Dreamy

Idk why ppl need to bring the actors personal life into their drama, even if this drama was consider a failure one to me it's because of how poor the writing is/the lack of writing, & not because of the actors personal life

Just came across to see someone posts on db that reflected my point so much & since I'm bad at words, well english to be exact, so I think I'm just gonna post this here: (Credit goes to each owner of the post on db ofc)

#1"if you want to resolve conflict, petty isn't the way to do that. It just makes people involved more and more miserable. I'm dissapointed in Jiho's action and if this conflict isn't resolved in more than one episode I think I'm going to give up on this show.
Jiho (and Horang) are enforcing the negative stereotype of women that we are unreasonable and can't communicate properly. I hate that. She imagined those interaction and she's delusional by herself but when that delusion didn't come true she blamed other people. Jiho-ya, I thought you're a reasonable person. I mean Sehee asked her point blank did she like him or not and she answered no! If you misunderstand something, it's not fair that your first action is to blame other people.
Compare this with the heroine in the japanese drama Nigeru wa haji (the storyline is so similar. I think it's fair to compare them). When she overstepped her boundaries, the first thing she did was apologize. That's what the male lead did too. And that's what adult should do. So their relationship grew, not in a hateful petty misunderstanding way (like most kdrama do) but in nice and respectful way. Also Nigeru can discuss sensitive social problems better than the korean counterpart where all they did was beating around the bush and not make a real statement."

#2 "I certainly don't want this to be yet another drama where guy gets jealous, guy goes after girl, girl makes him sweat. I just can't enjoy that kind of game-playing at my age. What's to enjoy about another person's suffering, even if "he started it" (which I don't think he did).
Ji-ho is seeing everything through the lens of what she needs. And yes, she's certainly been through a lot. But it doesn't entitle her to anything, certainly not to an intimate relationship that the other person didn't agree to."

#3"If you're going to ask another person whether they don't like something you're doing, then don't take offence when they give an answer that is honest but disappoints you."

#4"I don't think Se-hee really changed at all. He seems to have become more comfortable with Ji-Ho, but this doesn't seem out of character. You can't say that Se-hee is changing his belief about marriage yet. Also, I don't think he ever tried to include her in anything. He didn't seem to imply anything when he said "our" and meant it very literally. They are housemates. So, the house is "ours." Ji-Ho just misinterpreted his actions and words."
Se-Hee’s words/actions actually acknowledged their shared (and agreed) role of mutual need—where they made decisions together. She on the other hand now interpreted this to be a shared relationship where she could make decisions unilaterally (the relationship Ho-Rang wants).
Se-Hee may appear awkward, but he seems to have an underlying desire to be free of the Korean fiefdoms (owing and being owed: be that work, his time, his parent paying for him…). When he said he wanted to marry Ji-Ho because it was her; he was comfortable opening up his quest for independence and letting someone else on the island he is making for himself as they appear to be going the same way.
And yes, once they agreed to marry, there was a shared role to agree. Hence his use of the term “us”. Ji-Ho is ridiculously bad at context of situations. Is this why her drama writing (refer those Ep01 scenes) demonstrate such a romantic naivety

#5 "my main problem with Jiho is that she wants to be understood by Sehee but she doesn't want to understand him. When she asked him to lower the price of rent and when she asked him to eat breakfast together the other day, Sehee did it because he understood her and consider how she felt. But now when Sehee asked her to understand him and keep their boundaries she's angry and lashed out in a childish way. When she said that she didn't have a boyfriend to Boknam, what did she think would happen? That Sehee apologize and ask her to be a married couple for real? Why didn't she think of the consequences? What if their parents know about the contract marriage because they see her go on a date with other men? What's the point of contract marriage then?"

#6"This drama just turned from having realistic communication schemes into the typical K-drama 'chip-on-shoulder' 'you owe me' 'I have a right to not be hurt' junk.
Being open, my foot. If she didn't want him to eat together and take the utensils, she could have put them on her side. Instead, she obviously wanted to set up a scenario to 'get back at' him and make sure he would assume something so that she could momentarily feel good about making him feel bad. I really, really, really, really, really... forget it. You just can't talk with people like that."

#7"I am not an emotionless person but I will be pissed if even my boyfriend would name my cat without asking me first and it is my cat, so I would love to cuddle it first, thank you very much, I think Ji Ho overstepped boundaries when she named the cat and behaved like it was her cat when they entered, she is not stupid and sees what kind of person he is, she should have known better."


I'd like to see a more mature Ji ho in the upcoming episodes, it's more than enough that we have the less mature one : Ho Rang, in 1 drama.
I understand her outburst but that didn't make her petty action right.
While Se hee's words seems harsh/hard to hear, he is just being honest with answering her question in the first place.

