Despite all the love she gave him, he still used her money without her consent. He misunderstood her and left…
Well you keep saying that he's using grandma's money when in fact he never was and I just clarify that. But the way you keep insisting he use grandma's money is looking like you want to keep putting him under false image.
True, HJP is at fault for not asking grandma's permission & he could be charged for that. But you can't say that he use her money when he never was. It was his money to begin with, that he deposit under her account. He made the investment on his part, he earned the capital gain from buying the stocks he choose to buy from his very own money (even if it was through Grandma's account). You can't say the gain from the stocks was Grandma's money either even if it was under her account when she never did the investment herself.
Legally speaking yes Grandma's the owner of the account, but we all know that those money came from the investment does not belong to her because she never earned it herself. What's belong to grandma is the interest from the saving account, but not the capital gain from the stocks. You can count it as well how much money belongs to Grandma & how much money belongs to HJP, using the interest percentage of the saving account or bank statement & investment report, which I think exactly what grandma did.
I had nothing personal against you, the way you're bringing NDS was so out of the blue & your point was unclear to me before.
Despite all the love she gave him, he still used her money without her consent. He misunderstood her and left…
Ehm no, when you buy stocks, you can decide how much money you want to invest, you don't need to put all the money on the account as your investment, the account is just a mere requirement needed to be the source to buy stocks & transferred the income . If his investment fall then he will loose his stocks equal to his money he put for investment but not the money on her account so it's not relevant.
And lol, why do you have to bring Do San in this matter? Just irrelevant. No need to bring down HJP into bad light just so you can put NDS into a good light. Because if you put it that way, I find Do san is arguably be a good boy when Dal mi is in the context, but I don't want to prolong the conversation as it will have no end.
Despite all the love she gave him, he still used her money without her consent. He misunderstood her and left…
What? NO! it's nothing like that, you misunderstood it. He NEVER USE grandma's money. He only use her account to put his money (given by the orphanage+his winning competition money) on her account since he's still underage to open his own account. Then he invested his part (this is quite plenty amount since it's enough for him to rent a place, remember?) to buy the stocks which later got multiplied by alot. The gain was belong to him not grandma. He never take grandma's money. Later, grandma realize this, withdraw all the money, gave her part to Dalmi's father & return what belongs to HJP to HJP. The money was never grandma's to begin with. HJP feeling guilty & shameful after misunderstood grandma for being greedy and give all his hard earned money to her son (to be fair, the scene was actually really felt like that & easy for people to misunderstood, although he shd hv know grandma's better, but he still a kid with alot of things to learn), so he left.
But he's a good boy, he remember all the good deeds Grandma has given to him and feeling regretful for not being able to help grandma because he wasn't there besides her when she was struggling. If only he didn't misunderstood grandma at that time & forcefully had to leave while swallow his pride like that, I believe he will share his money to grandma as well.
Since I see people being confused on what "debt" Ji Pyeong has for grandma, I think I'll just share my take on that here:
Grandma gave him a shelter to live, she welcome him wholeheartedly & genuinely care for him, an orphan who had no one to depend on (who still bitter & full of thorns after being forced to leave the orphanage). They're practically strangers when they met, but she trusted him & gave him her place to live & even lent him her bank account. She gave him her warm embrace, like a family he never had.
JP might actually lost everything if Grandma didn't took him in, because his money is even not enough for him to eat if he spent his money to rent a place to live. He can't even afford to buy Grandma's corndog >> I think Grandma noticed this. Only with Grandma's help, he's able to multiply his money enough for him to live & become what he is right now.
That's why he said that his debt to grandma can't be paid off by money, because she gave him her heart, kindness & trust when he was a nobody.
Sorry, I just want to correct something regarding your sentence "jinpyeong had the stock profits from grandma's…
She gave him a shelter to live, she welcome him wholeheartedly & genuinely care for him, an orphan who had no one to depend on, when actually they're practically strangers when they met, she trusted him & even lent him her bank account. She gave him her warm embrace, like a family he never had.
JP might actually lost everything if Grandma didn't took him in, because his money is even not enough for him to eat if he spent them to rent a place to live. Only with Grandma's help, he's able to multiply his money enough for him to live & become what he is right now.
So yeah, that's why he said that his debt to grandma can't be paid off by money, because she gave him her heart & trust him when he was a nobody.
if my memory serves it right, it was dalmi who requested a sandbox from her father which eventually became the…
Sorry, I just want to correct something regarding your sentence "jinpyeong had the stock profits from grandma's money" Actually it's nothing like that, it was never grandma's money, it was Ji Pyeong's own money that he received from the orphanage & from winning competition, it's just he's too underage to open his own account so he put his money on grandma's account then invested his portion on stocks. Later, grandma withdraw it all, gave her part to Dalmi's father & return what's belong to JP to JP.
