alot of pple disappointed in the way the kiss scenes were cut. why? dean and moth are nothing more than friends with benefits, this is a romance, what's the point of long lingering kiss scenes if the characters feel nothing for each other, wouldn't that come off as fanservice? it's honestly so sad seeing pple hate on this episode cause they didn't get longer NC scenes.. honestly is that all you watch dramas for? what about the story, the characterization and every other good thing that this drama is excelling at? reducing the actors worth to NC scenes is quiet sad
I've seen a lot of comments feeling sorry for dean and honestly I kinda felt bad for him too but he's not some victim. he CHOSE this life he's stuck in. like Est said we have to recognize that he's in the wrong too.
I love how dean is loyal to moth, it's so uncharacteristic of him to date one person exclusively, like he's not even talking to anyone else. he doesn't know it yet but that alone proves that he's serious about Moth
hope you don't mind AI, Cause I'm too busy to type so I asked deepseek;MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW. Based on the novel…
the copy I have cuts off before the translation Is complete but it's just a few pages that were left... I'd say in about 98% of the novel he doesn't find out
and hey if you want dean's back story too.. click the reply to THIS comment. SPOILERS
Dean’s backstory,---1.
The country boy in the photograph Dean was born in Ratchaburi, a rural province. He literally says: “I’m a country boy. I was born in the middle of the mud. I’m not from a rich family.” His parents were government workers, not wealthy or glamorous. His older sister, Duen, runs Rivulet Cafe in their hometown.
His family bought a house in Bangkok for when they had business there, but they rarely stayed. Over time, Dean treated it as his own space—but it was never completely his. His sister could show up anytime, and his parents could return whenever they needed to.
In an old family photo, Dean is a thin boy in a school uniform with thick-framed glasses. Quiet. Well-behaved. Utterly ordinary. That boy is the key to everything.---
2. The core wound: terror of being ordinaryDean isn’t afraid of being “bad.” He’s afraid of being boring.
The text says: “He was afraid that, deep down, he was nothing more than that ordinary and boring boy in the photograph.”
He looked at his old self and saw someone who would grow up to live a simple provincial life, work an ordinary job, return home on time, eat dinner with family, and let every day pass just like the one before. That terrified him.So he built a persona: the charming, loud, flirtatious, always-in-demand Dean. Owner of the EveryDean Live channel. Famous enough to have millions of followers. A regular at MANIAC Bar. The guy everyone notices. But it was all a performance—a way to drown out the silence inside him.---3.
The hookups and the lonelinessDean slept with a lot of people: He was open about it, never promising commitment, never letting anyone get too close. He never brought anyone to his bedroom. Moth is the first.He used sex, parties, and attention to feel wanted—but it never filled the emptiness. Even surrounded by friends at MANIAC Bar, he felt alone. When he saw Ohm and Boom become a real couple, he felt “a strange emptiness in his chest” and didn’t know what it meant.---
4. Family shame and hiding Dean hid his hometown and his sister’s cafe from Moth because he was ashamed of being ordinary. When Moth found out, Dean admitted:“I don’t know if anyone would care or even want to know.”His sister Duen called him out brutally. She said their mother didn’t have expectations—she just wanted “her son back—the one she had.” That line stayed with Dean because he knew he had buried that innocent country boy to survive. He avoided home. He avoided his family. He avoided anything that reminded him of who he used to be.---
Someone please spill Moths backstory from the novel I beg of you 😭🤲
hope you don't mind AI, Cause I'm too busy to type so I asked deepseek;
MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW.
Based on the novel translation, Moth’s backstory is the key to his entire personality. Here’s the full picture:---Who he is now:Moth is 24, a freelance artist/illustrator living alone in a Bangkok condo. He does commercial work—comics, mascots, logos, graphic design—but he used to be a serious painter. He’s tall, slender, fair-skinned, with dark eyes and a cold, sarcastic exterior. He pushes people away, hates birthdays, and has spent over ten years celebrating alone.
Childhood: He was a sickly child—always catching colds, fainting in the sun, allergic to rain. He grew up determined to overcome his weaknesses and became healthier, even athletic. But the feeling of being “weak” stayed with him.
Art college ; Mes (the core wound):Moth studied art in university. He was talented, painting contemporary/abstract work with raw emotion. That’s when he met Mes, a senior he deeply admired. Mes mentored him, praised his honesty, and told him he was “special.” Moth fell in love.
The Valentine’s Day rejection: Six years ago, Moth gathered the courage to give Mes a rose on Valentine’s Day. Mes coldly dismissed him: “I don’t really care about this kind of thing.” He didn’t take the rose, didn’t even turn to look at Moth properly, and left him standing there humiliated. The text says: “That was the day Moth stopped being the same person.”
Aftermath: Mes went abroad and started dating someone with an “incredible profile,” which made Moth feel even more inadequate. He stopped painting seriously, turned to commercial work to make a living, and built thick walls around his heart. He became cold, blunt, and pushed everyone away before they could reject him. He started hating Valentine’s Day and birthdays. He never let anyone into his condo or his bed.
Pan and the manipulation: His only close friend was Pan, who secretly loved him for years. Moth knew but didn’t confront him because he didn’t want to hurt him. Later, Moth used Dean to make Pan give up on him—a manipulative move that shows how broken and desperate he was to avoid emotional messes.
How Dean changes it: Dean becomes the first person Moth brings home, the first he sleeps beside, and the first he paints again. Moth eventually realizes the painting he made by the river was Dean, not Mes. His backstory is one of rejection, self-doubt, and walls—and his arc is learning to trust and let love in.
