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I'm not here to make buddies, especially with censorship apologists such as yourself. You have yet to point out where I said those voices, all .32% of them, "don't matter." They do matter, to the degree that the opinion of .32% of any group should matter, which is almost not at all. One-third of one percent and you're all up in arms on behalf of their magical ability to control and censor what the rest of the population gets to see and hear. Where is your ardor on behalf of the freedom of the other 99.7% to see and hear entertainment/art in an environment that fosters creative thinking and unrestricted art-making? Something's off there and it's not me.

Do you care what Holocaust-deniers think? Do you care what the Flat-Earth society thinks? Do you care what The Church of Satan thinks? Do you care what neo-Nazis think? Do you care what racists and white supremacists think? If you do, that's indicative of a twisted perspective. I don't need to hear from a few thousand hysterical censorship-enablers on the Internet think about this Korean drama to know that it's the same old bullshit these type of people have always spewed. They don't get any of my time.

How do I get this through to you?: I DO NOT care what those people think, and that is my right. Nor do I think they should be receiving the attention they are getting. THEY ARE A TINY MINORITY. Horrible, censorious groups and governments throughout history have done what they are trying to do and I have zero respect for it. I get it: you're on the side of religious fanatics, historical purists, blue-noses, and general assholes who want to shut down free expression and creativity. I am NOT on their side and I DO NOT CARE what they think.

Lazy writing. ALL of a sudden, he has depression or whatever and feels nothing for anybody! I wondered, "is he just making this up as an excuse to give Aspergers the heave-ho with a reason he will actually accept?" Either way it was just another major plot point tossed in hap-hazardly; no indication of this disorder last season or this. And then! More magic: The disorder disappeared after Asperger's touching speech on the stairs in front of the restaurant...which would not have touched him if he really had this disorder he claimed to have. Yikes.

I agree with a commenter on this thread who asked what the hell happened? Did the writers just give up this season and the director just said "oh what the hell, let's just film this POS and get it in th can?"

I don't know and right now I'm too lazy to google it. I believe "affective" is the word the character used in describing himself, as indicated by the subtitles, which could of course be wrong.

"but that is no excuse to say harsh and insulting things towards others." You've got a hell of a nerve.

You are correct about the percentages. My bad. I confess. Now, the correct percentage is around .3 as you said. So not even ONE whole person out of a hundred in South Korea cared enough about censoring what everyone else gets to watch to bother to sign a petition online. Yet "Exorcist" was cancelled and this new show is threatened. Something is very wrong here.

It's revolting that anyone would argue in favor of censorship under any circumstances, but especially so when, practically speaking, no one in the population wants the censorship to take place. It's great that you have no problem with South Korea's cultural tyranny of the minority, but yeah, I have a BIG problem with it. I never have liked panty-sniffers and tiny special-interest groups telling me what I can and cannot expose myself to culturally and artistically.

I said there is a lot more to the cancellations and threats than we know because I wasn't born yesterday. When about .32% of your population gets a show cancelled for the other 99.7% or whatever it is, something is off-kilter. Strings are being pulled by powerful people. Believe what you want, I don't care, but this is what I believe (and my calculations, based on the numbers in the article above, were not incorrect).

And I never said "petition signers voices should not count." (It's clear you are one of those commenters who keeps trying to put words in the mouths of others that were never uttered.) But their voices should count for no more than the .32% of the population they comprise. A healthy culture is not dictated to and censored by .32% of the population who have their panties in a wad about this or that. Such a situation is known as "the tyranny of the minority." There is nothing thoughtful or complex about arguing that .32% of a given population should be determining what everyone else gets to see, hear, read, whatever.

Yeah, I agree with you on that point. We also already know who his texting partner is even though he doesn't. So we already know where we're going, the only question is how we get there, I guess?

OK...but when Pi talks with him in the "dark," he turns and looks right at his face from inches away and it's not pitch-black, it's just deeply shadowed. Anyone in his position would know who it is. My point, I suppose, is that the show is not doing a good job of projecting the idea, in those stylized scenes, that Pi doesn't know who he is because he is being directed to look right AT Mork. My other point is that the viewer knows it is Mork so why only show his face in part or in shadow? It seems like a silly gimmick that serves no purpose. If we see Mork's face we're not going to be in any LESS suspense as to the eventual reveal.