I think it's possible, but from other hand ML also considers Dal Mi not as a business partner, but as a women…
I agree, but actually we could also choose to see the white lies from grandma are the way for:
NDS to find his business partner & mentor to achieve the goal he's been look forward for so long/dreams
HJP to find his life partner & family
SDM to find her supportive friend, partner & way for proving herself as well achieving her & her dad's dream
So, everyone will find something for themselves. I know it will be still heartbreaking for NDS, but he'll still have his friends & family's support & they will always be there for him. Sometimes we can't win everything in life too.
I know that the story is already good as it is & I actually like that they're not focusing too much on the romance part but also mentor mentee dynamics, friendship, business theme, etc & I find it refreshing.
But I can't get this thing out of my mind, imagine if they could breaking the rules that the main leads have to be ended up together romantically, like, despite Dal Mi thought that the author of those letters is NDS, she fell for the real author which's HJP himself instead, so we know that her feeling is real & the dilemma will be within herself not knowing she fell into the right person (especially with how they kept prolong the lies rn).
So HJP could find that one person who understand the better of him. And NDS could achieve his goal & become successful with Dal Mi as co-partner & HJP as mentor. So even if Grand Ma might left them behind (I really hope not!) She already left her legacy & no one will ended up lonely.
I find this drama will be more meaningful that way rather than the usual formula how the main leads shd be ended up together & the SL getting sidelined and serve no purpose other than being a tool for the main leads to get together.
Well, this is just my two cents so I hope no one will get triggered. I know that the chance are slim, but hey, one could hope, right?
I love love LOVE Nam Do San! Not just as the main lead, but as a stand-alone character. This guy is gold. He is…
I encounter this person's post on other site & really like his/her post so if they don't mind I'd like to copy paste them here:
"up til now, Dosan has friends’ support (didn’t pay them for two years) and parents’ support (investment). In entrepreneurship, while these kinds of support are good things, they can be poisonous as people may be not motivated enough to work to their hardest to success. I think this is the case of Dosan. He always has his sandbox and HJP is the one to challenge his idle view about business startup. Remember HJP is called Gordon Ramsay in his field, so he says harsh words. He’s not evil kind of person. It’s a life-changing moment for Dosan to meet HJP. "
I agree with you in some way but Jipyeong is equally selfish. In last week's episodes, he boldly promises to never…
If that was it, how does that relevant to your saying that JP was selfish & conveniently want to reveal the truth because he saw DS-DM closeness? When actually it's the opposite. He's afraid the truth will hurt Dalmi so he won't try to expose the truth on ep 5 if he wasn't being cornered by Dal mi.
The difference between Do San & Ji Pyeong lie is, JP intention is never on his own accord, his priority is Dalmi & Grandma feelings While I can't say the same thing to Do San. Earlier Do San insist to keep the lie just so he had the chance to keep meeting Dal Mi, but soon after he's confident that he's able to get Dalmi's feelings he want to back out & reveal the truth, for his own accord.
I agree with you in some way but Jipyeong is equally selfish. In last week's episodes, he boldly promises to never…
Idk where do you get the idea that the reason ji pyeong was about to told DM the truth because he saw how close NDS to DM. JP was forced by DM to give her his explanation. And if the closeness you're referring to is the scene where DS hug DM, that scene happens only after DS interrupt DM-JP conversation which exactly counter your point. And I don't see any other scene that describe the closeness between DM-DS that was seen by JP tbh, they're working together & that's all. And like Naruxsasumi said, if there's one being jelly, it's NDS & basically that's the reason why he try to disclose the secret out.
jipyeong actually opposed dalmi's grandmother when she suggested to tell dalmi the truth. he never wanted to end…
Your post even make it more clear that NDS now being greedy as he more confident DM will love him so he's backing his words that the only reason DM will know the truth is if JP revealed them himself. It was his words when he's at disadvantage but not anymore when he had the upper hand, which's exactly my point.
jipyeong actually opposed dalmi's grandmother when she suggested to tell dalmi the truth. he never wanted to end…
Where have I ever said that it was pure NDS fault? If you don't understand my point please don't twist my words. And also your first sentence even contradicts your own words, lol "Well HJP never had any intention of telling Dalmi the truth ..the first time he decided to tell her DoSan showed up ....Later HJP just didnt want to continue the lie but that didn't mean he wanted to come clean"
And what HJP may feel to DM doesn't matter, the plot is now at NDS convenience for DM develop feelings to him, thus I said HJP letters is an advantage for NDS, as simple as that.
jipyeong actually opposed dalmi's grandmother when she suggested to tell dalmi the truth. he never wanted to end…
I don't think you understood my points. Ji Pyung already want to gave up & tell the truth at some point because he think it's almost impossible to keep the lie as Dal Mi will find the truth somehow, but Do San insists to keep the lie as he already smitten by Dal Mi & told him that the secret will be kept between them unless JP told her the truth & the only obstacle would be him being not a hotshot men so they need to work on that.