In short: Moth is a deeply wounded artist who was humiliated by his first love, convinced he wasn’t good enough, and spent years punishing himself by staying alone. Dean is the crazy person who finally breaks through.
exactly 💯. we dont mind it if a person doesn't like this show and voices that dislike out, that's okay, we all have different opinions on things, but the negative comments here come from a jealous insecure place rather than unbiased review of this dram. so if she can't stand it when we defend you maniac from toxic haters then yes, it's best she leaves.
and I think you should save yourself the mental trouble by finding pple that don't drag others down. go find them…
ahh see the thing is they use this word too. it might not be strong when I say it but is sure is when they themselves do. also who are you to make decisions about these pple when you are an irrelevant speck of dust? they don't even know who you are yet you stand so strongly against what THEY THEMSELVES have said. as if you know them personally or better than they know themselves. you are a ridiculous person and I hope you heal
The unfortunate thing about marketing a couple instead of a solo actor is how one party drags the other party…
and I think you should save yourself the mental trouble by finding pple that don't drag others down. go find them and watch their shows. cause I can tell you Est will never leave that boy so just save your time and leave.
You really need to chill. People are allowed to have an opinion other than yours. If you like them, great for…
you can't connect with William, it's great that you came to that conclusion so early on, now we won't ever see you in any williamest drama comment section. bye.
The country boy in the photograph
Dean was born in Ratchaburi, a rural province. He literally says: “I’m a country boy. I was born in the middle of the mud. I’m not from a rich family.” His parents were government workers, not wealthy or glamorous. His older sister, Duen, runs Rivulet Cafe in their hometown.
His family bought a house in Bangkok for when they had business there, but they rarely stayed. Over time, Dean treated it as his own space—but it was never completely his. His sister could show up anytime, and his parents could return whenever they needed to.
In an old family photo, Dean is a thin boy in a school uniform with thick-framed glasses. Quiet. Well-behaved. Utterly ordinary. That boy is the key to everything.---
2. The core wound: terror of being ordinaryDean isn’t afraid of being “bad.” He’s afraid of being boring.
The text says:
“He was afraid that, deep down, he was nothing more than that ordinary and boring boy in the photograph.”
He looked at his old self and saw someone who would grow up to live a simple provincial life, work an ordinary job, return home on time, eat dinner with family, and let every day pass just like the one before. That terrified him.So he built a persona: the charming, loud, flirtatious, always-in-demand Dean. Owner of the EveryDean Live channel. Famous enough to have millions of followers. A regular at MANIAC Bar. The guy everyone notices.
But it was all a performance—a way to drown out the silence inside him.---3.
The hookups and the lonelinessDean slept with a lot of people: He was open about it, never promising commitment, never letting anyone get too close.
He never brought anyone to his bedroom. Moth is the first.He used sex, parties, and attention to feel wanted—but it never filled the emptiness. Even surrounded by friends at MANIAC Bar, he felt alone. When he saw Ohm and Boom become a real couple, he felt “a strange emptiness in his chest” and didn’t know what it meant.---
4. Family shame and hiding
Dean hid his hometown and his sister’s cafe from Moth because he was ashamed of being ordinary. When Moth found out, Dean admitted:“I don’t know if anyone would care or even want to know.”His sister Duen called him out brutally. She said their mother didn’t have expectations—she just wanted “her son back—the one she had.” That line stayed with Dean because he knew he had buried that innocent country boy to survive.
He avoided home. He avoided his family. He avoided anything that reminded him of who he used to be.---
5. The hidden domestic side
MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW.
Based on the novel translation, Moth’s backstory is the key to his entire personality. Here’s the full picture:---Who he is now:Moth is 24, a freelance artist/illustrator living alone in a Bangkok condo. He does commercial work—comics, mascots, logos, graphic design—but he used to be a serious painter. He’s tall, slender, fair-skinned, with dark eyes and a cold, sarcastic exterior. He pushes people away, hates birthdays, and has spent over ten years celebrating alone.
Childhood:
He was a sickly child—always catching colds, fainting in the sun, allergic to rain. He grew up determined to overcome his weaknesses and became healthier, even athletic. But the feeling of being “weak” stayed with him.
Art college ;
Mes (the core wound):Moth studied art in university. He was talented, painting contemporary/abstract work with raw emotion. That’s when he met Mes, a senior he deeply admired. Mes mentored him, praised his honesty, and told him he was “special.” Moth fell in love.
The Valentine’s Day rejection:
Six years ago, Moth gathered the courage to give Mes a rose on Valentine’s Day. Mes coldly dismissed him: “I don’t really care about this kind of thing.” He didn’t take the rose, didn’t even turn to look at Moth properly, and left him standing there humiliated. The text says: “That was the day Moth stopped being the same person.”
Aftermath:
Mes went abroad and started dating someone with an “incredible profile,” which made Moth feel even more inadequate. He stopped painting seriously, turned to commercial work to make a living, and built thick walls around his heart. He became cold, blunt, and pushed everyone away before they could reject him. He started hating Valentine’s Day and birthdays. He never let anyone into his condo or his bed.
Pan and the manipulation:
His only close friend was Pan, who secretly loved him for years. Moth knew but didn’t confront him because he didn’t want to hurt him. Later, Moth used Dean to make Pan give up on him—a manipulative move that shows how broken and desperate he was to avoid emotional messes.
How Dean changes it:
Dean becomes the first person Moth brings home, the first he sleeps beside, and the first he paints again. Moth eventually realizes the painting he made by the river was Dean, not Mes. His backstory is one of rejection, self-doubt, and walls—and his arc is learning to trust and let love in.
In short: Moth is a deeply wounded artist who was humiliated by his first love, convinced he wasn’t good enough, and spent years punishing himself by staying alone. Dean is the crazy person who finally breaks through.