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Some weirdo's idea of censorship, I guess. What was being said is too explicit for our delicate eyes to understand in English. :)

btw, did you really say there are only two kinds of tragic endings - someone dies or someone wishes they were dead? There are no other types of tragedy or tragic endings?

You don't have to be civil on my account. I don't care if you're not. You STILL don't specify when it was that Tharn "raped" Type when he was intoxicated. Was this the hickey incident? Some other incident? If they were BOTH intoxicated then who was the rapist and who was the rapee? How would we know? How would THEY know? Why are you evading my question?

You, with your preachy talk of morals, sound like an old-fashioned church lady. How progressive of you. It's clear you are into the latest fads involving sexuality and emotional perspective..."ace-phobic." Give me a break. You are sex-phobic. And since THE VAST MAJORITY of people have and enjoy sex, that means you are most people-phobic! What in tarnation? Sir/maam, explain yourself! lol

Wow, one meets some real characters on BL boards.

You express yourself beautifully. I always enjoy reading you.

They stood on the beach and talked in a very mature manner about that fact that NO relationship is "unshakeable," and thus they dedicated themselves to being on the watch for problems and dealing with them as they arise. That sounds more solid a foundation on which to build than 90% of relationships I know of. "Fan service." Please.

I'm sorry you're dealing with heavy shit. But I certainly hope you are seeing a qualified therapist about it. There is no logical reason on Earth why you should be depressed for six years because of something one of your parents did. That is entirely self-destructive and unnecessary. Seriously, are you being counseled about this? The idea that your entire childhood was "destroyed" because a parent cheated is...first of all, really an unhealthy perspective and secondly, likely not at all true. For some reason you BELIEVE these things, but it does not mean they are fact. Do you think it's normal for the children of people who have affairs to feel as you do? If so, there are multi-millions of them out there. You are not alone.

So you think people who cheat are all entirely "bad" people with no other positive qualities whatsoever, and you put people who have extramarital affairs on the same level with serial killers. Got it. What victims? Of what? What the hell are you talking about? Oh and then you toss out that you are an asexual who is repulsed by sex and doesn't form emotional attachments. WTF? Why are you watching BLs? What possible connection can you feel toward them? They are about emotions and sexual feelings.

Cheating isn't "vile." It's human behavior and it's not a good thing, but you feel the need to label these behaviors and people who slip up as horrible, beyond redemption and forgiveness and that is YOUR problem, not mine. If you've really been depressed for six years I hope you are being treated for it. I know all about depression. I take meds and see a therapist regularly, but I try not to blame my depression on mistakes other people made that I am torturing myself about. That's some major self-destructive shit there.

STOP WATCHING BLs. Many of them involve challenging and intense sexual plot lines that it is clearly not a good idea for you to see. There are plenty of other types of fictional material out there for your entertainment where you won't encounter all this stuff you claim "triggers" you. Unless of course you...like being triggered and then bitching about it.

Their relationship was not "obliterated," at least not in the actual story. It may have been so in your head but that's your problem, not the show's. Why is cheating a "cheap plot device?" What plot device would NOT be "cheap?" There is NO plot device that hasn't been used a million times before. It is HOW it is used that makes the story containing it new and original, and IPYTM used "cheating" in a way I've never seen before. First of all, the "cheating" was involved emotions and tongues and lips. Nobody got f**ked.

TT is one of the BEST BLs there is. "Gross." lol How old are you? 12? Your use of the SJW term "toxic" is a dead give-away as to where you're coming from on all this. Your problem is with sex in general, not rape or assault, just sex in any form. You're uneasy with it; it makes you feel uncomfortable. It's messy sometimes and not easily put into neat categories. So you FORCE it into neat categories to make yourself feel more comfortable.

Naturally, you toss out the accusation that Tharn "raped" Type but of course you don't specify when this "rape" took place. Was it when Type let Tharn give him a blow job in the shower? Or was it when Tharn gave Type hickies on his neck while he was asleep to get revenge? My god, if you think hickey-giving is "rape," you are truly a humorless person.

Newsflash: Forgiveness and redemption is granted to people who have been unfaithful thousands of times every single day. Not everyone is as stone-cold unforgiving and resentful as you seem to be. You also contradict yourself a couple of times in your comment, but I'll leave it to you to figure that out. Try reviewing what you've written before posting.

There are a lot of dramatic BLs.

I actually DO believe that even if Jai had said yes to Teh, that it wouldn't have been long before Teh began to realize "the one" is and always was Oh. He would find himself thinking of Oh, missing Oh, wanting to talk to Oh, all of it. And he would begin to realize how much of a user and manipulator Jai was. I don't think any of that is hard to believe.

When did I say LBC or LOTL were garbage? Oh. that's right: I didn't say that.

There are many BLs I adore. Don't know why you think that because I don't care for the two SOTUS things, that I don't like BLs or something. They're pretty much my life. lol

Yeah, I really loathe SOTUS and SOTUS S, even though they are the first two BLs I watched. I didn't know any better at the time, but even so, the mannequin/fake kissing and sexless, Disney-fied atmosphere of the whole thing put me off. Then I started to watch grittier, more realistic BLs and movies and I came to believe SOTUS was just that, garbage. I know lots of people love both of those shows and that's fine. I'm in a minority here and I can live with that.

Oh reading those messages, and I don't think he ever had before because he feared if he did read them that he would cave and take Teh back, was such an emotional scene; Oh seeing that Teh had accepted and admitted his fault in the Jai situation was integral to them reconciling.

Is there a reason why Teh's character development had to be "complete" by the end of this series? What makes you think Oh is through growing and changing? Their entire beach conversation was about how people change and become different over time, and they made a pact with each other to work on growing and changing TOGETHER. It was beautiful.

Your idea of love is a fairy tale fantasy. IPYTM was about young lovers maturing and growing and dealing with harsh shit that goes down in real life. And after all of that, STILL loving each other. Nothing is more beautiful than that.

Why and in what way is emotional or physical cheating or both in a relationship a "cheap" storyline? There is NO story line that has not already been told a hundred thousand times before. It is HOW you tell the story that makes for original art. Your alternate story line sounds entirely boring as hell.

Why? How? In what way?

There are a shitload of BLs out there with tragic endings. Google it. I don't know who started this meme that BLs always have happy endings. Whoever it is is LYING.

Man, I saw passionate love all over their faces and in the tears running out of their eyes during that beach scene near the end. The other scene you mention in ITSAY was oozing sexual passion as well as emotional. Here i think it was a much more mature, experienced passion emanating from their hearts, not their dicks. I do wish both series would have included more instances of sexual passion between them.

Great comment. I agree. I think Teh is realizing he isn't willing to give up everything else just to be an actor. It does not fulfill him by itself. That's why I love that he shared the "I do!" pic on social media immediately. He doesn't give a shit what that does to his acting career because he now understands what is MOST important is loving and being loved, and realizing you can fulfill your creative impulses in other directions than strictly becoming a professional actor.