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If the Marilyn Monroe act we saw in Reb's room is 100% him, then why would he change into someone else when he's outside his door? 100% of one thing leaves 0% room for anything else.

I didn't talk about stereotypical 'masc' characters because I was talking about Reb, who is not one, and who DID do the drag queen act at the beginning of the series, a scene in which he played a stereotype.

No, I agree, the series did not make you sex-phobic, angry and bitter; you were already those things. This series just brought those qualities, along with you, out from under your rock.

U know wat? Go take some remedial English classes and learn how to write. Then perhaps we can have a conversation. lol "dis," "dat," "den," "ure," wtf is that supposed to be?

Seems you also found a mirror down there. Take a good look in it.

Your comment is about as perfect an example of the hysterical Social Justice Warrior in action as it could possibly be. You and your way of thinking is simple, old-fashioned Puritanical, sex-phobic, prudery, resentment, anger, bitterness and hatefulness all tied together and dressed up in new clothes for the 2020s. lol You're a tight-ass old church lady and don't even know it. lol

Social Justice Warrior Buzz-words in your comment (you left out a LOT of the favorites, but these three give you away):
ROMANTICIZED
TOXIC
PROBLEMATIC
Next time try to fit in more of the other stand-by's, OK?

Wow. What you said...much better than did I. I'm just happy to have inspired you to make this beautifully thought-out comment. Thanks so much.

Wow. What you said...much better than did I. I'm just happy to have inspired you to make this beautifully thought-out comment. Thanks so much.

Any idea where I can see it online?

Cannibalism? Healthcare? WTF? I'm in! lol Wow, I like the range of out-there roles I see our young actor taking.

We definitely part ways on this one. To me the script was written from a specific brand of Pinoy BL checklist, in which social issues, identities and gay-centric subject matter are required to be addressed with all the preachy subtlety of a gay pride parade's biggest drag queen float.

Specifically because just lately I went back to a BL I initially disliked and gave it another shot and found to my surprise that I liked it very much, I stuck with this one far longer than I otherwise would have, but 90 minutes of this pretentious, highly unlikely banter in an already-cliched setting is as far as I can go.

I am happy that you and many others are enjoying the show!

"Once a cheater, always a cheater."

Could you please tell me from where you gathered this sage conclusion? Did you do a meticulous survey of former cheaters to see what percentage repeated their offense? Did You look up some studies of the same online to see what they said? Have multiple people cheated on you while you were in relationship and you took them back and they cheated again and again? Or is this just some silly slogan you picked up in comments here and feel the need to repeat in an effort to support your view of people and the world in the broad range of colors known as black and white?

What "Edward" are you talking about?

Hey, thanks for the heads ups!

Just dropped my rating to 4.5. This show has become objectively terrible.

Jin has devolved into what, in my younger days, we would have called "a little bitch." He's cranky, rude, boring, sneaky, flirtatious but closeted, and as far as I can tell, has no ass. Why are all these gay dudes so enthralled with him? What a jerk, the way he had Bbomb give him a ride to the nightclub but doesn't invite him in. I don't find it believable that either Bbomb or the other cute guy would be interested; he's an uninteresting mess. He also seems to be an alcoholic. There is no in-between with this guy. He's either wasted and puking or completely sober.

Side-couples, dialogue among side-characters, pacing, script, acting, jesus, it's all terrible. Jack and Singh are cute and fun but they can't carry the show on their own. Nor can Sister and his side-kick Bam.

The whole thing with the gang drugging Bbomb with an aphrodisiac and planting a condom was just bizarre. I'm all for transgressive behavior, but that was out of left field and then...the drug seemed to have zero effect on Bbomb's horniness factor. I guess he told Jin not to move because he'd feel his boner, but that was it. Just lame writing and direction. Nothing seems to really go anywhere.