I think it's common ground for normal ppl to know that you're expected to be professional at work thus seperate your personal life with your works & keep things private PRIVATE, hence I can understand why he took her visit as an intervention of his private/professional life at his work place, especially its Se hee we're talkin' about & we get to see whenever his friend brings up his personal life at works, he brushed it off/uncomfortable with it, he also didn't know that she didn't invite herself in when visited his office so I think there's a misunderstanding there.
They also made it clear for us to know that he respect routinity, whenever he came home from work first thing he do was holding his cat & strokes her hair.
So when Ji ho take that away from him + renaming his cat + visited his office without notice that day he took that as breaking his boundaries. I'm not saying he's not at fault, but to me both parties are wrong, including Jiho. She maybe a bit clueless about Se hee but it's not like she didn't know how different Se hee as a person at all so imo she shd be asking his permission first at the very least & no matter how clueless she is, she did overstep the boundaries.
All they need to do is sit down & talk about it to adjust & compromise with each other to make it work so there'll be no misunderstanding, imo.

I disagree, I think it's unfair to blame it all on him. Sure I myself would be hurt with his words if I'm on Ji ho shoes, but if you take alook from his POV I think I understand him. This guy is an antisocial, normal ppl like us may think it's an act of kindness but for him it was an intervention of his privacy. First, I don't think he knew that Ji ho didn't invite herself in to come at his office. Idk, but if some strangers/acquaintances come barge in to my office without notice I wouldn't be that happy too, it's not like she is his real wife. Second, she renamed his cat, I find it's rude, like renaming your kid. I get that she didn't have any bad intention, but still she shd be at least asking for his permission first as its owner. While Se hee did it wrong by bringing "us" into the table in the first place, I think he just soften up after seeing Jiho's mom letter & to see her crying. And to have her intervented his privacy like that at once in the same day it's too much for him to take so he take a step back.
I'm on her side for saying not to give anyfalsehope if he didn't meant it & take a distance from him but if she overreacted/hurts him everytime his words hurts her, that would make an unhealthy relationship. Both need time and adjust with eachother, they need to try to understand eachother better by seeing from eachother pov otherwise maybe they shouldn't belong together in the firstplace

Actually I hesitated to watch this at first cause I'm not fond of the lead's acting (especially Go Ahra but that's including SSH too). After watching 4 ep, boy was I wrong, I loved it, the plot is different & intriguing, so much mystery & on top of that SSH played 2different roles & I love them both. I'd say just try & decide by yourself if you like it or not, imo it's worth trying for.

Yes, I think both are new in terms of relationship. And just like it's hard for her not to get carried away, samething goes for him too. All he need is time to adapt/accept her in his life & I hope she can give him that. They just need more time to adjust & talked just like they're used to be

I understand, it's only natural she feels hurt & made a mistake by blaming/hurting the other just so she can feel better, that's why I only said that I hope later she'll try to understand him better cause I know it's hard to do when feelings are involved. But in marriage we can't take things too emotionally & only focused on our pov (how he hurted us, etc), we need to put ourself in other ppl/our partner pov too otherwise we'll only ended up hurting eachother feelings & nothing good came with it. :)

Woww, am so happy I can watch them earlier than it should, hope they'll get a better rating too, thanks for the updates :)

Same, sure Wdh is hot dang sexy & the casts acting are great but the story not so much, this one also the least fav among 7airing kdrama I watched after the recently dropped Revolutionary love

Agree! While I'm all in with her saying to take a distance from him & tells him not to give any false hope, I feel like she treated him too harsh (not giving him breakfast) -> poor puppies X').
I mean, this guy is an antics, almost a socialpobhia yet she expected him to get from 0 to 100 real quick? Ain't it's too much?
Sure this guy need some space/time to adjust/accepted her in his world.
If she overreacted like this everytime he take a distance, in real life I won't be surprised if they'll get a divorce in days, lol.
So, although I'd be happy to see a jelly Se Hee in the upcoming episodes, I expect her to learn & be more understanding/soften a lil' bit towards him too.

Have rewatched this for a countless time & never get bored with it, especially ep 7 onwards, lovesick Kang Min ho showing tantrums is the cutest

This got pushed back? Last time I see it was scheduled to be air on Oct 31

Wow, thank you!
I like the way you said "asshole lawyer" so much agree! XD

2017 & still the best one. Miss you Doctor's Son, my fav character in the history of all time my kdrama watching

Gosh that cliffhangers..& why no preview???
Glad that this one got subbed fast though. Can't wait for tomorrow's ep!

Ahh, so it's really age of youth2 all over again then, thanks for letting me know @John_Smith I wonder why this broadcasters didn't pick all the good ones like this one & AOY2, too bad :(

Am sooo tempted to start watching this but I feel like this one gonna be like Age of youth 2 sub all over again (subbing take much longer). How long does it normally take for the subbed ver release after the raw aired?

Black or 444 is not her dad, her dad was shown at the beginning of ep 2, he is the grim reaper who sits in the backseat before the car crash

Ofc it's absolutely nothing wrong & only natural to expect marriage but the way she handle it just so wrong. They're on 7years relationship, at that point shouldn't they got close & comforted with eachother to talk about it, not sulking & hoping for him tp understand every hidden meaning of her words, her action really makes her lookslike a kid to me.

Woahh, ep 3 seal the deal for me, this is great. For example that insurance guy story was similiar to Siwon's character story on Revolutionary Love but imo Black did it better in building their story. I hate all this abusive act were shown on 15+ PG rate though, especially when the abusive ones came from a family.
Anyway, I'm getting warmed up to Black's character. I want to keep him but I still want Mo Gang back, now I love them both, ottokke?? I think I'm doomed TT