Also, regardless those letter was the real HJP or not, it doesn't matter, it was written by HJP not NDS, it was HJP thought not NDS, so relying on those letters to get Dal Mi's feeling would still be a fraud.
Can't they ended the whole lie already? It's so nervewrecking since I find it'll be unfair for HJP if Dal Mi fell for NDS using HJP letter as her base. How can I root for DM-NDS pairing if they made it that way?
Also I kinda dislike NDS for insisting to keep the lie earlier (as HJP about to give up) when he was at disadvantage , but when he had the upper hand, he's so ready to ditch HJP.
I hope the lie could be ended soon for Dal Mi choose her partner fairly, not using HJP letter for NDS advantage.
I dislike the idea of love triangle between the three, but if they had to make them exist, please let it be fair & square, stop milking this whole misunderstanding & lie. It'd be so cliche & so frustating to see if they make DM realize the real author of those letters only until much later after she fell for NDS with HJP based on it.
I'm slowly starting to ship SDL and NDS, although I'm still rooting for HJP.I really want to see confident and…
I actually don't, I can't bring myself to like NDS-DM pairings. Idk, but I kinda dislike NDS for insisting to keep the lie earlier when he was at disadvantage (she love everything about HJP but only like his hands), but when he had the upper hand (she found it's ok for him not being a hot shot) he's so ready to ditch HJP. I hope the lie could be ended soon for Dal Mi choose her partner fairly, not using HJP letter for NDS advantage
I am watching an ELON MUSK interview and wow I just noticed how he talks a lot like DOSAN. The way he is awkward,…
From what I've seen when he make a cameo appearance on Coffee friends (reality show) Nam Joo Hyuk was indeed the awkward shy type, so I think yes maybe the writer know his real personality & had him in mind when she wrote his character.
True, HJP is at fault for not asking grandma's permission & he could be charged for that. But you can't say that he use her money when he never was. It was his money to begin with, that he deposit under her account. He made the investment on his part, he earned the capital gain from buying the stocks he choose to buy from his very own money (even if it was through Grandma's account). You can't say the gain from the stocks was Grandma's money either even if it was under her account when she never did the investment herself.
Legally speaking yes Grandma's the owner of the account, but we all know that those money came from the investment does not belong to her because she never earned it herself. What's belong to grandma is the interest from the saving account, but not the capital gain from the stocks.
You can count it as well how much money belongs to Grandma & how much money belongs to HJP, using the interest percentage of the saving account or bank statement & investment report, which I think exactly what grandma did.
I had nothing personal against you, the way you're bringing NDS was so out of the blue & your point was unclear to me before.
And lol, why do you have to bring Do San in this matter? Just irrelevant. No need to bring down HJP into bad light just so you can put NDS into a good light.
Because if you put it that way, I find Do san is arguably be a good boy when Dal mi is in the context, but I don't want to prolong the conversation as it will have no end.
Then he invested his part (this is quite plenty amount since it's enough for him to rent a place, remember?) to buy the stocks which later got multiplied by alot. The gain was belong to him not grandma. He never take grandma's money. Later, grandma realize this, withdraw all the money, gave her part to Dalmi's father & return what belongs to HJP to HJP.
The money was never grandma's to begin with. HJP feeling guilty & shameful after misunderstood grandma for being greedy and give all his hard earned money to her son (to be fair, the scene was actually really felt like that & easy for people to misunderstood, although he shd hv know grandma's better, but he still a kid with alot of things to learn), so he left.
But he's a good boy, he remember all the good deeds Grandma has given to him and feeling regretful for not being able to help grandma because he wasn't there besides her when she was struggling. If only he didn't misunderstood grandma at that time & forcefully had to leave while swallow his pride like that, I believe he will share his money to grandma as well.
Grandma gave him a shelter to live, she welcome him wholeheartedly & genuinely care for him, an orphan who had no one to depend on (who still bitter & full of thorns after being forced to leave the orphanage). They're practically strangers when they met, but she trusted him & gave him her place to live & even lent him her bank account.
She gave him her warm embrace, like a family he never had.
JP might actually lost everything if Grandma didn't took him in, because his money is even not enough for him to eat if he spent his money to rent a place to live. He can't even afford to buy Grandma's corndog >> I think Grandma noticed this.
Only with Grandma's help, he's able to multiply his money enough for him to live & become what he is right now.
That's why he said that his debt to grandma can't be paid off by money, because she gave him her heart, kindness & trust when he was a nobody.