Oh, and "I have to pee, can I sleep in your room?" That is a new seduction line I've never heard. And why was Jeam teary-eyed on Ball's bed? Thinking about how he'd feel sitting in jail after he rapes Ball? Just all kinds of odd things that go nowhere. Whole show feels like it has no purpose, as if the makers are just filling time to fulfill a contract.

Maybe I'll downgrade that 4.5 rating I gave it.

To me, it got much, much better after I toned down my expectations and relaxed. There are moments that made me laugh out loud as well as tear up. Worth a shot...

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I just don't get it.

I used to have a mother-in-law who read those cheap, short, trashy romance novels they called "bodice-rippers." The plots were formulaic, repetitive and predictable. She said that's what she liked about them She said she didn't have to THINK while she read them. I thought "how do you read a novel and not THINK? Isn't spurring your brain to think the whole purpose of art and entertainment?" Doesn't your brain form pictures and images as you read?

Not sure what you mean by "romance dramas," but there are thousands of dramas out there in which romance is a primary plot point that do NOT merely repeat in sequence the plot points of other romantic dramas. Why not just watch the same series over and over and over again?

I'm curious as to why the totality of the trope/cliche/fluff/predictable writing and plot don't annoy you at least a little bit. Do you not get tired of seeing basically the same BL story over and over and over again?

I haven't read through the comments yet, and I'm a late-comer to this series, but as someone who is now invested in it, I STILL am annoyed at the utter lack of originality, the total predictability of every step of the plot, the trope after trope after trope, each matched with two or three cliches, that drag this show down. I don't know why people would be "angry" about that, and perhaps the complaints are completely different from mine, but I'm just stumped by lazy-ass writing like this.

I actually dropped this one part-way through the second episode a few weeks ago. It struck me as utter Disney-fied fluff, totally by-the-numbers plot, complete with numerous trip-catch-stare tricks and all the other tropes and cliches from the very start, and those BLs annoy the hell out of me. The sets are all over-lit, it has the vibe of a cheap American sit-com, etc. But an MDL friend whose opinion I value kept insisting it was a good show despite all of the above, so I gave it another shot and ended up binge-watching through episode 7.

The show really is all of the above to me, but the leads have great chemistry, the supporting cast is funny and engaging and here I am now giving a shit what happens with these people. Aaron Lai is unbelievably beautiful/handsome in an unusual, very striking way, but he's also a fine actor. I had seen him play a loathsome gay lead character in a feature film; I think the effectiveness of his portrayal there stuck with me and I was still mad at him from that movie. lol But it is Hank Wang who has endeared himself to me. I want to take care of him. haha. Despite the continuing, paint-by-the-numbers plot, somehow these two have me buying into their developing relationship. Wang's character's slow realization that he is falling in love with a man actually feels authentic to me.

The few moments during which Lai woke up to find Wang sleeping on his arm and Lai's hand on his chest, after which he startled a bit but then just lay and gazed, blinking, at Wang's sleeping angel face, was a real beauty of an instantly classic BL moment. Visually stunning, emotionally tender...I teared up just looking at them.

The workshop student/worker and the coffee shop owner side-couple are spectacular in their sweet, shy/bold flirting, pouting, verbally sparring a few times, all leading up to that gorgeous first kiss at their apartment relationship development. Another quietly thrilling moment; I just sat here and smiled like a crazy person, gawking at the computer screen, which is as it should be. It is BL moments like those that are slowly healing this way-too-long-in-the-closet, damaged-little-gay-kid heart of mine. I feel, that through BL characters like these, I'm experiencing situations I never allowed myself to have as a young man. These portrayals and stories, when done even partly well, are profoundly moving to me.

So now...I'm all in with this series. It continues to baffle me why so many BL writers don't even TRY to be original in their story-telling, but this is one of those cases where I choose to just accept the negatives for the sake of the overwhelming positives. It is still disconcerting to find myself writing the script in my head as we go and watching what I anticipated unfold on the screen. lol