Out of 51,000,000 people, 109,000 have signed an online petition to cancel this show. That number is directly quoted from the article above. READ. How much more what? What are you talking about? An example of what? Too many of what for me to recall? If you reply, work on your writing skills.

The size of a group's influence and voice in a properly-functioning democracy and societey is proportional to the group's SIZE. This group is TINY. Yes, I could care less what less than .22% (your North Korean-made calculator is malfunctioning) of the Korean population says about much of anything. Are you seriously arguing that this teeny-tiny minority's voice is not being heard? In light of "Exorcist's" cancellation, it's obvious you are incorrect.

I get that you're being a smart-ass and that's ok. But if everyone "knows who it is" why bother to conceal his identity with lighting and camera angles at all? Played in other ways, there is no reason the viewer would have to necessarily know who the text-buddy is. As presented here, we know who it is but the staging choices pretend we don't, which seems odd.

Most people are not completely "awful" and worthy of hatred or "perfect" and worthy of glory. Most of us fall somewhere in the middle. There are a lot of reasons Pi is the way he is, chief among them incessant bullying as was made clear from the beginning of this episode. I was terribly insecure as an adolescent and disguised it as an air of arrogant remove. That air went a long way toward protecting me.

I'm curious as to why you feel so strongly toward Pi as to say you "hate" him. You see absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever? "...awful little worm..." lol Does Pi remind you of someone you loathed in high school? :)

I agree that Mix looks more handsome. Maybe as he's matured his face is catching up with his nose.

Terrible script, story line. Nothing happening for long periods of time, filler scenes by the dozen.

Boom/Tee is awesome, the cutest BL actor ever. He has a wonderful, centered presence and seems like a very decent, kind person. Whether that's the actor's natural personae bleeding though or great acting or both, I have no idea.

Three highlights:
Fuse aggressively backs Tee against the wall at school and ALMOST confesses.
For two or three eps., Fuse aggressively courts Tee, as he should have done much earlier.
At the beach, during the King Game scene, Fuse beautifully and tearfully confesses to Tee in front of all of their friends, also as he should have done much earlier. This was Peak's best acting, of either season.

I do not like at all that in the end the reason Fuse finally dumped Jean was over her cheating and not because he loved Tee, which he clearly did. Tee deserved much better than that and I wish the show had given it to him. ALTHOUGH, during the emotional confession on the beach, Fuse cops to all of this along with his selfishness and disrespect of Tee's goodness, so I guess we're even. :D

What the hell nightmare authoritarian, censorious country do you live in? Regarding "Exorcist," fewer than .0042% of the Korean population complained about the show but it was cancelled nevertheless. What in the world is wrong with Korea? Why do 99% of the people allow their choices in art and entertainment to be dictated by organized hordes of psycho-losers on the Internet? There is a LOT more to these cancellations and threats of same than we know.

In a country of 51 million people, who cares what 109,000 censorious idiots on the Internet think about anything? That is .0021% of the people who are bitching and moaning about a show they haven't even seen. Lots of production money is going to start going from Korea to other countries not run by hysterical Puritans on the Internet.

My god, South Korea is becoming the censorship capital of the world! wtf? In a country of 51 million people, who gives a shit what 109,000 psycho Internet trolls think? Wow, after the horrible fate of "Exorcist," which again, was cancelled after a petition that only now is clearing 200,000 out of FIFTY-ONE FREAKING MILLION people! This is insane and I hope it stops before production companies begin to take their money and projects elsewhere.

When it comes to censorship, South Korea seems to be becoming the new North Korea.

Why? Why wouldn't you cast whoever is the best choice, regardless of age, assuming they fit the part physically?

I don't think the director is actually trying to keep it a mystery, do you? Seems odd to me that in the darkly-lit texting scenes Pi looks at the other person when he speaks, which would indicate to me, in keeping with the abstract world of that scene, that he knows who it is.

Perhaps that is the lesson he is going to learn.

I see no problem with becoming the best version of yourself that you choose to be. Some people miss out on opportunities, personal and professional, because the way they present themselves to the world makes a poor impression. The problem comes, as it does with most things, when you take that principle to an extreme with drastic, unhealthy weight changes, plastic surgery or taking on a look that you don't care for yourself.

A lot of people don't realize how others perceive them. The way they present to others may not be in line with who they are inside.

"unproblematic..." lol Where did you find "body shaming" in this episode? There were two large students on stage at the beginning in the middle of a "confession ceremony."