JP might actually lost everything if Grandma didn't took him in, because his money is even not enough for him to eat if he spent them to rent a place to live. Only with Grandma's help, he's able to multiply his money enough for him to live & become what he is right now.
So yeah, that's why he said that his debt to grandma can't be paid off by money, because she gave him her heart & trust him when he was a nobody.
Actually it's nothing like that, it was never grandma's money, it was Ji Pyeong's own money that he received from the orphanage & from winning competition, it's just he's too underage to open his own account so he put his money on grandma's account then invested his portion on stocks. Later, grandma withdraw it all, gave her part to Dalmi's father & return what's belong to JP to JP.
NDS to find his business partner & mentor to achieve the goal he's been look forward for so long/dreams
HJP to find his life partner & family
SDM to find her supportive friend, partner & way for proving herself as well achieving her & her dad's dream
So, everyone will find something for themselves. I know it will be still heartbreaking for NDS, but he'll still have his friends & family's support & they will always be there for him. Sometimes we can't win everything in life too.
But I can't get this thing out of my mind, imagine if they could breaking the rules that the main leads have to be ended up together romantically, like, despite Dal Mi thought that the author of those letters is NDS, she fell for the real author which's HJP himself instead, so we know that her feeling is real & the dilemma will be within herself not knowing she fell into the right person (especially with how they kept prolong the lies rn).
So HJP could find that one person who understand the better of him.
And NDS could achieve his goal & become successful with Dal Mi as co-partner & HJP as mentor.
So even if Grand Ma might left them behind (I really hope not!) She already left her legacy & no one will ended up lonely.
I find this drama will be more meaningful that way rather than the usual formula how the main leads shd be ended up together & the SL getting sidelined and serve no purpose other than being a tool for the main leads to get together.
Well, this is just my two cents so I hope no one will get triggered.
I know that the chance are slim, but hey, one could hope, right?
I knew they'd prolong the lies further, arghh how frustating & the lies goes even deeper with saying them being sibling like, lol, aigooo Do San-yaa
I hope the grandma will be okay TT, don't take her away from Dal Mi & Ji Pyeong, show!!
"up til now, Dosan has friends’ support (didn’t pay them for two years) and parents’ support (investment). In entrepreneurship, while these kinds of support are good things, they can be poisonous as people may be not motivated enough to work to their hardest to success. I think this is the case of Dosan. He always has his sandbox and HJP is the one to challenge his idle view about business startup. Remember HJP is called Gordon Ramsay in his field, so he says harsh words. He’s not evil kind of person. It’s a life-changing moment for Dosan to meet HJP. "
The difference between Do San & Ji Pyeong lie is, JP intention is never on his own accord, his priority is Dalmi & Grandma feelings
While I can't say the same thing to Do San.
Earlier Do San insist to keep the lie just so he had the chance to keep meeting Dal Mi, but soon after he's confident that he's able to get Dalmi's feelings he want to back out & reveal the truth, for his own accord.
And like Naruxsasumi said, if there's one being jelly, it's NDS & basically that's the reason why he try to disclose the secret out.
It was his words when he's at disadvantage but not anymore when he had the upper hand, which's exactly my point.
And also your first sentence even contradicts your own words, lol
"Well HJP never had any intention of telling Dalmi the truth
..the first time he decided to tell her DoSan showed up ....Later HJP just didnt want to continue the lie but that didn't mean he wanted to come clean"
And what HJP may feel to DM doesn't matter, the plot is now at NDS convenience for DM develop feelings to him, thus I said HJP letters is an advantage for NDS, as simple as that.
Ji Pyung already want to gave up & tell the truth at some point because he think it's almost impossible to keep the lie as Dal Mi will find the truth somehow, but Do San insists to keep the lie as he already smitten by Dal Mi & told him that the secret will be kept between them unless JP told her the truth & the only obstacle would be him being not a hotshot men so they need to work on that.
Also, regardless those letter was the real HJP or not, it doesn't matter, it was written by HJP not NDS, it was HJP thought not NDS, so relying on those letters to get Dal Mi's feeling would still be a fraud.
It's so nervewrecking since I find it'll be unfair for HJP if Dal Mi fell for NDS using HJP letter as her base.
How can I root for DM-NDS pairing if they made it that way?
Also I kinda dislike NDS for insisting to keep the lie earlier (as HJP about to give up) when he was at disadvantage , but when he had the upper hand, he's so ready to ditch HJP.
I hope the lie could be ended soon for Dal Mi choose her partner fairly, not using HJP letter for NDS advantage.
I dislike the idea of love triangle between the three, but if they had to make them exist, please let it be fair & square, stop milking this whole misunderstanding & lie.
It'd be so cliche & so frustating to see if they make DM realize the real author of those letters only until much later after she fell for NDS with HJP based on it.