince and assassination of imperial concubine = x2 Death penalties and clan execution for Su family.
So, these 10 valid reasons by ancient chinese law, why Su family deserved to be exterminated and Emperor was only castrating them but they killed themselves in shame and when FL save SQR from death by forcing emperor, it further strained their relationship.
SQR IS TOTALLY IN WRONG, EVERYHTING WRONG IN WORLD WAS CAUSED BY NOBEL FAMILIES AND SU FAMILY DESERVED DEATH 10 TIMES !